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Deana's attitude
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tlkwok
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Did everyone see Deana's conversation with Adam regarding Ashleigh and the shopping sabotage? She was questioning why Adam would fall out with her if she ordered only chicken and broccoli, and when Adam pointed out it would be as bad as what 'they' did, Deana said that when someone does something bad to you, you should do something bad back to them. I find this a very disturbing, resentful attitude to have, and out of place in modern civilised society. As Gandhi said, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Yet people believe this tripe about her being classy and dignified. She just seems argumentative and sullen to me.”

it's one thing deana said that i didn't agree with

considering your strong feeling to this incident you must hate the insiders too
Oswald Mosley
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by tlkwok:
“it's one thing deana said that i didn't agree with

considering your strong feeling to this incident you must hate the insiders too”

I don't have strong feelings about the incident, I just find people's need for revenge over such petty things slightly disturbing.
Virgo
03-08-2012
I am pleased that some of you are now seeing the real Deana.

Why and how many of the HMs has she had/been in arguments with?
Why are she so disliked by most of the HMs ?

Surely 99percent of the HMs can't be that wrong and one person right all the time.

Seeing from this no wonder she was expelled from not one....not two.....not three.....but four schools.
psychedelic
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Virgo:
“I am pleased that some of you are now seeing the real Deana.

Why and how many of the HMs has she had/been in arguments with?
Why are she so disliked by most of the HMs ?

Surely 99percent of the HMs can't be that wrong and one person right all the time.

Seeing from this no wonder she was expelled from not one....not two.....not three.....but four schools.”

And the Deana fans try to make much of her being suspended not expelled. Well as someone else said you don't get expelled nowadays you get excluded and that is what she was, not once but 4 times, not quite Saint Deana then obviously.
anguk
03-08-2012
I can understand why Deana was angry and wanting revenge but Adam was right, if she sabotaged the shopping list she would be no better than Caroline. Deana couldn't seem to see that two wrongs don't make a right and seemed more concerned about getting Adam to agree with her point of view.

I also found it a bit odd when she kept saying "would you still be my friend" or "so you wouldn't be my friend if I did this", it's as though she was trying to trip Adam up or make him look bad.
centurion1
03-08-2012
I suppose it was okay for Adam to destroy chocolate and withhold cigarettes in an act of revenge. Deana never vented any real anger over it, though over the week she suffered as much as the others. At the end of the day Deana was just reacting to Ashleigh and it was no big deal. Obviously it is a big deal to the OP who has his own agenda.
Leeah
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Virgo:
“I am pleased that some of you are now seeing the real Deana.

Why and how many of the HMs has she had/been in arguments with?
Why are she so disliked by most of the HMs ?

Surely 99percent of the HMs can't be that wrong and one person right all the time.

Seeing from this no wonder she was expelled from not one....not two.....not three.....but four schools.”

I seen it a while ago, she may have fooled a lot of people but not me. I agree, and even Luke A and Adam have had their doubts about her. Surely she ain't the saint she's portrayed as on here, she must rub people up the wrong way...
Littlegreen42
03-08-2012
Keep clutching the delusional straws, i'm supporting ALL 3 outsiders.
roses are red
03-08-2012
Interesting that without the temporary presence of Conor, Deana feels more relaxed, as she doesn't feel the need to play the oppressed one, at the moment. She became more direct in her attacks, and she is baiting her targets even more than before to create more arguments. Now she is really showing her pesonality, the real Deana.
Oswald Mosley
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by centurion1:
“I suppose it was okay for Adam to destroy chocolate and withhold cigarettes in an act of revenge. Deana never vented any real anger over it, though over the week she suffered as much as the others. At the end of the day Deana was just reacting to Ashleigh and it was no big deal. Obviously it is a big deal to the OP who has his own agenda.”

Destroying the chocolate wouldn't have been an act of revenge. For it to be revenge it needs to calculated and considered action, threatening to destroy the chocolate was natural anger at the discovery of the situation. Withholding cigarettes was also not revenge. Ashleigh conspired to the shopping sabotage and was happy for the house to receive no cigarettes, so it was fair game that the people who genuinely wanted them, and who were not at fault for the loss of them, should get first dibs on the cigarettes doled out by BB. Idealistically Adam should have been 'the bigger man' and shared out the cigarettes initially, but equally Ashleigh should have had the grace, manners and humility to not demand the cigarettes after her part in the shopping sabotage.
radiofree
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Jakobjoe:
“It was rather revealing.
People need to focus on this and the permanent sullen expression, rather than the soldiers cringiness.”

since when does deana have a 'permanent sullen expression'?
if you've never seen her smile or laugh, you've not been watching.
radiofree
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Virgo:
“I am pleased that some of you are now seeing the real Deana.

Why and how many of the HMs has she had/been in arguments with?
Why are she so disliked by most of the HMs ?

Surely 99percent of the HMs can't be that wrong and one person right all the time.

Seeing from this no wonder she was expelled from not one....not two.....not three.....but four schools.”

jeez, one minute people dislike her for being boring. next minute she's attacked for being expelled from school. she can't be both boring and rebellious at the same time.
psychedelic
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by radiofree:
“since when does deana have a 'permanent sullen expression'?
if you've never seen her smile or laugh, you've not been watching.”

Oh yes I have seen her smile, usually when she is plotting how to get one over on all of her HM's except her allies (not friends, she's friends with no-one in there) and laugh when she is laughing at someone else.
Swinetown
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Did everyone see Deana's conversation with Adam regarding Ashleigh and the shopping sabotage? She was questioning why Adam would fall out with her if she ordered only chicken and broccoli, and when Adam pointed out it would be as bad as what 'they' did, Deana said that when someone does something bad to you, you should do something bad back to them. I find this a very disturbing, resentful attitude to have, and out of place in modern civilised society. As Gandhi said, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Yet people believe this tripe about her being classy and dignified. She just seems argumentative and sullen to me.”

That's why no one in the house gets on with her
chloedancer
03-08-2012
i agree...soldier deana is the best housemate ever.please keep voting guys
wappaho
03-08-2012
Chicken and broccoli?

I think Adam was thinking about the consequences
Toggler
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by centurion1:
“I suppose it was okay for Adam to destroy chocolate and withhold cigarettes in an act of revenge. Deana never vented any real anger over it, though over the week she suffered as much as the others. At the end of the day Deana was just reacting to Ashleigh and it was no big deal. Obviously it is a big deal to the OP who has his own agenda.”

I agree with you. I think far too much is being made of this, she was p***ed off, vented to Adam, he gave her a sensible answer, end of. I don't see the problem. I wouldn't see a problem if anyone else had said the same thing either.
Sasparella
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Destroying the chocolate wouldn't have been an act of revenge. For it to be revenge it needs to calculated and considered action, threatening to destroy the chocolate was natural anger at the discovery of the situation. Withholding cigarettes was also not revenge. Ashleigh conspired to the shopping sabotage and was happy for the house to receive no cigarettes, so it was fair game that the people who genuinely wanted them, and who were not at fault for the loss of them, should get first dibs on the cigarettes doled out by BB. Idealistically Adam should have been 'the bigger man' and shared out the cigarettes initially, but equally Ashleigh should have had the grace, manners and humility to not demand the cigarettes after her part in the shopping sabotage.”

He actually did that as revenge tho, Deana said "hypothetically" to Adam, which means that it's not going to be done, it's just a hypothetical question. You really are clutching at straws here.
Leeah
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by roses are red:
“Interesting that without the temporary presence of Conor, Deana feels more relaxed, as she doesn't feel the need to play the oppressed one, at the moment. She became more direct in her attacks, and she is baiting her targets even more than before to create more arguments. Now she is really showing her pesonality, the real Deana.”

Yes, noticed this more 'outspoken' Deana since Conor went in the White Room
Oswald Mosley
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“He actually did that as revenge tho, Deana said "hypothetically" to Adam, which means that it's not going to be done, it's just a hypothetical question. You really are clutching at straws here.”

Oh, that makes it OK then If only Conor talked hypothetically about shoving an epilator up Deana's you-know-what it would have all been dandy.
Swinetown
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Oh, that makes it OK then If only Conor talked hypothetically about shoving an epilator up Deana's you-know-what it would have all been dandy.”

Good Point
lastmanstanding
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Oh, that makes it OK then If only Conor talked hypothetically about shoving an epilator up Deana's you-know-what it would have all been dandy.”

Of course those two things are really comparable
trevor tiger
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“I don't have strong feelings about the incident, I just find people's need for revenge over such petty things slightly disturbing.”

I would say you don't have much imagination then. Firstly they are living in a tiny environment with only certain people to interact with. They were forced to eat chocolate with little else fir a week and so the small environment becomes even more stressfull and irritating

Secondly her revenge was rather lacklustre. Buying healthy tasty stuff for a week

And finally Caroline did what she did to cause harm and stress, she said so. Imagine what that feels like to people already feeling targeted and disliked and not listened to. I don't think it makes sense to judge Deana wanting to do something back to selfish people in this particular situation as if it's in another enviroment where you can eg walk away
tlkwok
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Oh, that makes it OK then If only Conor talked hypothetically about shoving an epilator up Deana's you-know-what it would have all been dandy.”

conor said that before ashleigh's hypothetical question... so that comment wasn't made under a hypothetical situation.

(pun) and if u asked becky she would tell you it literally happened
JanisElizabeth
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“It was Hypothetical.

Jump on any opportunity if you want...”

In fairness she did look extremely sulky and it seemed to me she was deliberately trying to get a reaction from Adam.
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