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Old 30-11-2004, 09:25
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This is something that has been puzzling me since last night. In EE last night Ronnie received a cheque for £22,000.00 compensation for being stabbed. Who did he get this from? This happened in Hollyoaks with Steph Dean too when she got her cheque for being attacked by Toby Mills. Again who gave her this cheque? Was it from Toby's "estate"?
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Old 30-11-2004, 09:35
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Originally Posted by Goldilocks
This is something that has been puzzling me since last night. In EE last night Ronnie received a cheque for £22,000.00 compensation for being stabbed. Who did he get this from? This happened in Hollyoaks with Steph Dean too when she got her cheque for being attacked by Toby Mills. Again who gave her this cheque? Was it from Toby's "estate"?
It comes from the taxpayer.
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Old 30-11-2004, 09:37
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It might be his final paycheque along with his P45
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Old 30-11-2004, 09:45
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It's what he's going to be paid per episode not to speak.
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Old 30-11-2004, 09:47
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Originally Posted by PamelaL
It comes from the taxpayer.
Confused now, cause (as far as I know) that doesn't happen here in Ireland. Does the government automatically write someone a cheque or do you have to file a claim for compensation?
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Old 30-11-2004, 09:48
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Criminal injuries compensation unit (as written on the top of the letter!!)
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Old 30-11-2004, 09:53
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Got me curious now though..... just found this which seems to explain a few things!
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Old 30-11-2004, 09:59
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Originally Posted by Purity
Criminal injuries compensation unit (as written on the top of the letter!!)
Didn't see EE last night read about his cheque on the BBC website Its good that you can be compensated by the government for something that happens (sometimes) through no fault of your own but can result in you loosing a lot of money through having to take time off work etc. For all the skanks out there though I'm sure there are people who scam the system. Are there checks in palce to make sure you didn't set up a beating etc to happen by a friend and then you split the money? Gosh I am cynical this morning.
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:05
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I was thinking that last night, almost worth the pain to get £22,000 out of it!

Does this mean that Little Mo can get compensation for Grahams rape?

Why didn't Trevor sue Little Mo when she hit him with an iron? Why didn't Sonia get compensation when Martin killed her fiance come to that!? Or Martin when Sarah stabbed him? Did nobody sue over the EE fairground??

When you start thinking about all the injuries in soaps the list just goes on and on and on..........
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:21
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Aww bless, that is Sods Law...Ronnie gets a cheque for being stabbed after all that mortgage heart ache
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:27
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Did the bloke that stabbed Ronny get caught?

Surely they dont get any cash unless the bloke is tried and found guilty - therefore kind of lessening the chances of someone pulling a fast one (you arent gonna go down for attempted murder for a share of £22k are you!)

My mate got some form of compo when we were at school (although the details are very hazy!) some kid took his footy boot of during a match and slapped him accross the face with it...sounds like something Ronny would enjoy doing to Tariq at the mo (well before the big kiss n make up last night)
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:33
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Originally Posted by Jumpy
Aww bless, that is Sods Law...Ronnie gets a cheque for being stabbed after all that mortgage heart ache
I hadn't thought of that! Oh the irony!!
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:37
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Originally Posted by Hutchie
Surely they dont get any cash unless the bloke is tried and found guilty - therefore kind of lessening the chances of someone pulling a fast one (you arent gonna go down for attempted murder for a share of £22k are you!)
I can see the logic, but surely it would be a bit unfair if you could only claim compensation if they caught the criminal. Imagine if two men were stabbed, both lost a kidney, both lost their jobs and their homes but only one man was caught therefore one victim was ok whilst the other ended up on the streets.

And what about bomb victims? Surely you get compensated if you get caught in the blast regardless of whether or not the bomber is caught?
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:39
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More googling led to this site which states:

"If you have been violently assaulted and suffered a personal injury then even if there is no conviction or if your assailant is unknown you can make a claim for damages. The Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority was established to administer compensation for victims of violent crime in the UK. To qualify for an award you must have suffered an injury either physical or psychological which caused you to visit a doctor at least twice and from which you did not recover for at least 6 weeks."

It also gives an award list:

"The Value of an award

Fatal £10,000
Multiple facial fractures £10,000
Rape £7,500
Loss of one eye £25,000
Fractured Jaw £5,000
Displaced broken nose £2,000
Loss of one tooth £1,500
Fractured rib £1,000
Fractured tibia £3,000 "

So if someone could pop over and break my nose, that's Christmas paid for!
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:51
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Originally Posted by Purity
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So if someone could pop over and break my nose, that's Christmas paid for!
I'll break your nose if you fracture my jaw.
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:57
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Dispalced broken nose? so if your nose is only broken you get nothing? Have to question the £10,000.00 for a fatal injury (and it will be useful up at the pearly gates) and the same amount for a broken arm and finger?
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Old 30-11-2004, 10:58
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calm down dear its just a commercial
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Old 30-11-2004, 11:03
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Originally Posted by Roland butter
calm down dear its just a commercial
Oh but I'm frantically organising a move to live in England where I will suffer any of the above injuries( except for the fatal one thats going a tad too far I think) and get my lovely claim and then skip off happily back to the Emmerald Isle.
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Old 30-11-2004, 11:32
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You also have a factor in the additional money you'd get for loss of earnings. So, if you can blag your way through the first interview for a £100,000 a year job, get a broken jaw and not be able to go for another interview, you could always try to claim for future loss of earnings on that job too!
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Old 30-11-2004, 18:54
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Rape £7,500?? If Lil Mo claimed for that for everytime that happened she'd be a millionaire by now.
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Old 30-11-2004, 19:11
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also the cost of a civil case can cost more than compensasion if win
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Old 30-11-2004, 19:21
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I looked at this thread and thought I might be able to tell you something, but alas- I haven't done this area of law yet.

NB- If you trespassed on someone elses land and fell down a hole in their garden you could sue them!
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Old 30-11-2004, 19:31
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An aquaintance of mine just got a VERY large amount of criminal compensation for being run over. It is MUCh larger than Ronnie received so it seemed pretty realistic for him to get £22,000.
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Old 30-11-2004, 19:37
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You have to be of good character yourself to receive an award from the CICA. If you have a criminal record you are unlikely to get any award at all.

The full facts of any incident have to be reported for a decision to be made. If there is suspected collusion, it will be reported as an attempted fraud.

Rather bizarrely, I know two people who received compensation even though their alleged abuser was found not guilty in a crown court trial.
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Old 30-11-2004, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Bossyboots
You have to be of good character yourself to receive an award from the CICA. If you have a criminal record you are unlikely to get any award at all.

The full facts of any incident have to be reported for a decision to be made. If there is suspected collusion, it will be reported as an attempted fraud.

Rather bizarrely, I know two people who received compensation even though their alleged abuser was found not guilty in a crown court trial.
True.

I had a friend who was very severely injured and lost an eye. He had a % of his compensation witheld though because he admitted to being involved in a heated arguement with the guys who attacked him just minutes before.
The CICB said he should have just walked away and he was partly to blame for his own injuries.
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