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Deana's attitude
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Oswald Mosley
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by lastmanstanding:
“Of course those two things are really comparable ”

I wasn't comparing them, I was just making the point that saying something 'hypothetically' bears no relevance. Deana may have said it hypothetically, but that's not to say she wouldn't have gone ahead with it if Adam and Luke A weren't so resistant to it.
JanisElizabeth
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Sues:
“I wouldn't take seriously anything spouted by someone who adopts such a forum name as the OP's”

I wouldn't take seriously anything spouted by someone as patronising as you appear to be
cressida100
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by tsutsu:
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I really liked Adam in that clip, he showed a great level of maturity, and managed the situation with ease.”


^^^^^ this with knobs on!
evenangels
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by roses are red:
“Interesting that without the temporary presence of Conor, Deana feels more relaxed, as she doesn't feel the need to play the oppressed one, at the moment. She became more direct in her attacks, and she is baiting her targets even more than before to create more arguments. Now she is really showing her pesonality, the real Deana.”

I saw that as well she seems to be quite nasty
JanisElizabeth
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by lastmanstanding:
“Of course those two things are really comparable ”

It doesn't matter about the context it's the hypothesis that's in question and that wasn't answered!
Janet_Hadfield
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Oh, that makes it OK then If only Conor talked hypothetically about shoving an epilator up Deana's you-know-what it would have all been dandy.”

But Conor didn't say hypothetically, he said what he wanted to do and what he would do. Deana did not threaten sexual and physical violence. Chicken and Broccoli are at least sensible food unlike chocolate.
Mercier
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“It doesn't matter about the context it's the hypothesis that's in question and that wasn't answered!”

But it's ultimately a moot point and the hypothesis is irrelevant, at the end of the day she didn't do it, sure she discussed it, but she didn't do it.
Swinetown
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Mercier:
“But it's ultimately a moot point and the hypothesis is irrelevant, at the end of the day she didn't do it, sure she discussed it, but she didn't do it.”


If you are going to use that stance, Nor did Conor,
Mercier
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Janet_Hadfield:
“But Conor didn't say hypothetically, he said what he wanted to do and what he would do. Deana did not threaten sexual and physical violence. Chicken and Broccoli are at least sensible food unlike chocolate.”

Janet,

I appreciate the fact that your moral nature compelled you to answer Moseley's post, I even thought about answering it. But you know what if someone can't distinguish between talking about ordering chicken and broccoli and Conor's diatribe, the violence, mysogyny and what it actually meant and the gravity of it then there really is not point in answering.

It's depressing that a conversation about chicken & broccoli sabotage, a hypothetical conversation which she never went through with is equated as being as serious as this and several other events.

Sometimes with threads such as this it's best just to let them get on with it.
Yes
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by sammy8:
“She said, when someone does something bad to you, you want to do the same back, and its true, if someones rude to you, you want to do the same back, but its just would you actually do it?”

What she didn't seem to understand is it would also affect Luke A and Adam . She was being really weird there.
Mercier
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Swinetown:
“If you are going to use that stance, Nor did Conor,”

No. And the fact you can't see the difference is pretty depressing. Anyway I'm out, I'll let you all get on with it in this thread. Have fun.
anguk
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by roses are red:
“Interesting that without the temporary presence of Conor, Deana feels more relaxed, as she doesn't feel the need to play the oppressed one, at the moment. She became more direct in her attacks, and she is baiting her targets even more than before to create more arguments. Now she is really showing her pesonality, the real Deana.”

I agree. There's no doubt that Deana has been suppressed in there with Conor's presence and it is very interesting to watch how she is when he's not there. And I do agree that over the last couple of days since Conor has been in the White Room she has been more vocal and also targeting and baiting some of the others.

I wonder what would have happened if Conor had been voted out in the first week or chucked out after his vile rant? Would we have seen this Deana all the way through the show? And I also wonder if she would have been so popular and liked if we'd seen this darker side of her all through the show.
Kewpee
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Did everyone see Deana's conversation with Adam regarding Ashleigh and the shopping sabotage? She was questioning why Adam would fall out with her if she ordered only chicken and broccoli, and when Adam pointed out it would be as bad as what 'they' did, Deana said that when someone does something bad to you, you should do something bad back to them. I find this a very disturbing, resentful attitude to have, and out of place in modern civilised society. As Gandhi said, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Yet people believe this tripe about her being classy and dignified. She just seems argumentative and sullen to me.”

I find it disturbing that anyone would choose such a forum name
exodus2u
03-08-2012
Deanas face sems to be getting fatter by the day
Seymour
03-08-2012
I have no idea why Deana should be favourite to win BB,the first weeks we wouldn't have known she was in the house if it hadn't been for Conor. I haven't liked her from the start , I find her sly and moody, and imo she seem to be looking down her nose at the other HM's.We now know that she can stand up and shout like the rest of them, so why did she allow Conor to pick on her like he did...I don't mind her making the final but imho she should not win....
anguk
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Yes:
“What she didn't seem to understand is it would also affect Luke A and Adam . She was being really weird there.”

Deana is a very clever woman, she understood perfectly well that it would also affect Luke A and Adam.
Oswald Mosley
03-08-2012
The chicken and broccoli is neither here nor there. The crux of this thread is Deana's attitude, quietly bluntly depicted with 'if someone hurts me I want to hurt them back, sod the innocent bystanders who get caught in the cross-fire'. It is also about the hypocrisy of labeling people 'selfish' for inflicting on a group of people a situation she would mirror herself in her own favour. Deana puts herself before everyone else; as Adam said it's all 'I, I I' and 'me, me me' with her. She feels like she should be most aggrieved because it is her wonderful body that is gaining weight through the diet of chocolate. Even though everyone else is in the same boat, Deana feels only she should have a say in what the house lives on for the next week. Selfish, egotistical behaviour.
JanisElizabeth
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Swinetown:
“If you are going to use that stance, Nor did Conor,”

Valid point!
Heyyouoverthere
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“He actually did that as revenge tho, Deana said "hypothetically" to Adam, which means that it's not going to be done, it's just a hypothetical question. You really are clutching at straws here.”

He did it as an act of revenge on the day in the heat of the moment. Deana is doing it days later when everyone has gotten over it that is the difference I think.
jenncym
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“Deana is not a reasonable person, as we've seen alot recently. She's very selfish and actually her soldiers comments are quite telling, the girl loves conflict. The chicken and broccoli discussion came from nowhere, one of those what if... questions that are usually brought up to create a reaction, she got one and I am sure that she is hoping that Adam will now be viewed as not being loyal. Nasty girl ”

Yes, I thought she was trying to get Adam seen in a bad light too. She seems to be quite a headworker which would be easy with people like Sara etc because they cant hide their emotions easily. She came unstuck with Adam though who just stays calm and turns it all into lighthearted banter. Hes amazing IMO
geordieboys
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Leeah:
“Why would someone as dignified and classy want to get revenge, over a shopping list sabotaged by an immature girl who has now left..”

That's not the full story.

Deana knew other housmates were involved, and wanted to teach them a lesson.

Nothing for the OP to get disturbed about.
Star_Bright
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Oh, that makes it OK then If only Conor talked hypothetically about shoving an epilator up Deana's you-know-what it would have all been dandy.”

Originally Posted by Swinetown:
“Good Point”

Haha, nice catch. And I don't even like Conor!!
Summer Kisses
03-08-2012
Maybe Adam doesn't like broccoli

I don't blame her to be honest she'd had to live on chocolate for a week. She usually eats healthily. They had a minimum budget quite sensible to order chicken which is very versatile.
JanisElizabeth
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by geordieboys:
“That's not the full story.

Deana knew other housmates were involved, and wanted to teach them a lesson.Nothing for the OP to get disturbed about.”


That's a lame excuse. Caroline is not even there and although she told others she was going to do what she did I don't think they really believed she would. The thing is it wouldn't just be them who suffered. It would be all the others who had nothing at all to do with Caroline's prank. I thought it was very selfish immature and silly of Deana and I firmly believe that if Adam and Luke A had gone along with her she would have done it.
Heyyouoverthere
03-08-2012
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“In fairness she did look extremely sulky and it seemed to me she was deliberately trying to get a reaction from Adam.”

The tone of her voice seemed she was in a mood and wanted a reaction. She sounded annoyed even though the incident happened days ago.
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