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Old 29-11-2004, 18:46
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Originally Posted by Histeria
He uses a lead patch only, and switches between that and "off". The few parts he does play (and they VERY are few), he plays live. Hence the fact that his guitar parts differed between the renditions of Living One a Prayer (there was a harmonic squeal in the second that wasn't in the first, and he also used the mic as a slide on the second). I've been playing in live bands for ten years - it's easy to spot what's live and what isn't. Most of the guitars aren't him - but the occasional lead breaks are, and are live. Why there was a lead hanging out of the transmitter pack on his strap is beyond me - but shouldn't affect anything.
Thanks for clearing that up. I thought he laid down the backing track and then it's completely obvious which bits are live on the night. Some people don't seem to be able to differentiate. He could play the whole thing live - as evidenced by the person who has seen him in Petronella - but how the show is presented I would think is an area controlled by the programme's producers.
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:24
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[quote=stillrockin]He could play the whole thing live - as evidenced by the person who has seen him in Petronella[quote]

If he could really play well then he would play the whole way through. It would be easy for him. He doesn't play the whole way through. I doubt if he can barely play at all.
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:28
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Originally Posted by stillrockin
Thanks for clearing that up. I thought he laid down the backing track and then it's completely obvious which bits are live on the night. Some people don't seem to be able to differentiate. He could play the whole thing live - as evidenced by the person who has seen him in Petronella - but how the show is presented I would think is an area controlled by the programme's producers.
If that were the case, How did Peter from 2 to go manage to play a keyboard and sax live?

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Old 30-11-2004, 10:29
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[quote=Sky God][quote=stillrockin]He could play the whole thing live - as evidenced by the person who has seen him in Petronella

If he could really play well then he would play the whole way through. It would be easy for him. He doesn't play the whole way through. I doubt if he can barely play at all.
Not a Tabby fan then eh?
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:52
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Originally Posted by Sky God
If he could really play well then he would play the whole way through. It would be easy for him. He doesn't play the whole way through. I doubt if he can barely play at all.
From what I've seen, he seems to a be a damn fine lead guitarist. However, not all good lead guitarists make good rhythm guitarists - Tabby has only ever played the lead parts live. That's not to sell short his playing (I'm only going on what he's played live on TV), but this show is about selling the skills you have - and Tabby's skill seems to be for lead breaks/solos.

If that were the case, How did Peter from 2 to go manage to play a keyboard and sax live?
Different kettle of fish. Tabby would have had to use at least three patches to play all the parts. "Silent switching" between the sounds (Rhythm, lead, boost and possibly clean) never actually is, so there would have been an audible 'clunk' when changing between sounds, and pedal board at his feet. Seems like they went for the simple option where he plays the most impressive (i.e. lead) parts only.
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Histeria
From what I've seen, he seems to a be a damn fine lead guitarist. However, not all good lead guitarists make good rhythm guitarists - Tabby has only ever played the lead parts live. That's not to sell short his playing (I'm only going on what he's played live on TV), but this show is about selling the skills you have - and Tabby's skill seems to be for lead breaks/solos.



Different kettle of fish. Tabby would have had to use at least three patches to play all the parts. "Silent switching" between the sounds (Rhythm, lead, boost and possibly clean) never actually is, so there would have been an audible 'clunk' when changing between sounds, and pedal board at his feet. Seems like they went for the simple option where he plays the most impressive (i.e. lead) parts only.
OK fair enough.

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Old 30-11-2004, 11:12
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He does play the guitar. It is a digital thing. He said that 2 weeks ago.
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Old 30-11-2004, 11:12
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He does you nutter! He even said it himself, why would he lie. Hot boys dont lie.
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Old 30-11-2004, 11:16
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Trevor (aka Scabby) will be outraged to read some of the things on here about his inability to play his guitar.
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Old 30-11-2004, 11:18
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Originally Posted by seaviewuk99
Trevor (aka Scabby) will be outraged to read some of the things on here about his inability to play his guitar.
Nah...the Tabster knows he can play...when he sees what's been said about him, he'll have a good laugh

I hope!

[Now there, that wasn't a 'swoop', was it?]
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Old 30-11-2004, 11:55
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Just because you are jealous does not give you the right to bear false witness.

Of course Tabby CAN play. Only someone in denial or an idiot would say otherwise.

As for leads - guitars have not required leads for over 10 years - what century do you live in. Should he put a lead in just to please all of you jealous people.
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Old 30-11-2004, 11:59
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JOf course Tabby CAN play. Only someone in denial or an idiot would say otherwise.
Let him prove it then ... by actually doing it!!

He may of played the guitar on the soundtrack (as stated on ITV2) - but there is no proof ... what the audience at home see is a guy hiding behind a guitar that he strums once in a while
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Old 30-11-2004, 12:05
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Originally Posted by tomorrow
Let him prove it then ... by actually doing it!!

He may of played the guitar on the soundtrack (as stated on ITV2) - but there is no proof ... what the audience at home see is a guy hiding behind a guitar that he strums once in a while
Please look up a bit and read my posts - as a musician I'm 100% sure he plays some of the guitar parts live. You can't "prove" it any more than you can "prove" they're not all miming their vocals every week - but a little bit of common sense has to be brought into play here.
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Old 30-11-2004, 12:08
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A lot of the guitar playing this week was faked - most of the time he did not even bother to try and fake it - especially with the 2nd song.

He should either play or not .... not just strum an occasional note

Better still ... leave the guitar off stage.
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Old 30-11-2004, 12:16
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Originally Posted by tomorrow
A lot of the guitar playing this week was faked - most of the time he did not even bother to try and fake it - especially with the 2nd song.

He should either play or not .... not just strum an occasional note

Better still ... leave the guitar off stage.
I'm perfectly aware of which parts he did and didn't play.

For the love of god please read what people have posted.

*sigh*

To quote myself:

He uses a lead patch only, and switches between that and "off". The few parts he does play (and they are VERY few), he plays live. Hence the fact that his guitar parts differed between the renditions of Living One a Prayer (there was a harmonic squeal in the second that wasn't in the first, and he also used the mic as a slide on the second). I've been playing in live bands for ten years - it's easy to spot what's live and what isn't. Most of the guitars aren't him - but the occasional lead breaks are, and are live.
There's more, and in more detail if you read through the last few pages. I don't mean to be sharp with you, but please take the time to do so.
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Old 30-11-2004, 12:20
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Originally Posted by Histeria
I'm perfectly aware of which parts he did and didn't play.

For the love of god please read what people have posted.
You do realise that the people who post and read any of this whole forum are in the minority of the population who watch this show?

I am pointing it out as a home viewer .... I have not said he cannot actually play the guitar, only have stated how people viewing at home are seeing this .... not all people even watch ITV2 - I only watched a few mins of it myself for the first time last Saturday.

Most people at home do not know nor care about the technicalities ..... its just the overall impression of fakeness that Tabby is showing. He was not in the bottom 2 for nothing ....
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Old 30-11-2004, 13:29
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Originally Posted by tomorrow
Most people at home do not know nor care about the technicalities ..... its just the overall impression of fakeness that Tabby is showing. He was not in the bottom 2 for nothing ....
I think, actually, the majority of the population don't care anyway. They broadly think "did I enjoy that performance?" and vote accordingly. Personally, I though his version of "Living on a Prayer" was a bit rubbish (his worst performance so far), and it's things like that which nearly buried him two weeks running. Personally the voting has confused me most of the way through. I can seen nothing appealing about Steve - especially the second song he did this week, and yet he was safe. Rowetta seemed the performer of the week this week (which for me she hasn't been before) and yet she went.

Most people don't pick up on which parts Tabby does and doesn't play live (there's a mix) and couldn't care anyway. But in a discussion of his live playing (and so by your own token "fakeness") I felt it should be pointed out what is almost certainly going on with his guitaring.
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Old 30-11-2004, 14:41
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Originally Posted by Histeria
I think, actually, the majority of the population don't care anyway. They broadly think "did I enjoy that performance?" and vote accordingly. Personally, I though his version of "Living on a Prayer" was a bit rubbish (his worst performance so far), and it's things like that which nearly buried him two weeks running. Personally the voting has confused me most of the way through. I can seen nothing appealing about Steve - especially the second song he did this week, and yet he was safe. Rowetta seemed the performer of the week this week (which for me she hasn't been before) and yet she went.

Most people don't pick up on which parts Tabby does and doesn't play live (there's a mix) and couldn't care anyway. But in a discussion of his live playing (and so by your own token "fakeness") I felt it should be pointed out what is almost certainly going on with his guitaring.
Thank you very much for your previous explanatory posts. I'm not a musician but any idiot should be able to distinguish between the backing track and the parts he is playing live - apparently from reading this thread they are completely inept at doing so!! It would seem that even your opinion as a musician is called in question by lesser individuals who have never picked up a guitar in their life. He's got 2/3 minutes to give us a snapshot of what you might get at a live gig. I've never seen anybody playing a lead guitar solo and trying to sing at the same time apparently that is what people are expecting him to do.
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Old 30-11-2004, 14:45
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Histeria, these people don't listen. everyweek they say the same things, its getting boring. Tabby is in the last 3 and they are now running out of ideas to try and stop people voting for him.

thanks for clearing up the mess, i have tried to explain it for weeks but i didn't have the correct terminology as i don't play the guitar, but i listen to a lot of live music and can tell when it is live or not. those people who are certain he never plays live, obviously don't listen to a lot of live music, they are probably big backstreet boys fans.
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Old 30-11-2004, 15:10
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Histeria, these people don't listen. everyweek they say the same things, its getting boring. Tabby is in the last 3 and they are now running out of ideas to try and stop people voting for him.

thanks for clearing up the mess, i have tried to explain it for weeks but i didn't have the correct terminology as i don't play the guitar, but i listen to a lot of live music and can tell when it is live or not. those people who are certain he never plays live, obviously don't listen to a lot of live music, they are probably big backstreet boys fans.
You wait, we'll get it again this week if he stays in - can't seem to accept he can do something else as well as perform and sing. The whole forum is bogged down with the various technicalities of vocal ability etc. and can't seem to grasp you might have to put something else on the table as well.
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Old 30-11-2004, 23:08
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Originally Posted by newcrest
Just because you are jealous does not give you the right to bear false witness.

Of course Tabby CAN play. Only someone in denial or an idiot would say otherwise.

As for leads - guitars have not required leads for over 10 years - what century do you live in. Should he put a lead in just to please all of you jealous people.
Please treat other forum members with respect, even when you don't agree with their comments.

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Old 01-12-2004, 23:13
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Some of this thread has really made me smile, I don't think the voting public really gives a stuff if he plays live or not, I am not the greatest Tabby fan, I like him but my daughter loves him to bits she is 13 and really impressed with the guitar!!! she doesn't give a hoot if he is playing or not. What Tabby does have though is showmanship, if that involves a guitar so be it!
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Old 01-12-2004, 23:19
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Originally Posted by alliebombay
Some of this thread has really made me smile, I don't think the voting public really gives a stuff if he plays live or not, I am not the greatest Tabby fan, I like him but my daughter loves him to bits she is 13 and really impressed with the guitar!!! she doesn't give a hoot if he is playing or not. What Tabby does have though is showmanship, if that involves a guitar so be it!
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I congratulate your daughter on her very good taste at such an early age
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Old 01-12-2004, 23:33
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Maybe it is indeed the early teenies that are Tabby's real audience.

Young girls obviously like him and as you say, love the guitar for what it is regardless of whether its being played or not.
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Old 01-12-2004, 23:40
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Tabby plays the guitar the same as any other rock stars do when they play live! you dont see jon bon jovi playing his guitar all the way through when he sings live! An before anyone picks up on the 'rock star' thing, im not trying to say he already is one, but he's doing a great job up to now!
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