[KidPoker]

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Jimmy Savile accused of sexually assaulting girls on ITV1 documentary

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ording-1218690

The Mirror are reporting that numerous victims have came forward to confirm what has been rumoured for many, many years for a new documentary.

[zx50]

If true, this makes you wonder why he had an injunction for.

[KidPoker]

They must have very strong evidence and reliable witnesses / victims to air it so close to his 1 year anniversary.

[CLL Dodge]

Originally Posted by KidPoker

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ording-1218690

The Mirror are reporting that numerous victims have came forward to confirm what has been rumoured for many, many years for a new documentary.

I'm sure they were well paid.

[kingjeremy]

So all his victims and all the witnesses keep quiet until a couple of mud raking attention seeking media whores turn up to make a show about him. They wait until he's dead before coming out with all this, how very convenient.

How come the police aren't involved? Y'know the norm for serious child sex abuse cases.

[The Sack]

Originally Posted by KidPoker

They must have very strong evidence and reliable witnesses / victims to air it so close to his 1 year anniversary.

He's dead, they probably need **** all evidence.

[kingjeremy]

Oh yeah I can see that.

Judge: Hey Jim mate, what d'ya want a super injunction for?
Jimmy: I want to stop all the children I raped from talking about it?
Judge: Oh sure Jimmy no problem!
Jimmy: Thanks, how old is your daughter again?

Super injunctions stop people talking to the press, actually, they stop the publication of said talked about incidents, they do not stop the victims of child abuse reporting their crimes to the police.

Absolutely ridiculous.

[ILoveMyDog]

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[Essex Angel*]

Originally Posted by kingjeremy

Oh yeah I can see that.

Judge: Hey Jim mate, what d'ya want a super injunction for?
Jimmy: I want to stop all the children I raped from talking about it?
Judge: Oh sure Jimmy no problem!
Jimmy: Thanks, how old is your daughter again?

Super injunctions stop people talking to the press, actually, they stop the publication of said talked about incidents, they do not stop the victims of child abuse reporting their crimes to the police.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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[i4u]

Originally Posted by KidPoker

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ording-1218690

The Mirror are reporting that numerous victims have came forward to confirm what has been rumoured for many, many years for a new documentary.

Looks like a re-hash of a story printed last January but that time it was the BBC.

[Betty Britain]

Typical British media ... Destroy a mans reputation when he can't answer for himself ...

[i4u]

Originally Posted by kingjeremy

Oh yeah I can see that.

Judge: Hey Jim mate, what d'ya want a super injunction for?
Jimmy: I want to stop all the children I raped from talking about it?
Judge: Oh sure Jimmy no problem!
Jimmy: Thanks, how old is your daughter again?

Super injunctions stop people talking to the press, actually, they stop the publication of said talked about incidents, they do not stop the victims of child abuse reporting their crimes to the police.

Absolutely ridiculous.

You do wonder if people can read, from the article....

It also looks into complaints about the star which were made to police in 2007

Also, has the 'super injunction' story been fabricated, when was it obtained and has anyone a link to a source?

[Nobby Burton]

The media like to use 'paedophile' as a blanket term for anyone who has sex with an underage girl, even though sleeping with a 14 or 15 year old is not paedophilia

Unless Jim was trying to get 11 or 12 year olds into bed, i'll see it as a bit of a non-story

[John Ferrier]

Originally Posted by i4u

You do wonder if people can read, from the article....



Also, has the 'super injunction' story been fabricated, when was it obtained and has anyone a link to a source?

You cannot get a source as they cannot be reported but i'm inclined to believe there was one in existence until its death.

[John Ferrier]

Originally Posted by kingjeremy

Oh yeah I can see that.

Judge: Hey Jim mate, what d'ya want a super injunction for?
Jimmy: I want to stop all the children I raped from talking about it?
Judge: Oh sure Jimmy no problem!
Jimmy: Thanks, how old is your daughter again?

Super injunctions stop people talking to the press, actually, they stop the publication of said talked about incidents, they do not stop the victims of child abuse reporting their crimes to the police.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Wrong a super injunction can stop people talking to the police, if you are banned from discussing an incident ect then that means with everyone, there is no exception unless stipulated by the issuing judge.

[JCR]

Originally Posted by KidPoker

They must have very strong evidence and reliable witnesses / victims to air it so close to his 1 year anniversary.

You can't libel the dead. For example Frankie Boyle's current tour has an extended bit where Michael Jackson is described as a demon paedophile sent from hell to ruin childrens lives. It's unsubtle by Boyles standards and unlikely he'd be saying it if MJ was in a position to sue.

The dead belong to history and you can say anything you like about them: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4630243.stm

[Simon Rodgers]

How come this has come about AFTER he died?

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by JCR

The dead belong to history and you can say anything you like about them: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4630243.stm

I wish that ITV1 and The MIrror would "belong" in the same way then. Such dispicable muck raking that serves no purpose whatsoever anymore, whatever the case. As it happens, I don't believe a word of it for one moment. Pure, evil, nasty muck raking by the trash end of the media, full stop.

If this was half serious it would have been done years ago. It wasn't, because it isn't. That's my gut instinct, and I trust it.

[elnombre]

As someone who knows a few child abuse survivors I find it very odd that these particular individuals would rather have their stories aired on primetime ITV1 basically for people's sick titillation and muck raking once the alleged perpetrator has died rather than seeking some measure of justice or closure in the intervening years.

[Futurespect]

Originally Posted by Nobby Burton

The media like to use 'paedophile' as a blanket term for anyone who has sex with an underage girl, even though sleeping with a 14 or 15 year old is not paedophilia

Unless Jim was trying to get 11 or 12 year olds into bed, i'll see it as a bit of a non-story

One of my many Press bugbears.

Though ephebophilia shares much of paedophilia's repugnance, it's not officially a disease. And with high variance in world norms, I think it's an interesting area of debate. It doesn't sit well with me on an emotional level because the young may be vulnerable, but it is biologically approved.

Importantly, we're talking about the difference between an otherwise harmless manchild and a warped psyche.

From the Theroux doco, I had the impression JC was smothered by his mother's love and couldn't find anyone to match up to that. It's quite easy to fashion a link between a lonely, middle-aged man in a position of power and classical objects of desire; of a yearned-for past that never was. The truth's anyone's guess, however well-informed.

[Richard1960]

Originally Posted by John Ferrier

Wrong a super injunction can stop people talking to the police, if you are banned from discussing an incident ect then that means with everyone, there is no exception unless stipulated by the issuing judge.

A super injunction did not stop the outing of Ryan Giggs did it!,i am sure if these allegations had any substance in them the press would have found a way of outing Jimmy Saville, whilst he was still alive and able to defend himself.

I cannot believe a super injunction would stop the police investigating if a crime was suspected,they could always have gone to a judge to get it partially lifted in any case.

I am uncomfortable with the fact the man cannot defend himself now.

[DiamondDoll]

Originally Posted by kingjeremy

So all his victims and all the witnesses keep quiet until a couple of mud raking attention seeking media whores turn up to make a show about him. They wait until he's dead before coming out with all this, how very convenient.

How come the police aren't involved? Y'know the norm for serious child sex abuse cases.

Originally Posted by elnombre

As someone who knows a few child abuse survivors I find it very odd that these particular individuals would rather have their stories aired on primetime ITV1 basically for people's sick titillation and muck raking once the alleged perpetrator has died rather than seeking some measure of justice or closure in the intervening years.

Agreed.

There is no injunction, super or otherwise, than can stop anyone reporting a crime to the police.

I'm very suspicious about 'victims' crawling out of the woodwork now.

[Nesta Robbins]

Mail has the story too .......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Seventies.html

I hope the fact the alleged claims are beginning to get a public airing, mean people will finally start asking questions.

[neo_wales]

All these 'victims' speaking up now the chap is dead, its all a load or rubbish and none of it can ever be proven now he's not here to stand up in court.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by Nesta Robbins

Mail has the story too .......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Seventies.html

I hope the fact the alleged claims are beginning to get a public airing, mean people will finally start asking questions.

It's awful to say this but I get the impression the Daily Mail read this thread and copied the Mirror article..the Mail's article is almost word for word the same.

I find it odd all the reasearch has supposedly been done, interviews conducted yet according to all the articles the programme is yet to be commissioned by ITV.

With their cheque books wouldn't the Sun, Mirror or Mail have sown this story up ages ago?