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Old 02-08-2012, 10:13
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Like Lady Gaga or Rihanna for example do they have the potienal to be measured up with the legends like Elvis, Madonna, MIchael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Whitney, The beatles and so on.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:28
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Like Lady Gaga or Rihanna for example do they have the potienal to be measured up with the legends like Elvis, Madonna, MIchael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Whitney, The beatles and so on.
hmm interesting question.

I guess the key is longevity.

Many many artists have a huge impact for say 5 years or so.

But will they be remembered?.

You have to factor in social impact that the Beatles had.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:53
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I really think Rihanna could be. The songs are most important and she has them. She also has the striking looks that make her stand out. She still hasn't reached her peak. At 24, she could be releasing very successful songs for the next ten years. It is a lot harder to be iconic these days. The market is saturated. Madonna, MJ and Elvis didn't have that much direct competition. Now, there are at least 5 artists doing the same thing. It will divide people.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:53
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I can see diana vickers being around and getting remembered because she is doing things differently from other x factor winners and is giving music a kick up the backside.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:11
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I don't think there's anyone out of the new crop that can embody the true essence of the term "legend", but the media will probably degrade its meaning just to give someone the title.

I can see a lot of potential icons, though. Rihanna and GaGa could reach the level of a pop icon and Adele could become a vocal rolemodel. In the 90's, it was all about who would hit the higher note, but now it seems to be all about tone. (not a crazed Adele fan )
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:28
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I don't think there's anyone out of the new crop that can embody the true essence of the term "legend", but the media will probably degrade its meaning just to give someone the title.

I can see a lot of potential icons, though. Rihanna and GaGa could reach the level of a pop icon and Adele could become a vocal rolemodel. In the 90's, it was all about who would hit the higher note, but now it seems to be all about tone. (not a crazed Adele fan )
And autotune!
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:44
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Relatively speaking, i.e legends by achievement rather than defined by previous legends;

Not sure if Beyonce counts as part of the current crop, but I think she's pretty much a given. Whilst musically she isn't outstanding, her performing skills are unrivalled by peers. Her longevity, respect and popularity will be what sees her through.

Gaga is someone I can't see not becoming a pop legend. I don't think she would accept anything less, and with that drive and ambition often comes success. She's got a huge following that will grant her much more security than the other girls, and because she is more creatively self sufficient she will have an easier time sticking around through career lows. In terms of respect, I think she'll gain it through perseverence much like Madonna.

Rihanna would be the other one, but her future isn't as clear I don't think. I see lots of hit singles...which maybe will be where the respect will come from...but she may have trouble retaining market share when she isn't young and hot, and if she slips from being the fave the hits will go to whoever is.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:09
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Only Beyonce.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:24
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I thought we were only talking about the new crop. Beyonce has been in the game for 15 years.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:45
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Beyonce Is kinda of in this current crop in my opinon.
But shhe already on her way to icon status at least by the way things looking like for her career right now.
Also, for those reading this thread, what do you think these current crop of artists need to do or need, tobecome a legend/icon in music
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:51
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Its very difficult to say. Artists like Dina Carrol and Tina Arena have vanished despite oozing with talent. Katy Perry is better known these days. as is Jedward. Plus, in the summer of 1996, who would have thought that the 5 piece girl group Spice Girls would become the biggest legends in pop history since The Beatles? Wannabe deffo isn't as great as their later stuff. Baby Spice alone has had more hits than Beyonce, (group & solo) been in Neighbours and Ab Fab, and doing radio DJ'ing. Scary is an X Factor judge.

So its impossible to say, only time will tell and remember media selling tactics and peoples tastes are changing all the time!
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:01
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Its very difficult to say. Artists like Dina Carrol and Tina Arena have vanished despite oozing with talent. Katy Perry is better known these days. as is Jedward. Plus, in the summer of 1996, who would have thought that the 5 piece girl group Spice Girls would become the biggest legends in pop history since The Beatles? Wannabe deffo isn't as great as their later stuff. Baby Spice alone has had more hits than Beyonce, (group & solo) been in Neighbours and Ab Fab, and doing radio DJ'ing. Scary is an X Factor judge.

So its impossible to say, only time will tell and remember media selling tactics and peoples tastes are changing all the time!

Did you honestly mention Jedward in this topic
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:04
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Beyonce Is kinda of in this current crop in my opinon.
But shhe already on her way to icon status at least by the way things looking like for her career right now.
Also, for those reading this thread, what do you think these current crop of artists need to do or need, tobecome a legend/icon in music
If we can include Beyonce to the current crop, then we can add Britney, Christina, JT, Pink etc as well. All 4 of these singers can be considered budding icons, if not established icons

As far as your question goes, I think the new artists should take more risks. REAL risks, not changing their hair color and hiring a new stylist. What would Madonna be without 'Like A Prayer' or 'Erotica'? Risks, whether they work or backfire, are necessary and I feel like newer artists prefer to stick to their formulas, but in the grand scheme of things, this method won't benefit them
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:10
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I can see diana vickers being around and getting remembered because she is doing things differently from other x factor winners and is giving music a kick up the backside.
I've heard it all now.
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:11
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I thought we were only talking about the new crop. Beyonce has been in the game for 15 years.
What's the time limit? Rihanna was mentioned in the opening post, is 7 years ok but not 15?
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:17
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If we can include Beyonce to the current crop, then we can add Britney, Christina, JT, Pink etc as well. All 4 of these singers can be considered budding icons, if not established icons

As far as your question goes, I think the new artists should take more risks. REAL risks, not changing their hair color and hiring a new stylist. What would Madonna be without 'Like A Prayer' or 'Erotica'? Risks, whether they work or backfire, are necessary and I feel like newer artists prefer to stick to their formulas, but in the grand scheme of things, this method won't benefit them
That is very very true and what it should be judged by.

No pop artist out there today in the charts IMO can become true legends! I mean how much out there sounds the same right now? How much out there isnt a true risk and has been done countless times before? and better!

In terms of the past decade...Britney is a massive Pop Icon, Beyonce, P!nk, Christina Aguilera Justin Timberlake have steadily become known icons and profiles across their time frame by being definitive figures in Popular music and taking gambles and risks with their material (not just their style and how they look etc) but depending on where their careers go i have no idea whether legend will be attributed to their names. But i feel that if they further themselves perhaps musically (not sure about JT) maybe they can raise their profiles enough to be named alongside their influences....but even then its doubtful.

The likes of gaga, Katy Perry, Ke£ha, Rihanna, Adele out there the past few years have showcased they have catchy Pop tunes, have known images and have established fanbases....but they have yet to prove themselves as icons in current culture...they are arguably the leading ladies of Pop music right now...but they need to really take massive risks! (shocking meat dresses, blue and red hair dye wig offs, over auto-tuning and the no gimmicks-gimmick aint gonna cut it) but it will be interesting to see where it all heads with them. gaga has new material out later this year, what will it sound like, will it be a risk, will it retread similar ground? we will see....Katy Perry has had big success with her film and has hinted going darker and deeper on her next record, RIhanna is still a relentless hit machine, will this establish her as an icon eventually (a la Britney, Shakira, Kylie??) time will tell with these ladies....
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:20
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I think it has to be Jedward.

True superstars, who have a lot more to give and will be on top for a while.
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:27
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Oh Jesus help Me
Jedward had to be mentioned and DIANA VICKERS!!!!
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:34
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What's the time limit? Rihanna was mentioned in the opening post, is 7 years ok but not 15?
You're kidding? There's a huge difference between 7 years and 15 years of experience, especially in an industry as fast paced as showbiz. I thought the new crop would be artists who made their debut sometime in the past 10 years...
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:38
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You're kidding? There's a huge difference between 7 years and 15 years of experience, especially in an industry as fast paced as showbiz. I thought the new crop would be artists who made their debut sometime in the past 10 years...
Oh right, just checking as you seem to be setting the limits.

Thanks for confirming.

Beyonce as a solo artist has been around 9 years.
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:46
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So she part of the new crop but already on her way to legendary status
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:53
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That is very very true and what it should be judged by.

No pop artist out there today in the charts IMO can become true legends! I mean how much out there sounds the same right now? How much out there isnt a true risk and has been done countless times before? and better!

In terms of the past decade...Britney is a massive Pop Icon, Beyonce, P!nk, Christina Aguilera Justin Timberlake have steadily become known icons and profiles across their time frame by being definitive figures in Popular music and taking gambles and risks with their material (not just their style and how they look etc) but depending on where their careers go i have no idea whether legend will be attributed to their names. But i feel that if they further themselves perhaps musically (not sure about JT) maybe they can raise their profiles enough to be named alongside their influences....but even then its doubtful.

The likes of gaga, Katy Perry, Ke£ha, Rihanna, Adele out there the past few years have showcased they have catchy Pop tunes, have known images and have established fanbases....but they have yet to prove themselves as icons in current culture...they are arguably the leading ladies of Pop music right now...but they need to really take massive risks! (shocking meat dresses, blue and red hair dye wig offs, over auto-tuning and the no gimmicks-gimmick aint gonna cut it) but it will be interesting to see where it all heads with them. gaga has new material out later this year, what will it sound like, will it be a risk, will it retread similar ground? we will see....Katy Perry has had big success with her film and has hinted going darker and deeper on her next record, RIhanna is still a relentless hit machine, will this establish her as an icon eventually (a la Britney, Shakira, Kylie??) time will tell with these ladies....
It will definitely be interesting to see how the new artists evolve in the near future. The pop icons of the late 90's and early 00's all had such tremendous changes and transformations in their careers. They all were quite unpredictable. Christina, Britney, Justin. Who would have guessed Justin's solo work would be so amazing and who would have thought the teen sensation with the high notes would release a song like 'Dirrty'.

Can't wait to see some of the new artists attempting to go against the grain.
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Old 02-08-2012, 13:57
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So she part of the new crop but already on her way to legendary status
Right. She's kind of like Whitney/ Mariah/ Christina type in a way. Her first 2/3 albums were so massive that she's established now. I hope the industry returns to the policies that helped these ladies get popular (breaks between albums, good promotion, top notch videos etc).
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Old 02-08-2012, 14:02
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The ovbious candidates in terms of pop has to be:

Lady Gaga
Rihanna
Katy Perry

All have something going for them and are the biggest current set of female pop stars but each now has the chance to take the crown who will be ambitious and bold enough and musically strong enough to take it is up to them but each has huge potential and has significant achievements thus far but as someone else said there needs to be more than auttune, colourful wigs, and meat dresses rhey each need their thriller/true blue moments to become more than just popstars.
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Old 02-08-2012, 14:07
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I think it has to be Jedward.

True superstars, who have a lot more to give and will be on top for a while.
I know you are being sarcastic, but this is truer than you think.

Here is a short vid of Jedward at a CD signing in Singapore a couple of weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSZbiR4CObE

And at another CD signing yesterday in Stockholm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WodlJptk4Xo

I know you will all probably say big deal those are just 2 small countries, but outside the UK, Jedward's popularity is growing all the time.
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