[JoJo4]

Originally Posted by Gemo52

Like this?

look out Den!

Originally Posted by doodle doo

i'm not enjoying it so far

and i realised this evening, the police academy countdown on bots, i got that muddled up with the old leslie nielsen programme police squad, and wondered why it was still running and i never knew it was so popular still

Hi doods - not watching it yet, we're watching the athletics, I'll probably watch later so I can FF if necessary - ie every time Ashleigh speaks.

[Gemo52]

Mr G is actually watching BB and laughing at it.

[Denley]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Domestic Cats kill 200 million Birds a year but no-one is interested.

Not enough people are interested but cat owners need educating to prevent it, cat bells, curfews and making sure they're fed etc.

There are lots of reasons for the decline in bird numbers but no-one really knows how much is down to cats.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/garden...ddeclines.aspx

I am staunchly anti-pesticides of all kinds.

Declining bee population is far more of a worry. And the biggest single factor in that is overuse of pesticides.

Originally Posted by doodle doo

i'm not enjoying it so far

and i realised this evening, the police academy countdown on bots, i got that muddled up with the old leslie nielsen programme police squad, and wondered why it was still running and i never knew it was so popular still

police squad that was brilliant!

I'm not watching BB tonight. Olympics all the way for me.

Yes! Mo Farah wins GLD !!!! Turning into quite a night for GB Olympics, 3 Golds.

[Denley]

Originally Posted by JoJo4

look out Den!

haha! reminded me of this comedy gold...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uel1vfAQ52M

[JoJo4]

Originally Posted by Denley

Not enough people are interested but cat owners need educating to prevent it, cat bells, curfews and making sure they're fed etc.

There are lots of reasons for the decline in bird numbers but no-one really knows how much is down to cats.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/garden...ddeclines.aspx

I am staunchly anti-pesticides of all kinds.

Declining bee population is far more of a worry. And the biggest single factor in that is overuse of pesticides.



police squad that was brilliant!

I'm not watching BB tonight. Olympics all the way for me.

Yes! Mo Farah wins GLD !!!! Turning into quite a night for GB Olympics, 3 Golds.

Wasn't he tremendous - and his poor wife, expecting twin girls any minute now! I know just how she feels, remember it so well

[JoJo4]

Originally Posted by Denley

haha! reminded me of this comedy gold...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uel1vfAQ52M

Love it - 'senile delinquents'

[Denley]

Originally Posted by JoJo4

Wasn't he tremendous - and his poor wife, expecting twin girls any minute now! I know just how she feels, remember it so well

could really be quite a night for the Farah's then!

you had twins JoJo?

[Denley]

Originally Posted by JoJo4

Love it - 'senile delinquents'

"Yes, gangs of old ladies attacking fit, defenceless, young men." Classic.

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by Denley

Not enough people are interested but cat owners need educating to prevent it, cat bells, curfews and making sure they're fed etc.

There are lots of reasons for the decline in bird numbers but no-one really knows how much is down to cats.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/garden...ddeclines.aspx

I am staunchly anti-pesticides of all kinds.

Declining bee population is far more of a worry. And the biggest single factor in that is overuse of pesticides.



police squad that was brilliant!

I'm not watching BB tonight. Olympics all the way for me.

Yes! Mo Farah wins GLD !!!! Turning into quite a night for GB Olympics, 3 Golds.

Noone ever controls a cat, thy go out when they want and usually come in when they want and noone is interested in what it does when it's out.

I have a cat living each side of me, they know they aren't welcome and can look out when we see them.

I would think the roads these days kill more animals than ever before, in fact, unless they can fly they are going to get run over.

Either way there's no a good chance of survival.

Bee's are probably declining because of a couple of reasons.

One being that most of the land now is agriculture, nothing really for the bee's, most of the flowers grown now are the wrong type for the bees as they can't get the nectar out.

[doodle doo]

Originally Posted by JoJo4

look out Den!

Hi doods - not watching it yet, we're watching the athletics, I'll probably watch later so I can FF if necessary - ie every time Ashleigh speaks.

hi jojo it can wait i think

Originally Posted by Denley

Not enough people are interested but cat owners need educating to prevent it, cat bells, curfews and making sure they're fed etc.

There are lots of reasons for the decline in bird numbers but no-one really knows how much is down to cats.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/garden...ddeclines.aspx

I am staunchly anti-pesticides of all kinds.

Declining bee population is far more of a worry. And the biggest single factor in that is overuse of pesticides.



police squad that was brilliant!

I'm not watching BB tonight. Olympics all the way for me.

Yes! Mo Farah wins GLD !!!! Turning into quite a night for GB Olympics, 3 Golds.

my little blossom had a bell until he got too old to bother it's nature though, like cheetahs and small antelopes, not manufactured something-icides.

bb tonight was ok, towards the end when they'd finished repeating.

[Barracute]

Originally Posted by Denley

Not enough people are interested but cat owners need educating to prevent it, cat bells, curfews and making sure they're fed etc.

There are lots of reasons for the decline in bird numbers but no-one really knows how much is down to cats.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/garden...ddeclines.aspx

I am staunchly anti-pesticides of all kinds.

Declining bee population is far more of a worry. And the biggest single factor in that is overuse of pesticides.



police squad that was brilliant!

I'm not watching BB tonight. Olympics all the way for me.

Yes! Mo Farah wins GLD !!!! Turning into quite a night for GB Olympics, 3 Golds.

Thanks for the Athletics updates, wish i'd watched that rather than BB - so boring tonight Great to hear we won 3 golds tonight

[doodle doo]

i still don't understand (and then i'll let it lie) why the alarm was going off and therefore the minute had passed, and both conor and luke pressed the buzzer during the alarm. so neither were within a minute which would mean they both returned to the house and the final prize remained the same.

[Gemo52]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Noone ever controls a cat, thy go out when they want and usually come in when they want and noone is interested in what it does when it's out.

I have a cat living each side of me, they know they aren't welcome and can look out when we see them.

I would think the roads these days kill more animals than ever before, in fact, unless they can fly they are going to get run over.

Either way there's no a good chance of survival.

Bee's are probably declining because of a couple of reasons.

One being that most of the land now is agriculture, nothing really for the bee's, most of the flowers grown now are the wrong type for the bees as they can't get the nectar out.

Research has shown pesticides are responsible for the decline in bees.

[doodle doo]

Originally Posted by Gemo52

Research has shown pesticides are responsible for the decline in bees.

there was a bit on countryfile that said the same, and they had a farmer who let a part of his field (some path down the side next to a hedge) to a beekeeper who set up some hives.

i get the impression pesticides are becoming unpopular even with farmers.

and gemo, i need a chicken in my kitchen to eat the slugs soon as they appear i never realised they ate them.

[Denley]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Noone ever controls a cat, thy go out when they want and usually come in when they want and noone is interested in what it does when it's out.

I have a cat living each side of me, they know they aren't welcome and can look out when we see them.

I would think the roads these days kill more animals than ever before, in fact, unless they can fly they are going to get run over.

Either way there's no a good chance of survival.

Bee's are probably declining because of a couple of reasons.

One being that most of the land now is agriculture, nothing really for the bee's, most of the flowers grown now are the wrong type for the bees as they can't get the nectar out.

Declining habitats, varroa mite's (here from asia in the last 20 yrs) and pesticides are the three pronged attack on bees causing colony collapse in bees in Britain. At least we can do something about two of those through our own behaviour.

Bee "friendly" plants in our gardens, no pesticides, introduce wild habitat back to areas of farm land, the mites will need another solution.

Cat owners can be eductated, many do stop their cats going out at sunset and sunrise etc. It's a message that needs to get through.

Originally Posted by doodle doo

hi jojo it can wait i think



my little blossom had a bell until he got too old to bother it's nature though, like cheetahs and small antelopes, not manufactured something-icides.

bb tonight was ok, towards the end when they'd finished repeating.

It is nature but there has to be a balance. Cats predate birds, bird numbers are hugely declining so cat owners should be educated to know what they can do to reduce the damage.

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by doodle doo

i still don't understand (and then i'll let it lie) why the alarm was going off and therefore the minute had passed, and both conor and luke pressed the buzzer during the alarm. so neither were within a minute which would mean they both returned to the house and the final prize remained the same.

Big brother didn't want them both back in the house for a start.
BB makes the rules so they can do what they want.
The HM's didn't know how much was on offer till the money stopped counting anyway.

Originally Posted by Gemo52

Research has shown pesticides are responsible for the decline in bees.

Blame the farmers then, and if they don't use it there won't be any food anyway.

But they don't use pesticides when trees/plants are in flower, so what is the pesticide on?

[doodle doo]

Originally Posted by Denley

It is nature but there has to be a balance. Cats predate birds, bird numbers are hugely declining so cat owners should be educated to know what they can do to reduce the damage.

is it just cats though? i could see maybe if many more people own cats now than, say, 20 years ago? i'm not sure that's true though because in the 80s we had lots of cats in our garden but also masses of starlings.

could there be other contributory things like concreting over front gardens, development of fields on the outskirts, new developments not having long back gardens like house plots used to (because then they can fit more houses in), and a bit of a lack of trees in town generally because they cause subsidence to buildings.

i don't mind being corrected, but i'm not sure whether the decline of birds is down to one thing i.e. cats. the bees reason sits better, to me, because that's massive areas covered in chemicals.

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by Denley

Declining habitats, varroa mite's (here from asia in the last 20 yrs) and pesticides are the three pronged attack on bees causing colony collapse in bees in Britain. At least we can do something about two of those through our own behaviour.

Bee "friendly" plants in our gardens, no pesticides, introduce wild habitat back to areas of farm land, the mites will need another solution.

Cat owners can be educated, many do stop their cats going out at sunset and sunrise etc. It's a message that needs to get through.



It is nature but there has to be a balance. Cats predate birds, bird numbers are hugely declining so cat owners should be educated to know what they can do to reduce the damage.

Not sure how the pesticide effects the bees?

I have a few flowers that the bees like, but i mainly grow what i can eat.

And educating cat owners isn't going to happen.

[Denley]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Big brother didn't want them both back in the house for a start.
BB makes the rules so they can do what they want.
The HM's didn't know how much was on offer till the money stopped counting anyway.


Blame the farmers then, and if they don't use it there won't be any food anyway.

But they don't use pesticides when trees/plants are in flower, so what is the pesticide on?

Pesticides stay in the soil Hicky, in the air and on any vegetation. Different plants flower at different times, the bees might not be after the sprayed crops themselves but they still have to travel through sprayed areas.

It's not a case of blaming farmers, they are supplying food for a demand, but we're biting the hand that feeds us. Organic is the way everyone should go because without bees we're all buggered. No bees, no food. It's quite a stark choice really.

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Gemo52

’d affernoon.



I’m just watching my recordings of Aussie Masterchef and I’m feeling warmth and affection for all the contestants, could it be that the British like bitching and denigrating others and so TV caters for this need, but Australians are more tolerant and don’t feel the need to criticize. Just a thought. I wish I’d seen Australian BB to see if I like their contestants.

I saw it, and in just one series there was open racism from various people against various "races", deliberate nastiness against poor people, deliberate nastiness against rich people, homophobia and double the amount of bitching. It was great.


I keep losing the connection so i am doing one post at a time. (again)

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Gemo52

Not my cats, and my chucks deal with slugs and snails.

Good job you dont live next door to Hicky.

[Denley]

Originally Posted by doodle doo

is it just cats though? i could see maybe if many more people own cats now than, say, 20 years ago? i'm not sure that's true though because in the 80s we had lots of cats in our garden but also masses of starlings.

could there be other contributory things like concreting over front gardens, development of fields on the outskirts, new developments not having long back gardens like house plots used to (because then they can fit more houses in), and a bit of a lack of trees in town generally because they cause subsidence to buildings.

i don't mind being corrected, but i'm not sure whether the decline of birds is down to one thing i.e. cats. the bees reason sits better, to me, because that's massive areas covered in chemicals.

Decline of birds isn't solely down to cats doods. Or even he biggest problem but when numbers are in decline, every little will help. Including bird tables safe from cats, feeding during winter, providing water source etc. Harsh winters, reduced habitats, viruses & diseases etc (see the link) but no-one really knows what the biggest problem is but they'll all contribute.

Originally Posted by Denley

http://www.rspb.org.uk/advice/garden...ddeclines.aspx

Even so, they will account for several million dead birds each year because of the cat population in this country.

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Domestic Cats kill 200 million Birds a year but no-one is interested.

There are less cats and less birds now. Cats are not the primary cause of bird death (and it is nature, same as any meat eater )

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Domestic Cats kill 200 million Birds a year but no-one is interested.

How many are you killing with your pellets?

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by Denley

Pesticides stay in the soil Hicky, in the air and on any vegetation. Different plants flower at different times, the bees might not be after the sprayed crops themselves but they still have to travel through sprayed areas.

It's not a case of blaming farmers, they are supplying food for a demand, but we're biting the hand that feeds us. Organic is the way everyone should go because without bees we're all buggered. No bees, no food. It's quite a stark choice really.

I don't follow you sorry.

What flowers, you don't get fields of flowers.
A few gardens isn't going to keep a hive of bees going.

If pesticide was in the air it would only be for a few minutes, the wind would move it, can't see it bothering anything flying.