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Tabby Doesn't Play The Guitar!
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T--J
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by jadehater:
“Yes i do, very well in fact. I taught Eric Claptrap all he knows. And Jimmy Pageboy still sends me Xmas cards as a thank you for giving him some pointers in the 1970s.
Oh and I also play amean tune on a brass monkey now and again, it loves the attention.”

Yes, I thought so probably just like everyone else who says he can't play.
whoa182
05-12-2004
Tabby been playing guitar for 10+ years. What you talking about HAHA

Hes been in a band for years, Im sure hes fully capable of playing very good guitar. Also I play guitar, only for 5 years, it really does seem like hes playing the SOLO's , Sweet child o mine wasnt Slash's solo the other week, it was tabbys and I was so sure that he plays all of his fills and solos live.
tomorrow
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by fannianni:
“You know what?

I think some of the singing was mimed tonight.Did I just imagine that or did anyone else notice? ”




Well, he was reputed to have been tired earlier in the week as he had been in the recording studio.

You decide ....
tomorrow
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by whoa182:
“Tabby been playing guitar for 10 years. What you talking about HAHA”

There is playing the guitar .... and playing the guitar

many levels of doing the same thing ......
T--J
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by tomorrow:
“What would have been proof to everyone, is that bit in the middle where guitar is played and no singing ..... the camera should have let us viewers seen that close up.....”

Eeeeerrrrm, we did see it.

Quote:
“... I don't think anybody is disputing that he can play some guitar, but probably not that good .....”

You have the opinion of two guitarists here saying that his playing tonight, convinced them that he plays well and still you choose to keep with the opinions of the non-guitarists - says it all really.
tomorrow
05-12-2004
Anyone can say anything (within the T&Cs) ....its a forum.

Do you believe everything you read on a forum?

And I disagree ..... the camera angle was more behind than close up .....
jadehater
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by T--J:
“Yes, I thought so probably just like everyone else who says he can't play. ”

Firstly I have never said he can't play so where you comming from with that one mister man.
And secondly I think you are insinuating that i don't play guitar. Well I do and very well. I also play piano extremley well, I have done sessions with many well known bands doing both over the years. My point is so what, he SHOULD be able to play . He is offering himself as a musician, a rock musician at that. So it should be no great shakes that he does play, but merely accepted. The last thing a real musician has to prove is that he can play, it should be taken as read. It is the level of excellence and technique that should be discussed and analysed. I mean great headline in NME "Rock Guitarist Actually Plays His Own Guitar!!" If i were Tabby I would be slightly ashamed that this is being discussed and probably think that with highndsigh it would have been better to leave the Git in the dressing room and stand as a rock singer and use the instrument as a back up weapon later on.
Saying all that he has truly put paid to the expression "less is more".
whoa182
05-12-2004
I play guitar and I SAY HE WAS PLAYING GUITAR LIVE ! on the SOlO"S
wicker.man
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by jadehater:
“Ermm big Ermm. Point here, you over there in the corner not looking at point. What i am saying is that it is EXPECTED of a person in any trade to be able to apply that trade. So it should not be an issue that it is a great thing that he does play the guitar. So what, a taxi driver drives a car, an accountant does your books an actor acts. So what is so impressive about a musician playing a musical instrument. You should find no satisfaction with your argument to simply say he does play, he is expected to play. So if people belive he is miming and all you can say is well no he plays a bit, your argument has failed. You should simply ignore those people and laugh quietly in the corner at their ignorance. I don't give a hoot if he plays it or not, it is a game show that is trying to produce a cabaret act. So if he came out riding an emu and playing a small dog like a piano I would be like, yeah cool it's TV and it is 1970's variety.
and boy you really like quoting don't you.”

If that's your point of view, why are you bothering to contribute to this thread?


Originally Posted by jadehater:
“and boy you really like quoting don't you.”

yeah
T--J
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by tomorrow:
“Anyone can say anything (within the T&Cs) ....its a forum......”

No-one's disputed that.

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“Do you believe everything you read on a forum?...”

Oh dear, you obviously haven't kept up with this thread because I was one of the people to post about a guitarist's opinions because they were that of my husband.

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“And I disagree ..... the camera angle was more behind than close up .....”

If it was from behind, it's funny how I noticed the way his fingers were strumming at the strings. And we clearly saw him doing the slide up the neck.
T--J
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by jadehater:
“Firstly I have never said he can't play so where you comming from with that one mister man.”

Two points on this. I didn't say you did - I simply compared your perceptions of Tabby with those of people who cannot play guitar. And secondly, if you'd read my post properly, you'd know that I was a woman, not 'mister man'.

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“And secondly I think you are insinuating that i don't play guitar. Well I do and very well. ....”

Well, that's hardly a surprising impression to be left with, given the sarcastic reply I received.

Quote:
“My point is so what, he SHOULD be able to play . He is offering himself as a musician, a rock musician at that. So it should be no great shakes that he does play, but merely accepted. The last thing a real musician has to prove is that he can play, it should be taken as read. It is the level of excellence and technique that should be discussed and analysed. I mean great headline in NME "Rock Guitarist Actually Plays His Own Guitar!!" If i were Tabby I would be slightly ashamed that this is being discussed and probably think that with highndsigh it would have been better to leave the Git in the dressing room and stand as a rock singer and use the instrument as a back up weapon later on.
Saying all that he has truly put paid to the expression "less is more".”

You seem to be misinterpreting some of the posts here. Many of us are simply discrediting the 'he can't play' posts as opposed to standing on a soap box shouting 'look, Tabby can play guitar, isn't he good?'.

Regarding him not using the guitar on stage, I rather think he probably didn't have much say on the matter. Which no doubt leads on to thoughts of him selling himself down the river to appear on a show such as this. Well, I guess he'll find that out in the coming months if appearing on this show has ruined his credibilty in his natural genre of music. It seems it was a risk he was willing to take, personally, I hope it works for him.
Last edited by T--J : 05-12-2004 at 03:46
jadehater
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by wicker.man:
“If that's your point of view, why are you bothering to contribute to this thread?”

Oh sorry I did not realise it was a thread for people to kowtow to then populist majority view. Thought it was a forum where people could offer their opinion and be counter subjected to opposed theory that either subjugated one's argument or at least presented an alternative proposition to evaluate and consider as an adopted level of thought. If you fear any other layer of consideration to be added or presented to your opinion then may I suggest this question to be broached into the arena of this particular study; if you don't like other people’s point of view, why are you bothering to contribute to this thread?
whoa182
05-12-2004
http://www.tabbyonline.co.uk/Audio.html

listening to tabbys performances, HE IS DEFININTLY DEFININTLY PLAYING LIVE !!!!.. But! listening back, the stuff he played is Very simple

Listen to sweet child of mine, its his own guitar playing, **** hes awesome, lmao hes gonna get a recording contract
wicker.man
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by jadehater:
“Oh sorry I did not realise it was a thread for people to kowtow to then populist majority view. Thought it was a forum where people could offer their opinion and be counter subjected to opposed theory that either subjugated one's argument or at least presented an alternative proposition to evaluate and consider as an adopted level of thought. If you fear any other layer of consideration to be added or presented to your opinion then may I suggest this question to be broached into the arena of this particular study; if you don't like other people’s point of view, why are you bothering to contribute to this thread?”


One minute you're saying you saying:

Originally Posted by jadehater:
“So if people belive he is miming and all you can say is well no he plays a bit, your argument has failed. You should simply ignore those people and laugh quietly in the corner at their ignorance.”

and then contradicting yourself by saying that the forum is a place for people to offer opinion. I simply have the opinion that Tabby was playing the guitar live, in contrast to the opinion of the person that started this thread who suggested that he wasn't playing live.
whip
05-12-2004
Let's see going back to him singing with chior, he gets on stage he's given guitar, he plugs in pat......ah well two out of threes not bad. lol. must of forgot in the heat of the show. Didn't effect his playing much.
Kewpee
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by whip:
“Let's see going back to him singing with chior, he gets on stage he's given guitar, he plugs in pat......ah well two out of threes not bad. lol. must of forgot in the heat of the show. Didn't effect his playing much. ”

You must be really sad he's gone, you're gonna miss nit picking every week.
whip
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“You must be really sad he's gone, you're gonna miss nit picking every week. ”

Not really only nit pick the people the people with nits. lol.
And not playing or singing are rather BIG nits. lol
Lucifers Duck
05-12-2004
Look as a muso for "hmmph" years.

Yes Tabby plays the guitar.
But only on the Solo work..

Now playing guitar solos is a skill you pick up after you have learned the rudiments of playing chords Etc...

So IMHO he is a guitarist and probably a very good one...

Why he wasn't allowed to strum over the songs was probably more to do with getting the levels right for the studio and broadcasts..

And the constraints of the actual programme it's self.... Have someone on stage who can actually play a damn instrument...

Unheard of in this manufactured industry.. They want pretty boys of limited talent not bone fide musicians..

Tabby can play the damn guitar and sing at the same time..

He's a rock and roll performer, not a pin-up….

Oops… gone off on one again… Sorry

Just because Tabby had the guitar slung over his shoulder and only done the solo work doesn’t mean he can’t play…
It Just means there were other factors involved, especially on a live show

So move along… There nothing here to see…

P.S. watched the show for the first time last night....

I hope the Steve chap wins... Great voice...
Kewpee
05-12-2004
Welcome to the brick wall Lucifers Duck, I hope you have a hard head.
stillrockin
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by jadehater:
“Oh sorry I did not realise it was a thread for people to kowtow to then populist majority view. Thought it was a forum where people could offer their opinion and be counter subjected to opposed theory that either subjugated one's argument or at least presented an alternative proposition to evaluate and consider as an adopted level of thought. If you fear any other layer of consideration to be added or presented to your opinion then may I suggest this question to be broached into the arena of this particular study; if you don't like other people’s point of view, why are you bothering to contribute to this thread?”

I wish I'd found you earlier - a level of logical argument might have been possible instead of the constant drawing into the arena of discussion of elements of emotional response which totally negate the process of logical rationale. Tabs has gone - my interest has diminished - I withdraw from the forum of discussion.
Last edited by stillrockin : 05-12-2004 at 11:38
stillrockin
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by Lucifers Duck:
“Look as a muso for "hmmph" years.

Yes Tabby plays the guitar.
But only on the Solo work..

Now playing guitar solos is a skill you pick up after you have learned the rudiments of playing chords Etc...

So IMHO he is a guitarist and probably a very good one...

Why he wasn't allowed to strum over the songs was probably more to do with getting the levels right for the studio and broadcasts..

And the constraints of the actual programme it's self.... Have someone on stage who can actually play a damn instrument...

Unheard of in this manufactured industry.. They want pretty boys of limited talent not bone fide musicians..

Tabby can play the damn guitar and sing at the same time..

He's a rock and roll performer, not a pin-up….

Oops… gone off on one again… Sorry

Just because Tabby had the guitar slung over his shoulder and only done the solo work doesn’t mean he can’t play…
It Just means there were other factors involved, especially on a live show

So move along… There nothing here to see…

P.S. watched the show for the first time last night....

I hope the Steve chap wins... Great voice... ”

Welcome Lucifer's Duck - we could have done with you earlier - a high level of hearing and visual impairment has been displayed by the majority of the forum. I suggest a quickly organised trip to Specsavers together with the mass distribution of hearing aids might solve the problem.
Lucifers Duck
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“Welcome to the brick wall Lucifers Duck, I hope you have a hard head. ”

Well I have a Ducks arse if that is any help

Originally Posted by stillrockin:
“Welcome Lucifer's Duck - we could have done with you earlier - a high level of hearing and visual impairment has been displayed by the majority of the forum. I suggest a quickly organised trip to Specsavers together with the mass distribution of hearing aids might solve the problem.”

Well it started off bad and then wandered into the realms of fantasy..
But hey it is an internet forum after all...

No... A basic rudimentary knowledge of how the media works and how to set up a stage show always helps..
if you don't have that then not even Specsavers can help you...

Sheet I don't even think Jesus can
Kewpee
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by Lucifers Duck:
“Well I have a Ducks arse if that is any help



Well it started off bad and then wandered into the realms of fantasy..
But hey it is an internet forum after all...

No... A basic rudimentary knowledge of how the media works and how to set up a stage show always helps..
if you don't have that then not even Specsavers can help you...

Sheet I don't even think Jesus can ”

A DA? Attractive!!

And as the old saying goes, 'there's none so blind as those that won't see'
Lucifers Duck
05-12-2004
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“ A DA? Attractive!! ”

No you misheard me I have a Ducks Arse.. As in it all just runs off it

Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“And as the old saying goes, 'there's none so blind as those that won't see' ”

Hmmm I just wish people wouldn't pontificate about things they have no knowledge of
jadehater
05-12-2004
A mate of mine was at one of the shows and said not only did he not play the guitar , it was playing even though his fingers were not moving: he actually mimeda lot of the vocal parts too.
Hope this helps.
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