[Unigal07]

I reported a disgusting, racist, xenophobic, hate filled feed by some nasty American bloke who said he'd wished Fabrice Muamba had died on the pitch when he found out he was black

Twitter just told me to ignore it because that person had the right to his opinion.

Twitter's admin/mod people are an absolute disgrace.

[The Dove]

Originally Posted by Saltydog1955

'Free speech'? What utter bolloxs from Twitter.

If Tong was to say that to Gary's face, he'd be reported for a hate crime. Writing hate via the medium of the internet should be no different.

No it's not. If Twitter starts banning accounts on the grounds of bad taste comments then where do they draw the line? The comments are cruel and distasteful but they're not a hate crime.

Originally Posted by JasonWatkins

There isn't much that shocks me or gets to me nowadays, but this behaviour is truly vile. He can't hide behind a "social experiment" excuse with this - not at all. I've just reported his feed to Twitter as well.

And i've just alerted the Met to his profile, as well as volunteering to put my name to an official police complaint if it would mean action being taken. This is the met's official Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk

Waste of police time.

Originally Posted by Saltydog1955

Disturbing though Tong's Tweets are this on Twitter is far worse. Goes to show where their priorities lie, and if it takes Syco being notified to get an account with child porn pictures on it taken down, what will it take to remove Tong's account?

http://cheeseford.net/blog/?p=533

Yes and spamming Twitter with complaints about the likes of Tong is why staff don't have time to take quicker action on stuff like this which really needs to be investigated.

[lexi22]

Originally Posted by The Dove

Yes and spamming Twitter with complaints about the likes of Tong is why staff don't have time to take quicker action on stuff like this which really needs to be investigated.

Well no, that's not true, and I'm surprised you'd say that. There's a specific route for child/abuse porn reports (as mentioned at the link), and what's happening elsewhere with random trolling shouldn't impact at all upon the speed at which the former are dealt with. There's no excuse whatsoever for the delay in dealing with that incident referred to in Louis Barfe's blog piece.

[Nicola32]

OMG I have just read this guys tweets and I am totally appalled that any human being could be so completely heartless and cruel.

What the hell is wrong with the guy???

I really hope he gets what he deserves!!

Vile..Vile...VILE individual!!

[decobelle]

Originally Posted by The Dove

No it's not. If Twitter starts banning accounts on the grounds of bad taste comments then where do they draw the line? The comments are cruel and distasteful but they're not a hate crime.



Waste of police time.



Yes and spamming Twitter with complaints about the likes of Tong is why staff don't have time to take quicker action on stuff like this which really needs to be investigated.

Come on - it's not like KT is tweeting Gary Barlow and calling him a t*at or some such patheticness. He is tweeting pictures of a child's coffin to a man who has just lost a child. He is directly copying him in on disgusting tweets making fun of the fact that his baby is dead. I don't want a world where this is OK and Twitter tells us all to stop being so sensitive. Yes, we can block but Gary Barlow couldn't have known these comments would be there before he read them. Imagine how you would feel up on reading this after losing a child? There is a line, and Kenneth Tong has crossed it. Digital Spy doesn't allow users to make comments like that as they don't want those views to be a reflection of their website. Twitter should be the same, draw the line here and ban this guy.

[Louise_Wood]

Originally Posted by decobelle

Come on - it's not like KT is tweeting Gary Barlow and calling him a t*at or some such patheticness. He is tweeting pictures of a child's coffin to a man who has just lost a child. He is directly copying him in on disgusting tweets making fun of the fact that his baby is dead. I don't want a world where this is OK and Twitter tells us all to stop being so sensitive. Yes, we can block but Gary Barlow couldn't have known these comments would be there before he read them. Imagine how you would feel up on reading this after losing a child? There is a line, and Kenneth Tong has crossed it. Digital Spy doesn't allow users to make comments like that as they don't want those views to be a reflection of their website. Twitter should be the same, draw the line here and ban this guy.

I totally agree decobelle, the guy is absolutely evil. I really hope he happens to walk into the end of a fist, if he is out and about is Glasgow.

[JamieMacdonald]

I said on Twitter earlier that he's just attention seeking and not to hate the **** just pity him and his sad life.

Disgusting comments

[The Dove]

Originally Posted by lexi22

Well no, that's not true, and I'm surprised you'd say that. There's a specific route for child/abuse porn reports (as mentioned at the link), and what's happening elsewhere with random trolling shouldn't impact at all upon the speed at which the former are dealt with. There's no excuse whatsoever for the delay in dealing with that incident referred to in Louis Barfe's blog piece.

No, my point stands. If Twitter staff didn't have to spend time sending replies to people who haven't bothered to read the Ts and Cs they'd be free to deal with real complaints faster. As for any delay in removing illegal content.

Originally Posted by decobelle

Come on - it's not like KT is tweeting Gary Barlow and calling him a t*at or some such patheticness. He is tweeting pictures of a child's coffin to a man who has just lost a child. He is directly copying him in on disgusting tweets making fun of the fact that his baby is dead. I don't want a world where this is OK and Twitter tells us all to stop being so sensitive. Yes, we can block but Gary Barlow couldn't have known these comments would be there before he read them. Imagine how you would feel up on reading this after losing a child? There is a line, and Kenneth Tong has crossed it. Digital Spy doesn't allow users to make comments like that as they don't want those views to be a reflection of their website. Twitter should be the same, draw the line here and ban this guy.

Digital Spy is a privately owned site and can can set it's own conditions of use, as well as being limited by UK law.

Twitter can also set it's own rules within the limits of US law. I don't think you realise how highly Americans value freedom of speech and while Tong's comments are certainly an abuse of that freedom, if Twitter censors one account on the grounds of taste then they have to apply that policy across the board.

Twitter is a useful tool for social activism and opponents of groups using it would love nothing more than a chance to have accounts closed. It's not worth losing that for an idiot like Tong.

In case anyone gets the idea I'm defending Tong's remarks, there are a few words I'd use to describe him rather than 'idiot', but I'm respecting Digital Spy's rules on profanity.

[The Dove]

Originally Posted by Louise_Wood

I totally agree decobelle, the guy is absolutely evil. I really hope he happens to walk into the end of a fist, if he is out and about is Glasgow.

The irony is you could be accused of incitement to violence with that post. I understand how you feel, but do you see how slippery the slope of censorship is?

[decobelle]

Originally Posted by The Dove

No, my point stands. If Twitter staff didn't have to spend time sending replies to people who haven't bothered to read the Ts and Cs they'd be free to deal with real complaints faster. As for any delay in removing illegal content.



Digital Spy is a privately owned site and can can set it's own conditions of use, as well as being limited by UK law.

Twitter can also set it's own rules within the limits of US law. I don't think you realise how highly Americans value freedom of speech and while Tong's comments are certainly an abuse of that freedom, if Twitter censors one account on the grounds of taste then they have to apply that policy across the board.

Twitter is a useful tool for social activism and opponents of groups using it would love nothing more than a chance to have accounts closed. It's not worth losing that for an idiot like Tong.

In case anyone gets the idea I'm defending Tong's remarks, there are a few words I'd use to describe him rather than 'idiot', but I'm respecting Digital Spy's rules on profanity.

Then twitter is most certainly not the place for me. Sorry, but there's a big difference between freedom of speech and maliciously harassing a bereaved parent. I don't think many Americans would disagree with that.

[The Dove]

Originally Posted by decobelle

Then twitter is most certainly not the place for me. Sorry, but there's a big difference between freedom of speech and maliciously harassing a bereaved parent. I don't think many Americans would disagree with that.

It's too bad you feel that way because you're cutting yourself off from a lot of useful information because of an.......well, I'll just call him an idiot again.

As I said before, Kenneth Tong will pay a heavy price for his Tweets because they will always follow him. I think that's a better punishment than losing his Twitter account and having his comments whooshed away.

[i4u]

Strange how Twitter which has commercial links to NBC notified NBC of a message and how to complain about it.

Twitter can be procative when it wishes to be.

It's nought to do with fredom of speech Twitter is a commercial buisness not a public service.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by The Dove

It's too bad you feel that way because you're cutting yourself off from a lot of useful information because of an.......well, I'll just call him an idiot again.

As I said before, Kenneth Tong will pay a heavy price for his Tweets because they will always follow him. I think that's a better punishment than losing his Twitter account and having his comments whooshed away.

He's been there before, so his messages following him means nought to him.

Who knows, he may have a bet that he can trend on twitter.

[Ricky_Leeds]

strange how this vile creature is not following anyone but has plenty of followers.

people saying its a waste of police crime, The troll who said that nasty comment about Tom Daley's father was arrested even though i do not think his tweet was as bad as these tweets or they are at least on the same level so i think they definitely should investigate and at the very least caution him and ban him for social media.

[decobelle]

Originally Posted by The Dove

It's too bad you feel that way because you're cutting yourself off from a lot of useful information because of an.......well, I'll just call him an idiot again.

As I said before, Kenneth Tong will pay a heavy price for his Tweets because they will always follow him. I think that's a better punishment than losing his Twitter account and having his comments whooshed away.

I think I'm just too nice for Twitter! I can live without the information and insights from Tong and the countless others like him. There are plenty more information sources on the internet that would not allow idiots like Tong to bring others down.

[UrMyStar]

He used to be on here http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/member.php?u=409758

[Semierotic]

Originally Posted by Ricky_Leeds

strange how this vile creature is not following anyone but has plenty of followers.

people saying its a waste of police crime, The troll who said that nasty comment about Tom Daley's father was arrested even though i do not think his tweet was as bad as these tweets or they are at least on the same level so i think they definitely should investigate and at the very least caution him and ban him for social media.

But it was ridiculous the guy who tweeted Daley was arrested.

The problem seems to be that the Police don't really know how to handle Twitter. It's this increasingly huge thing that's (rightfully) out of their control.

[The Dove]

Originally Posted by i4u

He's been there before, so his messages following him means nought to him.

Who knows, he may have a bet that he can trend on twitter.

How does he make a living? I'd never heard of him before but the Big Brother connection must mean he's some low-level showbiz type. Comments like the ones he made aren't going to get him far in the industry. No matter where he appears, or what he does, he's always going to be be the guy who did the Tweets about Gary Barlow's dead child. Actually when I put it like that I have to wonder if the man has some sort of mental problems.

Originally Posted by decobelle

I think I'm just too nice for Twitter! I can live without the information and insights from Tong and the countless others like him. There are plenty more information sources on the internet that would not allow idiots like Tong to bring others down.

I use Twitter to send Tweets which Scientologists find really offensive. I would say that I'm campaigning against an organisation which causes harm and helping to educate members of the public. Scientologists say I'm a vile troll who is insulting their religion. Which side should Twitter take?

If Twitter shuts down Tong's account because his remarks are upsetting to Gary Barlow will they have to censor any account which asks legitimate questions surrounding the death of Jett Travolta?

[decobelle]

Originally Posted by Semierotic

But it was ridiculous the guy who tweeted Daley was arrested.

The problem seems to be that the Police don't really know how to handle Twitter. It's this increasingly huge thing that's (rightfully) out of their control.

Which is why twitter need to take some responsibility. I don't think it's necessarily right that the police be involved - twitter need to take a firmer stand on people posting seriously offensive and/or dangerous messages. There are real people manning twitter and they should be able to use their discretion. If they get a tonne of complaints about a particular user then they should personally review it and take action if necessary. They are hurting themselves in the long run by not doing so.

[Semierotic]

Originally Posted by The Dove

How does he make a living? I'd never heard of him before but the Big Brother connection must mean he's some low-level showbiz type. Comments like the ones he made aren't going to get him far in the industry. No matter where he appears, or what he does, he's always going to be be the guy who did the Tweets about Gary Barlow's dead child. Actually when I put it like that I have to wonder if the man has some sort of mental problems.

It's very weird watching someone destroy their reputation for the rest of the life in real time. It's like seeing a car crash in slow motion.

[decobelle]

Originally Posted by The Dove

How does he make a living? I'd never heard of him before but the Big Brother connection must mean he's some low-level showbiz type. Comments like the ones he made aren't going to get him far in the industry. No matter where he appears, or what he does, he's always going to be be the guy who did the Tweets about Gary Barlow's dead child. Actually when I put it like that I have to wonder if the man has some sort of mental problems.



I use Twitter to send Tweets which Scientologists find really offensive. I would say that I'm campaigning against an organisation which causes harm and helping to educate members of the public. Scientologists say I'm a vile troll who is insulting their religion. Which side should Twitter take?

If Twitter shuts down Tong's account because his remarks are upsetting to Gary Barlow will they have to censor any account which asks legitimate questions surrounding the death of Jett Travolta?

That depends, He is not asking legitimate questions. Would you tweet John Travolta and Kelly Preston personally to ridicule them over the loss of their child? I have seen previous posts of yours on here and I doubt you would. It should be down to twitters discretion to utilise their right to ban users as they see fit. I bet you get a lot of support regarding your tweets, KT has had nothing but outrage and abuse, and calls for his expulsion, quite rightly because they are vile and in no way constructive. By allowing him to continue to tweet in this manner they are basically condoning his words. I am not normally up in arms about this sort of thing, and never suffer 'mock outrage' but I am genuinely appalled that they are allowing him to do this. If he started shouting the exact same comments at the top of his voice in a place where 200,000 people could hear him you can et he would be swiftly removed. The internet should be no different. I don;t think he should be arrested...just removed!

[Semierotic]

My guess is we'll see a lot more of this in the future. It's the internet equivalent of going on a shooting spree: you ruin your life by hurting others for a few moments of notoriety. For a some oddballs that's too much to resist.

[Flukie]

Who the hell is kenneth tong? Sounds like yet another talentless nobody desperate to be 'famous' whoever he is.

[sheila blige]

Originally Posted by Flukie

Who the hell is kenneth tong? Sounds like yet another talentless nobody desperate to be 'famous' whoever he is.

Exactly Flukie. I've no idea who he is and I've no intention or curiosity to see what he's 'twittering on' about anything. I think if everyone ignored him - he'd go away - eventually.

[JCR]

I don't know why anyone is surprised by this; it's going to happen every single time something upsetting happens to a celeb and that is the nature of the beast. Police and threats of punishment won't help because as with the Fabrice Muamba-Liam Stacey case the people doing the tweeting are often drunk or high.

I recommend not reading twitter.