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Natalie, an apology
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EddyBee
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“I find the suggestion that the public are bullies for voting for her to be something of a joke....Her constant selfish behavior got her the trials, not the public being malicious ”

Well said.
pony
29-11-2004
Sophie has no reason to like Natalie. Natalie's behaviour to her has been atrocious. I'm not just thinking of the way she picked on her in camp - what about the snap game, and the way Nat's Dobby-like facce lit up every time Sophie ate something unpleasant, to provide her with food? Nevertheless Sophie has treated her with compassion and respect. I don't see why she should actually be expected to like Natalie too.

No-one in the viewing public has bullied Natalie. She was aware of the rules when she went in, for one thing - Fash, anyone? He was bullied by the gen. pub. so badly that he came a popular second place in the final vote! And she was not made to do those trials because she had a phobia - she was made to do them because she comes across as one of the all-time most self-centred and unpleasant individuals in reality tv.

If anyone owes anyone an apology, it's Natalie - to the camp for failure to provide them with meals, and to the producers for failure to enter into the spirit of the show.
evansc
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by pinkfish:
“apparently her sister reckons she genuinaly is scared of everything
click here



so what is she like at home ???

mummy there is a spider in the bath eek squeak I can't do it help me "
changing her babies nappy- I feel sick, the smell I can't do it eek sob sry sry cry , needs oxygen
on the escalator in harvey Nicks - Its too high I can't move, its too fast cry sob Mummy help me
in the park......oh my god I touched a leaf!!”

I think there is a 'Mr. Men' book called Mr. Jelly. He was scared of leaves!!!. Maybe she could be Mrs. Jelly!!!,
cazkins
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by pony:
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If anyone owes anyone an apology, it's Natalie - to the camp for failure to provide them with meals, and to the producers for failure to enter into the spirit of the show.”

And to me for spoiling the first week of the show!
Susann
29-11-2004
I am not surprised Natalie has walked, she has got the exposure she craved, ok none of them are saints in there, they are all in there for their own selfish reasons imho, but Natalie has playacted her way through it from the beginning ( if only she had put in such a performance in her film, it may not have been a flop ), she wanted the trials, it was getting her noticed and the public were silly enough not to ignore her and voted her for each one. Even during her contrived row with Sophie, there was that smirk on her face.

Natalie had realised no more Bush tucker trials for her after yesterday, no more prime air time, the only thing she could do was walk to still gain sympathy from the public ( and it seems to be working already ), either that or just be forgotten from now onwards. Natalie is very calculating and I for one hope it backfires on her she has ruined IACGMOOH for me so far, so now she has left the jungle, maybe just maybe I can begin to enjoy this series now. Her ex hubby had already more or less said before she went in, that she would play the public for fools with a poor little me act, and act on everyones sympathies, but she is hard as nails.
Summer Rain
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Susann:
“I am not surprised Natalie has walked, she has got the exposure she craved, ok none of them are saints in there, they are all in there for their own selfish reasons imho, but Natalie has playacted her way through it from the beginning ( if only she had put in such a performance in her film, it may not have been a flop ), she wanted the trials, it was getting her noticed and the public were silly enough not to ignore her and voted her for each one. Even during her contrived row with Sophie, there was that smirk on her face.

Natalie had realised no more Bush tucker trials for her after yesterday, no more prime air time, the only thing she could do was walk to still gain sympathy from the public ( and it seems to be working already ), either that or just be forgotten from now onwards. Natalie is very calculating and I for one hope it backfires on her she has ruined IACGMOOH for me so far, so now she has left the jungle, maybe just maybe I can begin to enjoy this series now. Her ex hubby had already more or less said before she went in, that she would play the public for fools with a poor little me act, and act on everyones sympathies, but she is hard as nails.”

If her exhusband says that it must be true Not that he would be bitter or twisted or anything like that
Susann
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Summer Rain:
“If her exhusband says that it must be true Not that he would be bitter or twisted or anything like that ”

I didn't say it was true because her ex husband had said anything. I am just trying to put it into perspective and explain how close to the truth he may actually have been. After all no matter how well him and Natalie may or may not get on, he would know her better than most :yawn:

I realise you may love and make excuses for Natalie no matter what, it doesn't mean other forum members have to though.
Summer Rain
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Susann:
“I didn't say it was true because her ex husband had said anything, I am just trying to put it into perspective and explain how close to the truth he may actually have been. After all no matter how well Him and natalie may or may not get on, he would know her better than most :yawn:”

They were married when she was 17. I doubt he knows her at all now as apparently he has nothing to do with their daughter.
Susann
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Summer Rain:
“They were married when she was 17. I doubt he knows her at all now as apparently he has nothing to do with their daughter.”

This not a character assessment on Natalies ex, so what has the fact he apparently has anything to do with his daughter or not got to do with anything ? Wheather they were married at 17 or 27, does not mean he does not know what she is like, of course he does
Summer Rain
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Susann:
“This not a character assessment on Natalies ex, so what has the fact he has anything to do with his daughter or not got to do with anything ? Wheather they were married at 17 or 27, does not mean he does not know what she is like, of course he does ”

what I am saying is that people change alot from the age of 17 to 31 I doubt she is the same person he knew then
Susann
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Summer Rain:
“what I am saying is that people change alot from the age of 17 to 31 I doubt she is the same person he knew then ”

Most people don't change that much, so we don't know for sure she isn't the same person he knew, especially as he seems to have hit the nail on the head as to what her behaviour in the jungle would be
JTW
29-11-2004
Just when I went to my bed before 6 this morning, I miss all the drama.

So Natalie's gone? I can't tell you how glad I am. ITV will need to find another storyline now and frankly I'm glad.

She was ruining the whole show and people on this forum only last night, including myself, were getting totally fed up with the Natalie Appleton show.

So good riddance to her. Hope she spends her money on some decent therapy to sort herself out. I've said from day one, she should never have been on the show in the first place, but the greed phobia must've been stronger than all the others.

So let the show begin with the other 'real' bullies getting booted out next.
yahoodlums
29-11-2004
Apologise? To Natalie???!!! No WAY!!

She is the most affected, pathetic, annoying, attention-seeking wannabe ever. What a truly pathetic human being. What a loser. There is no way on earth she should have been allowed on the show. She owes the viewing public a huge apology for almost single-handedly destroying IACGMOOH. I feel angry that she's getting paid for being there, its an absolute p*ss take!
Uncle Albert
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“....Her constant selfish behavior got her the trials, not the public being malicious ”

Umm...I was being malicious! and I LOVED it!!

Actually it's like a real life version of a game such as "The Sims" where you have control over other "people" and their "lives". Example.....If there was a number you could phone to make Sheila wear a gag all day so she couldn't sing...would you call it? A number to have Janet put in the stocks so the rest could throw custard pies at her.....and so on...the very fact that "we" can exert that kind of control was why "we" did it!! Power to the People!!!
Martyn_F1
29-11-2004
If she had made a real effort to succeed at the trials & failed, I wouldn't have a problem, I thought Sophie would've wimped out of the trials, I was wrong, I didn't think she would be up for them but she proved me wrong, at least she had a go & in doing so gained some respect from me in the process, Paul tried, John Fashanu & Jordan also gained my respect doing their trials.

Sorry but Natalie just didn't try in my opinion so no sympathy & no respect from me, she just wasn't up to the challenges that were asked of her.

If she genuinely has so many phobias then maybe she should seek professional help.
baileybots
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by metafis:
“well I call picking on the weakest member of a group bullying. and I feel sorry for her now. and I'm glad I feel sorry for her.”

payback is such a bitch for natalie isnt it
OvertheHill
29-11-2004
I'm sorry but this post epitomises the new culture in Britain that seems to entitle people to take absolutely no responsibility for their own actions. It's pathetic. This woman has clearly been pandered to all her life to the extent that she is now a complete and utter spoilt brat who thinks of nobody but herself.

She has gone on this show of her own volition, despite apparently, her own family trying to convince her otherwise. She has abused another camp member with possibly the wost ever thought out argument in history ("I didn't feel you baby") and she has provided the perfect example to everybody on what happens if you don't try.

There's nobody to blame but herself. You call this bullying by the public? Get a grip.
Mr Twain
29-11-2004
Originally Posted by lots2do:
“she has exposed herself as a spoilt brat, a neurotic and a person who comes across as someone who has undergone too much therapy.”

Not enough by the looks of it.
Dan27
29-11-2004
Good riddance to Natalie. She was voted to do loads of bush tucker trials because the public could, and because the public wanted to see her eat those bugs, to stand in all that gunk and try and pick up the stars, to see her go through that lake with the snakes in... and to see her try and get to the BTTs over that bridge! It was part of the game for the public to vote for her, and she deserved what she got.

The thing is, her getting all the BTTs has stopped us from finding out who else may have been able to do what Sophie did on the Snap BTT, step up to the plate and show us who could do what Natalie couldnt do to get the rest of the camp some food. We cant give half the camp the same kind of respect that was earned by Sophie (which she earned regardless of our personal feelings about her and her attitude) when she ate what she did.

Natalie was there for herself and herself only. She said herself just as one of the shows went off air something in the lines of "my god, Im on another BTT.. Ive never got so much exposure!".. she was there for just that, her public image (as if she needs the money...). I hope to hell that this backfires, and we somehow see Sophie win this show.
DennisPotter
29-11-2004
yes,yes,yes.

She knew the rules, she made a mistake,probably shouldn't have been there .....

Is that any reason to totally humiliate her? Surely it had gone far enough with the eating trial.

Even Tara said "enough - move on" to the viewing public.

Even if she's "guilty" of spoiling some peoples enjoyment of the programme, that is no excuse for victimisation.

The glee with which some of the posts on this site revel in it is quite disturbing
yahoodlums
29-11-2004
Its just a modern freakshow, where the public can delight in the cringeworthy lengths of desperation sad, has-been, ex-celebs will go to have one more crack at the limelight.

If people are pleased that Natalie has gone its because she was a self obsessed bore.
Mesostim
29-11-2004
Back to this bullying thing...should I start writing apologies to everyone I've ever voted for, since it must be for no other reason than to bully them ...Mind you it's going to take awhile, and I'm quite restrained with my voting...
pony
29-11-2004
Far enough with the eating trial? She ate a piece of fruit. If eating a piece of fruit were a humiliation, the greengrocers would be out of business!

Fash was in a similar situation two series ago - but he got stuck in, and won the viewers over. No-one wanted to see Natalie degraded - but we did want to see her try. And trying is something that every other celebrity in the history of the show, in my opinion, has done.

I just wasn't feeling her, babe.
metafis
29-11-2004
So was she acting or was she really being herself?
If shes acting then shes not a wimp, as she was only pretending to be scared.
If she really was scared, then imo, she did her best.

My original post was stressing this point. ie I at first thought she was acting and putting it on, Now shes left, its clear she wasnt and really does have a lot of phobias and isnt a strong person at all.
Perhaps she could have tried harder?, maybe she tried as hard as SHE could, who knows, whatever, my apology was for thinking she was acting, when it now appears she is really like that.

its like the squdie in the army who gets pushed to breaking point, if its clear someone isnt up to it you stop, continuing is bullying IMO. Thats how I feel, I understand others feel different, no problem, however to me its bullying.
yahoodlums
29-11-2004
metafis, why do you feel the need to apologise?

I don't understand. If you thought she was acting at first, and then realised she was just a weak person, why the need for an apology, or recrimination? She's paid to be there, she's an adult (questionable, I know) and she went into the jungle of her own free will. She wanted the limelight, and now she's got it... why should anyone feel the need to apologise to her?

I'm not questioning your right to start a thread like this I'm just puzzled why you would...?
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