[Bingethink]

Originally Posted by Robbie01

From Y Viva Espana in 1974 to D.I.S.C.O. in 1980 to La Dolce Vita in 1983 to Live Is Life in 1985 to Saturday Night by Whigfield in 1994.

All bloody awful records, like this latest pap, though. Congratulations to UK radio for ignoring it.

[kev]

Originally Posted by Robbie01

Currently number 1 in a few European countries is this little horror

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTnx9sG95w

Gusttavo Lima - Balada Boa

It's great to hear these songs while on holiday but as has been already posted by nobjockey - would you want to listen to it while driving into work in the rain?

Driving to work in the rain probably not - travelling home on a sunny Friday afternoon looking forward to the weekend why not?

In the last few days during the really sunny lunch breaks I've been listening to Sky Radio Summer Hits (Gem 106 Summer Hits would be nice ) and a couple of songs have jumped out as being upbeat cheery summer tunes have been Gusttavo Lima - Balada boa (Tchê tcherere) and Michel Teló - Ai Se Eu Te Pego! Both have been downloaded from YouTube - and are both better than the Auto-Tuned to death and Carley Ray Jepson stuff Kiss have played to death...

[Fizzbin]

Don't be too surprised if this is played in the Olympic Closing concert tomorrow.

The Brazilians will be putting on an 8 minute segment promoting the Rio 2016 games.

[caradio]

I definitely agree about Euphoria by Loreen. If that had a 10 second sample by David Guetta in it, it would have been everywhere. I still can't understand why it didn't get more airplay here.

[Robbie01]

Originally Posted by caradio

I definitely agree about Euphoria by Loreen. If that had a 10 second sample by David Guetta in it, it would have been everywhere. I still can't understand why it didn't get more airplay here.

I think it's called snobbery - radio tends to avoid most music connected to Eurovision. Either that or radio stations wanting to stick to rigid playlists...

[Musicmasterprox]

Originally Posted by Robbie01

I think it's called snobbery - radio tends to avoid most music connected to Eurovision. Either that or radio stations wanting to stick to rigid playlists...

Didn't Capital Playlisted this? Not only that, but they did interview her on The 7pm show.

[Oscar_]

The song is an example of a North Eastern Brazilian genre. There are hundreds of wonderful songs in this and other Brazilian music genres which are worthy of airplay in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The language thing is a drawback though. Other European and Scandinavian countries are more receptive to including Brazilian Portuguese language music within their radio station playlists.

Brazilians have a good approach to music. They take it seriously as an art-form but also recognise that it is about having fun and enjoying life. Their girlies are much more pretty than shabby fatty Brits too.

[Thine Wonk]

Originally Posted by nobjockey

Some songs only work in certain scenarios. I've not got test figures to hand, but I bet this would test like a dog back home.

Would you generally listen to the Macarena, AgaDoo, Las Ketchup or Zorba's Dance at home or in the car? You'll hear them hourly in every holiday resort, but you're in a totally different zone when you're having 2 weeks in the Costa as opposed to driving into work in the rain in Slough.

This song would make most radio listeners switch station when it came on.

And that's the problem with testing, some songs take a few plays and then you really love them. Testing is a part of why UK radio is so uninspiring and bland.

[mikw]

Originally Posted by nobjockey

Some songs only work in certain scenarios. I've not got test figures to hand, but I bet this would test like a dog back home.

Would you generally listen to the Macarena, AgaDoo, Las Ketchup or Zorba's Dance at home or in the car? You'll hear them hourly in every holiday resort, but you're in a totally different zone when you're having 2 weeks in the Costa as opposed to driving into work in the rain in Slough.

This song would make most radio listeners switch station when it came on.

And yet, those songs you mentioned have been played on radio stations plenty of times in the past, 3 of them were massive hits.

So, not only did they NOT make listeners switch off, the listeners also brought the records!

So, beware of test figures, they won't tell you the whole story.

[wns_195]

This is just one big hit abroad that isn't being played much on the radio here. It won't be the only one. There are probably a lot of songs (not just from this year) that bring back memories for people but are not played on UK radio.

It's interesting that the OP has encountered lots of young people with this song on their phones. Presumably if they can't hear their favourite songs on the radio, they just listen to them on what ever gadgets they have.

Spotify is also growing, empowering young people so what they listen to isn't up to a radio station.

The tightening of playlists is an admission that radio stations can't keep the attention of their audiences. Gadgets and services that let people choose what songs to listen to are the future.

[Ennerjee]

There's been a lot snobbery on UK radio, especially the BBC when it comes to foreign languages. A lot of good stuff has been ignored over the years.

Although Radio 1 did promote stuff such as Plastique Bertrand, Vanessa Paradis, Désirée and rubbish like "Da Da Da", most of the good artists wouldn't be accepted until an English version was released compounding the situation where English people are ignorant of languages. In those countries where English lyrics are airplayed the citizens quickly become familiar with, and are able to have a grasp of, the English language.

Being insular and arrogant about foreign lyrics does the UK no good.

[Thine Wonk]

I blame this testing mentality that station management push. Sometimes things grow on you and then become really big. UK commercial radio is far to 'safe' and far too bland.

[ultrabox]

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

This is the biggest dance hit of the summer this year in lots of holiday resorts but I have yet to hear it on UK radio!

I think folks would enjoy hearing hits like the one below on UK radio reminding them of their holidays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcm55lU9knw

Michael Telo - Ai se eu te pego

I can understand why this isn't getting the airplay, it's rubbish. I would expect a summer hit to have an upbeat, feel good tempo.

[Ennerjee]

I've just listened to it and realised I'd already heard it in France. It is indeed rubbish !

[wavejockglw]

Whether individuals like or dislike the song is besides the point, all music is subjective and what appeals to one can be hated by others. The point is that this song and others are very popular, have sold millions, been big hits with holidaymakers when they had exposure to them yet are ignored by UK commercial radio.

Youngsters no longer rely on just radio for their music. Most hear a song and go straight to YouTube and get it (perhaps a few buy the MP3 or MP4As) then extract the audio and put it on their mobiles to enjoy whenever they want. They also share their music using bluetooth if they don't have an iPhone!

The mainstream commercial stations have become rather perdictable and safe over the last few years and the range of music played has become far more restricted. The new generation have technology that can deliver what they want when programmers play safe and that should be a concen for those in the UK radio business thinking about how their services will be consumed in the future.

[wckartist]

Originally Posted by wns_195

The tightening of playlists is an admission that radio stations can't keep the attention of their audiences.

Quote of the month, well said!!

Usually by stations where the HOM or PD is either lazy, or does not have a clue........and of course, if the figures are abysmal, they can then blame it on the testing, focus groups, graphs, etc etc yawn, yawn yawn!!


Nothing to do with me guv,is the cry

[simon243]

Originally Posted by wckartist

Quote of the month, well said!!

Usually by stations where the HOM or PD is either lazy, or does not have a clue........and of course, if the figures are abysmal, they can then blame it on the testing, focus groups, graphs, etc etc yawn, yawn yawn!!


Nothing to do with me guv,is the cry

You seem to be under the misguided impression that tight playlists are a new phenomenon.

They're not, of course - tight playlists have been a feature of top 40 radio since it was invented in the US back in the 50s. And if you want an example of seriously tight playlists, look no further than Atlantic 252 20-odd years ago, where the biggest songs repeated at least every 90 minutes.

But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of another anti-Global rant.

[SmartProgrammer]

Originally Posted by wckartist

Usually by stations where the HOM or PD is either lazy, or does not have a clue........and of course, if the figures are abysmal, they can then blame it on the testing, focus groups, graphs, etc etc yawn, yawn yawn!!

Maybe you should sit in on a focus group to give you a better understanding of how it works and how data is interpreted. Simon243 mentioned Atlantic 252 but in fact music research was being carried out on ILR even before 252 launched. You just didn't know about it and you didn't have online forums to slate it....

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by wns_195

The tightening of playlists is an admission that radio stations can't keep the attention of their audiences. Gadgets and services that let people choose what songs to listen to are the future.

The continued use of tight playlists - stretching back 50 years - is the reason why radio audiences remain high, despite the development of technology like cassettes, CDs and Mp3s.

[Fizzbin]

Originally Posted by Fizzbin

Don't be too surprised if this is played in the Olympic Closing concert tomorrow.

The Brazilians will be putting on an 8 minute segment promoting the Rio 2016 games.

Well, I was completely wrong about that!

Shame (almost), as the music they did choose was even worse than Ai se eu te pego

[Black Crow]

Originally Posted by SmartProgrammer

Maybe you should sit in on a focus group to give you a better understanding of how it works and how data is interpreted. Simon243 mentioned Atlantic 252 but in fact music research was being carried out on ILR even before 252 launched. You just didn't know about it and you didn't have online forums to slate it....

So what happens in a music radio focus group, care to explain to those not in the know?

[keicar]

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

This is the biggest dance hit of the summer this year in lots of holiday resorts but I have yet to hear it on UK radio!

I think folks would enjoy hearing hits like the one below on UK radio reminding them of their holidays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcm55lU9knw

Michael Telo - Ai se eu te pego

Because its not very good? (did want to use another four letter word)

Move along now, nothing new here, sounds a lot like another Euro Hit, Opus 'Life Is Life' from 1985, which was superior, but still cr@p!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jy4tMySp5o

[wavejockglw]

Originally Posted by keicar

Because its not very good? (did want to use another four letter word)

Stating 'Its not very good' only qualifies as a personal opinion, there are millions who have spent money to buy the song so they must like it.

The point is that the UK radio audience are not being given much of an opportunity to make their minds up because programmers play safe and are firmly biased against songs not in English. In this instance that is a pity as the song has been very well received by millions of folks visiting Southern Eurpoean holiday destinations. There are other examples that get little or no exposure in the UK for the same reason.

[Bingethink]

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

The point is that this song and others are very popular, have sold millions, been big hits with holidaymakers when they had exposure to them yet are ignored by UK commercial radio..

There have always been plenty of songs that are big abroad and do nothing here - the English language barrier being a big part of why.

Just because they've been played a lot in bars in Fuengerola doesn't mean they're automatically big hits at home. I would have thought that the slow demise of the fortnight's package holiday to the sun would have made the Y Viva Espana-style hit more of a 70s/80s phenomenon. People have more varied holidaying habits today, and can source international music more readily too, should they want to.

[Bingethink]

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

In this instance that is a pity as the song has been very well received by millions of folks visiting Southern Eurpoean holiday destinations.

You're making this stuff up, Wavejock! You have anecdotal evidence that a few kids you know have it on their phones - maybe they love it form holiday and have shared it round. It doesn't follow that 'millions' from the UK have!