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Old 20-08-2012, 13:49
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I genuinely think that the overall consensus is that the show has had it's day. Not just The X Factor, but shows like it. The Voice ended up being a relative failure after being hyped up, Superstar was struggling (though that was entertaining because of the constant references to "The Jesuses" and a game I discovered called "what expression is Andrew Lloyd Webber trying to pull off now?"), Big Brother being relegated to Channel 5. I think that's the signifier of a dying genre. The market has been far too saturated. And people are clearly growing weary of the same old tricks.
I think that this is close to the truth of the matter. It has nothing to do with actual content - who the judges are, what acts are on, etc. It's all to do with familiarity breeding contempt.

Big Brother, X Factor
and the ALW shows have all been on nearly a decade and people just get weary. The Voice is nothing new just Fame Academy under another name. Friends of mine who loved these shows have moved on and here am I still watching them but I'm becoming a minority.

I think you can give these shows just so many revamps before you need to give up the ghost. What will replace them is the question the powers that be will be working on even as I type.

As I've said elsewhere - enjoy them while you can ...
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Old 20-08-2012, 15:23
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Anything that we think will bring in better ratings?

Let's look at some days with warm weather on which XF has been broadcast and how they have rated compared to normal episodes.
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Old 22-08-2012, 12:00
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One thing's for certain - if ratings don't pick up, or even worse, actually fall further... then expect something truly outlandish once the live shows start. Something REALLY big, like the replacement of a judge or live from Wembley every week, or something. The only tactic SyCo knows is to make things bigger and bigger.
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Old 22-08-2012, 13:20
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One thing's for certain - if ratings don't pick up, or even worse, actually fall further... then expect something truly outlandish once the live shows start. Something REALLY big, like the replacement of a judge or live from Wembley every week, or something. The only tactic SyCo knows is to make things bigger and bigger.
I think that will happen whatever the ratings are actually.
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Old 22-08-2012, 13:41
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Yeah, I bet the PR team already has pre-written a bunch of shocking scandals for every week.
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Old 22-08-2012, 15:58
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They will pick up once this awful set up audition process is done with.
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Old 22-08-2012, 16:44
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Perhaps SC is hoping his new show 'Food Glorious Food' will do better than XF!!
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Old 23-08-2012, 01:26
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I agree with Wiggins and I think many others do too, predict this series to be down over last years by a margin.
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Old 25-08-2012, 10:18
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Rita Ora's guest judge stint will be shown tonight, and the weather seems back to normal, could this bring in higher ratings?
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Old 25-08-2012, 10:32
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No, Rita Ora is not popular with the majority of public. She is popular with just teenagers and young people in their 20s. She's not a big name to boost XFactors flagging ratings.
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Old 25-08-2012, 10:34
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No, Rita Ora is not popular with the majority of public. She is popular with just teenagers and young people in their 20s. She's not a big name to boost XFactors flagging ratings.
Geri Halliwell did it back in 2010 on the first episode, lifted the viewing figures.
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Old 25-08-2012, 10:38
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Geri Halliwell did it back in 2010 on the first episode, lifted the viewing figures.
Gerri Halliwell is a much bigger name than Rita Ora. She was part of one of the biggest girlbands of all time, loads of UK No. 1's and lots of No. 1's around the world. She might not be the best singer but shes a big name that nearly everyone has heard of. I cant say the same about Rita Ora, she might be popular with people under 25yrs but not many other people.
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Old 26-08-2012, 09:28
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Last night was another good show, what ratings do you predict?
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Old 26-08-2012, 09:46
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From the ratings thread:

The X Factor peaked with 10.9m (46%).

Source: Jenny Cummins

Normally Jenny's figures include +1, so it is 1m up week-on-week (average around 9.1m/9.7m therefore), share is identical to last week's peak.
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Old 26-08-2012, 09:51
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I don't really think a peak is a rating... they should just report the averages to be honest.
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:25
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Last night's episode 2 of X Factor draws 8.4m (36.1%),
300k up on launch. More soon
+1 added 475k (2.2%) this week #xfactor

http://twitter.com/tvratings

Up 200k in total.

I don't really think a peak is a rating... they should just report the averages to be honest.
Interesting only up 200k week on week, they cant use good weather as an excuse this week.
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:28
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Last night's episode 2 of X Factor draws 8.4m (36.1%),
300k up on launch. More soon
+1 added 475k (2.2%) this week #xfactor

http://twitter.com/tvratings

Up 200k in total.



Interesting only up 200k week on week, they cant use good weather as an excuse this week.
im surprised they got this many, i got bored and switched off, not good at all
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:39
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im surprised they got this many, i got bored and switched off, not good at all
It's not a lot compared to the same episode last year.
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:41
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It's not a lot compared to the same episode last year.
do you know what last years figures were.?
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:44
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do you know what last years figures were.?
Same episode last year (27th August)

20:00- The X Factor: 10.6m (42.8%)
* 5-min peak: 12.0m
* exc. +1: 10.1m
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:44
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Dire yet again. A wounded beast now.
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:45
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It could improve when bootcamp/judges houses come along, though at this rate, seems unlikely.

Peak is pretty good, average isn't. But does it really matter when the average is quite low but the peak is quite high? For example, the peak for the final in 2009 was 19 million, average was around 15 million.
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:49
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It could improve when bootcamp/judges houses come along, though at this rate, seems unlikely.

Peak is pretty good, average isn't. But does it really matter when the average is quite low but the peak is quite high? For example, the peak for the final in 2009 was 19 million, average was around 15 million.
thanks for that. im not sure if it will get better. but i will plod along with it till i see who is on live shows,
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Old 26-08-2012, 10:57
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Don't think a 36% share is very good either. Hopefully, as with previous years, the show picks up as it enters bootcamp.
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Old 26-08-2012, 11:10
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36% says it all... some years ago they had around the 40-45% of the audience every day.

The bad weather is exactly showing that last week's results weren't because of the good weather.
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