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Old 06-08-2012, 21:15
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I've been taken a-back by the powerful, harrowing but utterly brilliant domestic violence story that we're currently seeing play out with mentally unstable Kirsty and helpless Tyrone. The writing has been top notch as we've seen how Kirsty's volatile family background has moulded her into someone with extreme issues surrounding trust, self consciousness and control. We've seen how incidents have triggered varying emotions within Kirsty and how this causes her to lose control and lash out. Her love for Tyrone is unquestionable as is his devotion to her and baby and this is what sets this storyline apart. There are many different shades of grey and Kirsty is not some calculating pantomine villain who likes dominance but simply a damaged and fragile soul who can't get to grips with her psychological maladie. The realistic and character-driven writing combined with brilliant acting by Natalie Gumede (who has certainly earned her stripes in such a short space of time) and Alan Halsall have made this storytelling of a different callibre. Tonight's emotional scenes between Kirsty and Tyrone as they tearfully bid farewell to one another summed up how enthralling and thought-provoking this plot has been. There have been some excellent storylines in other soaps this year (Heather's murder, Ian's mental breakdown, Lynsey's Nolan's murder, Sandy being abused by Ashley etc.) but in my eyes this one has been head and shoulders above all these. Does anyone else agree?
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Old 06-08-2012, 21:29
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I completely agree with you. Without a doubt this has been my favourite soap storyline of this year and I can't see how it can be topped.

The acting has been top notch and the whole story has just drawn me in. Like you say, Kirsty isn't just a pantomime villain like Richard Hillman or Tony Gordon. She is so much more complex and I find I am sympathising with both Tyrone and Kirsty. It's not been as simple as Kirsty = evil and Tyrone = victim.
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:23
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ok not for me the best stroyline of 2012 peter carla leanne fall out
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:27
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I completely agree with you. Without a doubt this has been my favourite soap storyline of this year and I can't see how it can be topped.

The acting has been top notch and the whole story has just drawn me in. Like you say, Kirsty isn't just a pantomime villain like Richard Hillman or Tony Gordon. She is so much more complex and I find I am sympathising with both Tyrone and Kirsty. It's not been as simple as Kirsty = evil and Tyrone = victim.
I just hope that the writers don't do a U-turn and turn her into some cliched soap villain, killing her off in some "explosive" exit. It would completely torpedo the extensive work that's gone into developing the complexities of the relationship.
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:29
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100% agree with you.
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:35
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ok not for me the best stroyline of 2012 peter carla leanne fall out
While I love thos characters, I felt that the storyline came perilously close to repetition with Peter messing up, Leanne blowing her top and Peter grovelling. Carla and Peter's break away will benefit that whole arc hugely as they featured very prominently and some would argue too much.
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:40
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ok not for me the best stroyline of 2012 peter carla leanne fall out
The Peter-Carla-Leanne-Simon has to be the storyline of 2012.

From the day both Peter and Carla got it together, it was magical - they are absolutely suited to one another and with great chemistry between them.

Chris Gascoigne alone is a very underrated actor in my book.

That said, Alan Hansel himself is a top and an underrated actor - modest bloke too.
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:53
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I still wonder if the baby is Tyrone's and that is why she has this problem. Guilt!
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:53
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The Peter-Carla-Leanne-Simon has to be the storyline of 2012.

From the day both Peter and Carla got it together, it was magical - they are absolutely suited to one another and with great chemistry between them.

Chris Gascoigne alone is a very underrated actor in my book.

That said, Alan Hansel himself is a top and an underrated actor - modest bloke too.
His work- particularly in the last two years- has been supreme. When he's given the opportunity to showcase his talents, he always steps up to the mantle. Through Molly's death, the revelation of her affair and now the domestic abuse storyline, Alan Halsall has been superb. He deserves some credit at the BSA methinks...
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:56
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His work- particularly in the last two years- has been supreme. When he's given the opportunity to showcase his talents, he always steps up to the mantle. Through Molly's death, the revelation of her affair and now the domestic abuse storyline, Alan Halsall has been superb. He deserves some credit at the BSA methinks...
I don't begrudge Jason at all as I like the guy, but would it be nice if Tyrone and Maria got back together, full circle and had children?
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Old 06-08-2012, 22:56
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I still wonder if the baby is Tyrone's and that is why she has this problem. Guilt!
Yes, I'm not so sure too...

And the overlooked Doctors already did a similar storyline to great effect.
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Old 06-08-2012, 23:02
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His work- particularly in the last two years- has been supreme. When he's given the opportunity to showcase his talents, he always steps up to the mantle. Through Molly's death, the revelation of her affair and now the domestic abuse storyline, Alan Halsall has been superb. He deserves some credit at the BSA methinks...
while i think he been good he not been as great as jane danson or alison king the effect of the storyline since the tram been outstanding
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Old 06-08-2012, 23:06
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I can't say as yet because I have no idea where this is all going. Has she actually been sacked from the plod as the last I heard she was suspended under investigation, then she's in underworld then battering Tyrone. I mean she was pregnant 5 mins after meeting him.

There is no doubt its been good acting all round, but its all been a bit of a weird journey with her so far.

Is she going or staying.
If she is going will Ty get the baby, do they kill her off.
If not what about the baby, she has no friends on the street, she is not likeable or has any hidden niceness about her.

She is an interesting character but I can't see her staying in the long term to be honest, Ty is a well loved unlucky in love idiot and I don't think people will accept her. The ideal solution is for Ty to get the baby, she is killed off & they shack him up with Fizz for a perfect family with 2 unlucky idiots who seam well rooted in the street.
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Old 06-08-2012, 23:11
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I actually hate this storyline.

I can see them taking it down the sensational route eventually with Kirsty becoming a full on panto villain or something. It's getting more ridiculously contrived with every episode already.
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Old 06-08-2012, 23:25
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I've been taken a-back by the powerful, harrowing but utterly brilliant domestic violence story that we're currently seeing play out with mentally unstable Kirsty and helpless Tyrone. The writing has been top notch as we've seen how Kirsty's volatile family background has moulded her into someone with extreme issues surrounding trust, self consciousness and control. We've seen how incidents have triggered varying emotions within Kirsty and how this causes her to lose control and lash out. Her love for Tyrone is unquestionable as is his devotion to her and baby and this is what sets this storyline apart. There are many different shades of grey and Kirsty is not some calculating pantomine villain who likes dominance but simply a damaged and fragile soul who can't get to grips with her psychological maladie. The realistic and character-driven writing combined with brilliant acting by Natalie Gumede (who has certainly earned her stripes in such a short space of time) and Alan Halsall have made this storytelling of a different callibre. Tonight's emotional scenes between Kirsty and Tyrone as they tearfully bid farewell to one another summed up how enthralling and thought-provoking this plot has been. There have been some excellent storylines in other soaps this year (Heather's murder, Ian's mental breakdown, Lynsey's Nolan's murder, Sandy being abused by Ashley etc.) but in my eyes this one has been head and shoulders above all these. Does anyone else agree?
Totally agree with you. This story has been brilliantly told (not contrived at all). The acting has been superb from the two players. I still feel great sympathy for the character of Kirsty in some kind of weird way.
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Old 06-08-2012, 23:38
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[quote=sheila blige;60202376]Totally agree with you. This story has been brilliantly told (not contrived at all). The acting has been superb from the two players. I still feel great sympathy for the character of Kirsty in some kind of weird way.[

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Don't particularly feel sympathy for Kirsty, but feel it has been very well acted and you can feel Tyrone's confusion, well done Alan - did they say Natalie is on some telly programme tomorrow morning - I'll tape that (sorry record)
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Old 06-08-2012, 23:45
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His work- particularly in the last two years- has been supreme. When he's given the opportunity to showcase his talents, he always steps up to the mantle. Through Molly's death, the revelation of her affair and now the domestic abuse storyline, Alan Halsall has been superb. He deserves some credit at the BSA methinks...
He's improved so, so much in the past couple of years I think. Before the Kevin and Molly reveal I never particularly rated him as a dramatic actor but post-Molly's death and now during this Kirsty storyline he's really come into his own.
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Old 07-08-2012, 00:19
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Yes, I'm not so sure too...

And the overlooked Doctors already did a similar storyline to great effect.

I agree. I think Coronation Street has done a nice job with the plot line, but it seems like there have been a rash of female on male domestic violence story-lines lately. I think the Doctors one was better acted (Owen Brenman played it with a more convincing mix of anger and humiliation), although Tyrone staying with Kirsty and taking it for so long is more convincing than Heston staying with Marina considering Kirsty is having his baby. It didn't make sense at all for Heston to stay with Marina for so long.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:08
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I can't say as yet because I have no idea where this is all going. Has she actually been sacked from the plod as the last I heard she was suspended under investigation, then she's in underworld then battering Tyrone. I mean she was pregnant 5 mins after meeting him.

There is no doubt its been good acting all round, but its all been a bit of a weird journey with her so far.

Is she going or staying.
If she is going will Ty get the baby, do they kill her off.
If not what about the baby, she has no friends on the street, she is not likeable or has any hidden niceness about her.

She is an interesting character but I can't see her staying in the long term to be honest, Ty is a well loved unlucky in love idiot and I don't think people will accept her. The ideal solution is for Ty to get the baby, she is killed off & they shack him up with Fizz for a perfect family with 2 unlucky idiots who seam well rooted in the street.
This is the last thing that I would like to see happening. Fiz and Tyrone have both had doomed marriages which have shaped them into different individuals entirel. When they were last seeing each other, it was just a silly teenage fling. The writers shouldn't revisit this...

I'm still a bit dubious as to why they've suddenly put Maria and Jason back together again. The only reason I can think of is that they want to build an alternative family unit around Jason's character with Maria and young Liam.

I actually hate this storyline.

I can see them taking it down the sensational route eventually with Kirsty becoming a full on panto villain or something. It's getting more ridiculously contrived with every episode already.
I don't find it contrived in the slightest. All of Kirsty's outbursts have made so much sense in terms of what we know about her personality and background.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:46
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I actually hate this storyline.

I can see them taking it down the sensational route eventually with Kirsty becoming a full on panto villain or something. It's getting more ridiculously contrived with every episode already.
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:02
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Is Kirsty left now for good ? Or she back
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:10
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She'll be back at the end of the month.
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:24
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She'll be back at the end of the month.
oh..still pregnant i bet..longest pregnacy in soapland this one..she beats Lola from EE lol
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Old 08-08-2012, 13:43
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I imagine that she'll be giving birth pretty much straight away after her reappearance as they've already filmed the birth scenes.
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Old 08-08-2012, 13:50
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I actually hate this storyline.

I can see them taking it down the sensational route eventually with Kirsty becoming a full on panto villain or something. It's getting more ridiculously contrived with every episode already.
As someone who was in a abusive marriage for several years i dont find this contrived in the least. Its very very true to form for what its like to be in that kind of relationship and both actors have performed brilliantly.
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