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Old 17-09-2012, 22:28
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I think it's because it's new and we don't know how to react. The first step is seeing vulnerable hurting is to take them away from the situation that we think is the cause.

It's a learning curve for everyone because it's new. At the same time why shouldn't vulnerable people take part in life and have all the opportunities we all have, given the chance.
Susan Boyle has a large family of brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews, all of whom live close to her. She has one of the best and most honorable managers in the business, Andy Stephens, arranged for her by her niece, who's an entertainment lawyer in London. She is not managed by Syco's in-house "Modest Management". Last, but not least, after the huge success of her debut album, she and Syco renegotiated her contract, with much more generous terms.

Unlike most pop stars, old and young, she has become a multimillionaire without having to tour. They're knocking themselves out and Subo manages to stay successful with a light schedule geared to her temperament. No worries.
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Old 17-09-2012, 22:38
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I think Susan would make an absolute fortune if she started touring. They'd go mad for her.
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Old 18-09-2012, 08:21
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I think Susan would make an absolute fortune if she started touring. They'd go mad for her.
SuBo tour?? She can't even sing two songs a night three nights a week without a break + the latest that's just come out from the UK, says four/five years time record labels will send all artists out on the road because sales will be nothing by then.
Riri and Subo albums out the same day, Riri will smash her to the ground.
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Old 18-09-2012, 23:03
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BIB - even if it is to her emotional detriment. Strikes me that Susan 'winning' is about far more for her fans than just hearing her sing. She is for them representative of the underdog breaking through for success. It is about the story & how it makes them feel about themselves.

Susan could make a living enough to provide her with what she wants. She doesn't need this level of success to provide her with stability & basic luxuries in life. The money will become (if it isn't already) a burden for her with a parasitic family after it when the media eyes are long gone.

This whole situation has disaster written all over it. I just hope when the fame has gone & she is left abandoned that those adoring her on here learn a lesson. Money & fame don't buy you happiness. Certainly not for someone of limited capabilities/expectations like Susan.

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That is one of the most outrageously prejudiced posts I've ever read on this forum. Seriously, It's appalling, particularly the BiB. I'm genuinely shocked - her family are parasites? The money will become a burden to her? Why? Beacuse she has a very mild LD?

**** me!
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Old 18-09-2012, 23:52
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SuBo tour?? She can't even sing two songs a night three nights a week without a break.
I think this is the problem. Ideally you'd hope she could cope with the pressures of a tour, possibly a fairly relaxed one, but it could possibly come down to the insurance.
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Old 18-09-2012, 23:56
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That is one of the most outrageously prejudiced posts I've ever read on this forum. Seriously, It's appalling, particularly the BiB. I'm genuinely shocked - her family are parasites? The money will become a burden to her? Why? Beacuse she has a very mild LD?

**** me!
I have logged this post & invite you back in 5 years time to discuss what has happened in the intervening period. I have a brother with learning difficulties/involvement with many others over the years. I am talking from experience not looking at a situation through rose tinted spectacles pretending that all is well.
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Old 18-09-2012, 23:58
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I think this is the problem. Ideally you'd hope she could cope with the pressures of a tour, possibly a fairly relaxed one, but it could possibly come down to the insurance.
No way on gods earth would she get insurance for a tour as she is not reliable enough. She just isn't capable of doing a tour which as someone else said is going to be the main earner for artists going forward.
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Old 19-09-2012, 00:14
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sharon osbourne was right you do want to give her a razor and say bitch have a shave lol
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Old 19-09-2012, 07:47
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If she was able to tour, they would have had her out on the road long before now for the cash. Simple as that.....
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Old 19-09-2012, 10:18
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If she was able to tour, they would have had her out on the road long before now for the cash. Simple as that.....
agreed
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Old 19-09-2012, 20:06
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The hatred towards this woman never ceases to amaze me and there's so much of it, from adults, that it's actually frightening.

She has a disability. Compared to some it's mild, granted, but it was enough of a disability to ruin her entire life!

She entered a talent show and things got out of control but that wasn't her fault. She couldn't have foreseen that, it's never happened before and it hasn't happened since.

I ask her critics, what would you have done in her situtation? What do you think she should have done? Should she have gone back to the council house that she lived in fear she'd be thrown out of and where she was afraid to turn on the heat because she didn't think she could pay for it? Live in a constant state of depression and loneliness just because she can't do major concerts and heaven forbid she can't compete with Rhianna? Thrown it all away because she wasn't capable of doing more?

People who can't be happy for her are the people who have a real problem. They're the ones with the major character flaw because they have no heart and no compassion for those less fortunate. They're the people that I pity.

You don't have to love her voice, but my God, do you criticize every singer who you don't like, or is it only her? Can't you just wish her well?
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Old 19-09-2012, 20:11
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Can't you just wish her well?
I think shes an amazing lady, really wish her well. As long as shes happy and safe I hope we continue to hear more from her - its especially nice to see people overseas who love her as it makes a change from people seeing Britain represented by the more unsavoury celebs.
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Old 19-09-2012, 20:14
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She had a breakdown in Burger King a few months back, shouting/crying and using bad words because she did not want to be there.

Well not many people want to go to burger king
Classy bird... so she's got 12 million in the bank but goes to Burger King
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Old 20-09-2012, 01:14
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It is all fiction.

The truth is that Ms. Boyle (real name Lady Hilary McDuff) studied classical singing for six years before touring extensively with the London Philharmonic. She dated several famous tenors and also trombonists, often furtively because most were married. After, a sordid expose with a Latvian trombonist and his instrument McDuff retired and went to live on Orkney.

However, a decade later, the lure of public performance was too great and she had to return, but the only route available to her was to invent a back story that removed all the seediness and replaced it with neediness. Thus, McDuff became Boyle and a un-unravellable story was created by experts from the ministry of defence who were former colleagues of her late father.

The eyebrows, the hair, the tantrums, the alleged learning difficulties, all are part of the elaborate ruse. Her extensive team of advisors, acting coaches and PR people are active constantly, continuously reiterating the agreed back story.

The creation of Susan Boyle is possibly one of the finest marketing achievements ever.
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Old 20-09-2012, 02:12
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A person on the Autism spectrum often has difficulty forging proper relationships with others .. Susan is surrounded by people who are employed by Simon Cowell.. When she stops selling music he will dump her back where she came from.. Sad but true.. He does it to everyone when they have served their purpose
Susan's manager was hired by her, recommended by her niece, a London-based entertainment lawyer. He has no connection with Simon Cowell. It's true that most of Cowell's talent show signees are managed by Syco's "Modest Management", which does seem to be a conflict of interest. Not Subo. Since she already has earned about $18 mill and still has most of it, it wouldn't mean much to her financially if she did leave Sony.

I know some of you hope this ends in tragedy. I can't think why. Susan Boyle was finally given the chance she fought for all her life and she grabbed it with both hands and has made the most of it. Hooray.

BTW, the world (and it is global) has made Susan Boyle the poster girl for Cowell's talent shows. That yes, they can make dreams come true. And that is why his shows are proliferating in country after country. Good God, do you really think he can ever let her go? It's not only that she continues to sell albums, but her continued success is also a continuing PR bonanza for Cowell enterprises.
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Old 20-09-2012, 02:15
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It is all fiction.

The truth is that Ms. Boyle (real name Lady Hilary McDuff) studied classical singing for six years before touring extensively with the London Philharmonic. She dated several famous tenors and also trombonists, often furtively because most were married. After, a sordid expose with a Latvian trombonist and his instrument McDuff retired and went to live on Orkney.

However, a decade later, the lure of public performance was too great and she had to return, but the only route available to her was to invent a back story that removed all the seediness and replaced it with neediness. Thus, McDuff became Boyle and a un-unravellable story was created by experts from the ministry of defence who were former colleagues of her late father.

The eyebrows, the hair, the tantrums, the alleged learning difficulties, all are part of the elaborate ruse. Her extensive team of advisors, acting coaches and PR people are active constantly, continuously reiterating the agreed back story.

The creation of Susan Boyle is possibly one of the finest marketing achievements ever.
Haha. Not bad.
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Old 20-09-2012, 02:26
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i really hope i am wrong, i was only asking if other people had heard anything, she has actually been in ward 1 of that hospital before and it was never reported on the news or anything, even seen her sitting on the street in blackburn in her jammies and cars couldnt get passed, it was awful. she spends a lot of time just walking the streets.

i know this sounds like a load of rubbish but trust me, the women is in a dark place atm.

why its not in the news well, maybe they are trying to keep it quiet or something i dont know.
Yeah, well, apparently no one told Susan. She's just returned from a vacation in Spain (lots of Twitpics) stopped off at the spa at Stobo Castle, went to see Barbara Dickson at the Rep in Dundee and will start promoting her CD #4 in the next couple of weeks and may drop in at a couple of performances of the Musical of her life, which has been touring to packed audiences and excellent reviews since March (Susan is co-producer). Little time for sitting in the street in her jammies,
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Old 20-09-2012, 02:31
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Classy bird... so she's got 12 million in the bank but goes to Burger King
Not only classy, but smart. That's why she still has the 12 mill BP or $18 mill and other singers wind up bankrupt.
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Old 20-09-2012, 02:39
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If she was able to tour, they would have had her out on the road long before now for the cash. Simple as that.....
She and her manager said no. She doesn't like routine and her temperament isn't suited to pop star tours. She sells albums without them. She may some day do a concert or 2 when she feels like it. Carnegie Hall type venues, not arenas. She will always perform, as she did in a random piano bar in Spain, because she's been doing it all her life, but on her terms.
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Old 20-09-2012, 02:41
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No way on gods earth would she get insurance for a tour as she is not reliable enough. She just isn't capable of doing a tour which as someone else said is going to be the main earner for artists going forward.
She will never do it, because she can sell enough without it.
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Old 20-09-2012, 03:40
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Ms. Boyle (real name Lady Hilary McDuff)
Is she friends with Lady Miley McCyrus?
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Old 20-09-2012, 06:35
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She will never do it, because she can sell enough without it.
She couldn't do night after night but she could do the odd few dates.
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Old 20-09-2012, 14:20
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She couldn't do night after night but she could do the odd few dates.
I wouldn't be so sure. I paid 80 for two tickets to see her in the 'I Dreamed A Dream' musical. All she had to do was sing two songs and she never even turned up. She had played two nights at the venue and that was it.

I know she has problems but this has really put me off her. I know the small print said there was no guarantee but still it was shoddy and the show was not worth the money without her.

I hope Rihanna kicks her wiggling butt when they both release albums.
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Old 20-09-2012, 19:39
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Not only classy, but smart. That's why she still has the 12 mill BP or $18 mill and other singers wind up bankrupt.
Give her time... she's a one-trick pony with 'bankrupt' written all over her, then she'll be begging outside Burger King
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Old 20-09-2012, 20:06
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Give her time... she's a one-trick pony with 'bankrupt' written all over her, then she'll be begging outside Burger King
If it's the Burger King where you work, you'll be the first to know.
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