(sorry I had to do a cull to fit mine in)

Familiar as in witches' familiars? Hubble bubble toil & trouble & all that jazz.


Ooh look a gratuitous excuse to watch Luke's entry VT again. Why thank you. http://youtu.be/SgELDgMegvc

He does mention his favourite hobby's going to the gym and you see him doing a bit of iron pumping (a shot he went on to describe as cheesy! ) My guess is he got so intimidated by all the supposedly "beautiful people" in there he didn't feel like joining in with their workouts.

I suppose when you're trans you grow up with this idealised image of what you ought to look like. Body sculpting must be as big a part of transitioning as hormones and surgery. The balance is deciding how far to take it. I don't think Luke would suit being too muscular. He's very nicely proportioned as it is.

I hope he doesn't beat himself up too much over any re-scarring. It must be very frustrating to put himself through all that and end up not much better off. If he's destined to be scarred, that seems a small price to pay to become the person he knows he is.


Thanks but unfortunately that's easier said than done. Mum's housebound and it's not a good idea for me to leave her for longer than is absolutely necessary.

Oh well, all you missed out on is discovering what a crashing bore I am in real life!

That's the kind of thing you say five years down the line though, not when it has just happened.





Nooooooooooo! That is obviously not true. I guess we all hope we sound a bit cooler in print than we actually are in person but you don't fool anyone: you are obviously incapable if being bad company.

Thank you for posting , it's strange watching that back he looks so different now. If anyone's interested I've put together a page full of Luke clips from the show http://www.dailymotion.com/LukeAnder...e#video=xuetsn.

If anyone's interested I want to send Christmas cards, so if you want me receive one off me then please could you send me your address, if you don't I won't be offended and I don't expect anything back in return .

Well that was kind of addictive even though I have watched the moth attack about 120,000 times already.


Well I have FINALLY got round to buying some cards today - only because I found a church selling some as I am trying to keep a large distance between me and any shop at all between now and Christmas. I would love to send a card to any of this appreciation thread who are not on witness protection programmes.

Good idea about the cards. I keep being tempted to join in with the card thing but (a) I don't fancy sending 600 cards if I get an avalanche and (b) if I say please PM me your address and NOBODY bothers I'll feel like crawling into a hole. Anyone who would like a card from me please send me your address and I'll return the favour. Would you prefer on DS or facebook?

Thanks everyone

The card idea is a very nice thought but I am only sending to family this year - I am donating the money I save on the cards and the postage (so expensive!!!) to Age UK in order that some older people can be given a better Christmas than they would otherwise have received. Lovely idea though

I assure you I'm not, promise :P.


I don't mind either , I'll send you a PM on here .


That's a lovely idea .

Yes, good thinking. I'm still hoping to send a few cards to people here though. I must admit I am being a bit wary on facebook because there are too many people.

I used to work for a company years ago that had an actual rule that each employee must send a card to every other employee. I guess it was supposed to be good for morale. The result was that people sent cheaper and cheaper cards, actively seeking out the Object of Pity range in pound shops. Not that that has anything to do with either us or the facebook group, but it did make me think that mass mail outs can be counter productive.

Facebook, definitely. It's driving me mad having to delete messages every time I want to send or receive one.

That's why I asked

May I just say I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and a healthy, happy and good 2013.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!!!

Same to you, Jean.

I was pondering the question of verified twitter accounts when someone asked Luke the other day why he isn't verified. (You can't ask to be; some twitter big cheese has to decide you are important enough). As far as I can see, the only BB twitter accounts that are verfied are Brian Dowling, kate Lawler, Imogen Aisleyne, Josie and Sam Pepper. It obviously doesn't relate to number of followers: Gerry has nearly 320,000 and isn't verified; I found a restaurant (https://twitter.com/ShoreClub) that never tweets at all, has hardly any followers, but is considered influential enough to be verfied. Anyway, it looks as if Luke was right in what he said: they don't rate recent BB winners (or housemates) however many followers they get. Not that it matters, I just think the whole thing is odd.

Further to a post I did, hmmm, some time ago, here are some more tweets; this time from 6th July (beginning of week 4) to 10th July. Eek, that is only five days. It takes quite a while though to find ones that relate to Luke and chuck out a lot of really dull stuff along the way.


6-7 10.15am: They're up. Luke S has made sure his six pack is still there.

1.14pm: Adam is lying on the floor while Lauren shows him how agile she can be. #bbuklive

12.20am: Deana reckons that Luke S is a robot. Her impression of him greeting Ashleigh, "Hi babe" is special

2.38pm: Ashleigh's still dwelling on her dream from last night. And now Luke A is fessing up to a slightly smutty dream he had.

7-7 12.37am: Luke A and Lauren are having a heart-to-heart. They're finding nice stuff to say about Arron.

1.30am: Lauren and Luke A have a very interesting plan up their Blue sleeves.

10.23am: Very interesting conversation between Sara and Luke A. She tells him she finally knows who to trust.

1.43pm: Conor's breezing his sausage-breath at Luke A who looks like he might keel over and die at the pong.

1.45pm: Luke A scoffs white onion and prepares to gust his breath down a tube at Shievonne's nostrils. She's clearly terrified.

1.52pm: Luke A's face is actually indescribable as he receives a blast of pickled onion 'au Conor'. 'Pained' doesn't cover it.

2.01pm: As Luke A breathes chicken korma at her, Shievonne flails like a doll trapped in a wind tunnel. Quite a spectacle.

2.50pm: Luke A is called to the Diary Room by Big Brother. He's hoping he'll get a photo of his wife as requested.

4.19pm: Luke A and Lauren are talking about the kisses you get off your nan. Awww.

5.10pm: Lauren, Luke A, Ashleigh and Sara are discussing how they popped their cherries. Guess who lost it in the sand dunes?

5.30pm: A small but attractive 'Luke A Appreciation Society' has formed in the garden. Members: Lauren, Sara and (natch) Luke A.

8-7 1.27am: A fuming Adam is now venting to Insiders Luke A and Lauren. Elsewhere, Conor has put a carrot down his trousers.

10.25am: Lauren's having a little understated weep. She feels alone. 'You've got me and Adam', Luke A reminds her

12.09pm: Sara's favourite food is risotto, while Luke A would settle for a cheese sandwich #imaginative

8.30pm: Deana and Luke A have just finished up a hardcore bonding session. Bonding not bondage. Minds out of the gutter.

9-7 12.42pm: Lauren, Adam and Luke A are talking about self-pleasure in the garden

12.53am: Luke A would be "scared" to have relations with Sara. We're sure the feeling's mutual.

1.15am: Adam, Luke A and Lauren are debating the big questions. Chris Tucker or Chris Rock? Who would you choose?

.29am: Luke A and Adam are chatting about culture from before Lauren's time. "You're showing your age," she says. The cheek.

1.42am: All the HM's are in bed, apart from Lauren, Luke A and Adam who are chatting away into the night.

Breaking news – Ashleigh is quitting the cigs. When quizzed by Lauren and Luke A, Ashleigh revealed that a bad dream about black lungs had prompted her decision, but she may still have one or two when she drinks alcohol.

4.22pm: Adam has revealed his Achilles heel. Maggots.

8.13pm: Caroline tells Deana she 'couldn't bear to spend another minute with Luke A' and she's 'never known anyone so artificial'

8.35pm: Caroline's now sounding off about Luke A to Becky. She's on a serious mission this evening.

10.38pm: Shievonne's telling Deana that certain people (implying The Outsiders) are stirring and haven't got her back.

10.53pm: Caroline says: 'I find it physically disgusting that people think they'd rather live with Luke A than Conor'.

11.38pm: Caroline, Shievonne and Conor are complaining about Sara, Luke A and Deana. It's a three-pronged gossip.

10-7 1.01am: Ashleigh: "Something just crawled up my leg!" Well, if you will climb into bed with Luke S...

1.19am: Deana is soothing Lauren by improvising a story about peacocks and 'foxes kissing their cubs'. Potential literary genius.

1.58am: We'll leave the usual suspects (Lauren, Luke A, Adam) chatting in the Smoking Area and see you in the morning. Toodle-oo!

4.27pm: Luke A has vowed to get an orange spray tan tonight. Will he do an 'Alex' from last year?

6.28pm: Caroline just asked Conor: "why am I stuck with all these losers?" We don't know Caroline, you tell us.

Why don't they let whoever does the tweets decide what goes into the main show? It's a lot more interesting than the stuff they decide to show.

Ah Jean, thanks for blowing the cobwebs off the thread (although excuse me if I don't say the MC words until this time next week. ) I haven't exactly been in a conversation-starting mood recently.

Mario Mugan and Sunshine from BB11 are also verified and they're hardly high profile now. I know Mario had a bit of a problem with bogus accounts in his name so that might be part of the reason why they verified him. I think it involves getting someone who is already verified to vouch for them.

Of course Mario found the down side of a BB housemate getting verified is it attracts loads of comments along the lines of "what's a nobody like you getting verified for?"

It's like on here. All ex-HMs have the right to get their account authenticated but lots choose not to do so. I guess some like the security of us knowing they're genuine, others like to blend into the group and if we work out they're HMs then so be it.

Thanks for going to the trouble of dredging up those Tweets. Oh dear, the start of the hardcore character assassination against Luke.

Oh dear. It is extra horrible if things are not good in december because we have no daylight and an awful air of compulsory jollity.



Oh. Curiouser and curiouser. Sunshine has far fewer followers than Luke, and Mario about the same, but is surely less well known generally.


It was a bit of a grim week. Sheivonne was really bad that week and the turf war task brought out all kinds of nastiness.

Anyone know where all these new people on the LA group have come from? It's lovely to have new members but it seems strange such a long time after Luke won BB. I hope they play nicely.

So do I but they do seem to be genuine fans ....... so far!!

To anyone who is going to have a rotten Christmas (like me!), I do hope things get better soon. That is, of course, if we are still here after Friday! I think the Mayans are wrong though

I think he's just put the word out on twitter. I always hope new members are legit; not that there is anything untoward about anyone looking at photos of peoples' christmas trees etc, but it is important that people feel safe there as they often put quite personal things as well.

Aw, Jean, I'm sorry if things are not going well for you this year. Part of the secret of Christmas is to force yourself to ignore all the hype and look for small pleasures imo. Otherwise it can seem like one massive rubbing-your-nose-in-things.

It does seem odd that all of a sudden around 40 people have just turned up from nowhere. I wonder if maybe they've arrived from another BB group or something. I'm just an old cynic and wondering if there's a number of them hoping to get a boost for the next civilian BB. No doubt time will tell.

It can be difficult at Christmas because there's this massive hype around it as if everyone else is having a fabulous time but of course that's not true.

I hope everyone here on DS has the best holiday that they can and sincerely hope that whatever difficulties they may have work out better than they hope.

Luke made a status on his facebook page asking people to join the group, shortly before the influx of new members. I presume he wants to replace the ones who have recently left.

Ah right. Thanks hulakula

I'm usually quite an upbeat person but this year it feels as though everything is getting on top of me! Mainly it is family and I am feeling that they don't care. I will get over it.