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Old 06-07-2013, 22:49
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Can't understand why the ex-wife is still knocking about, why hasn't she moved on?
Maybe Because they have a son together and she has always tried to help him for his sake ...
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Old 06-07-2013, 23:32
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Alcoholism is a disease that is with a person until the day they die.
I always thought of Alcoholism as an addiction that caused disease or ill health, rather than a disease itself.
I have more sympathy for people who don't inflict things on themselves.
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Old 07-07-2013, 00:14
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It's just all pretty sad.
Are there people who just can't be helped.

Tho I agreed with another poster who said 5 weeks of treatment is just not long enough.
Think the physical side will be dealt with in that time but no way the mental issues
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Who knows what going to happen but sadly I don't think he has it in him to stay permanently sober.
Absolutely agree. It made me furious that he and his cronies lauded his fabulous recovery and return to health. Utter total tosh. The treatment rescued him temporarily from death. The rest of the treatment involving tackling his issues and learning to deal with internal demons was ignored in his scramble to get on the interview circuit and make more money......to piss up a wall when he had bled the media dry of s.
And bang on cue here he is. The next step is the " Please forgive me ! I'm so sorry ....blah blah blah ...." More dosh from interviews and blow it on drink.
The man is an oxygen thief and people (the media) need to stop throwing money at him enabling him to fund his drunken lifestyle.
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Old 07-07-2013, 00:23
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Another George Best
Crikey ! I forgot. I have 10 George Best fivers sent to me ages ago (Birthday present) stashed somewhere.
Some are consecutive numbers too. I must check if they are worth selling on ebay. Might suit someone with two/three Man U mad sons/daughters.
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Old 07-07-2013, 00:31
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Stupid idiot should have stayed in rehab while his friends were paying
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...shop-cctv.html
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Old 07-07-2013, 00:38
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Stupid idiot should have stayed in rehab while his friends were paying
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...shop-cctv.html
The way he's going, he is very unlikely to make his 50th birthday.

It doesn't matter how much support he has or how much help he gets, unless HE makes the changes then he's doomed.
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Old 07-07-2013, 00:41
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I always thought of Alcoholism as an addiction that caused disease or ill health, rather than a disease itself.
I have more sympathy for people who don't inflict things on themselves.
I agree on the addiction then ill health/disease. But when we KNOW what causes ill health or disease we work at dealing with it . Well, most people do. Clearly Gazza chooses not to . Stupid man.
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:32
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I always thought of Alcoholism as an addiction that caused disease or ill health, rather than a disease itself.
I have more sympathy for people who don't inflict things on themselves.
Do you honestly think people choose to be an alcoholic???
And if you read AA big blue book(their bible) you will find that alcoholism is quite clearly called a disease so the poster wasnt really wrong saying it,it depends how much a person knows about alcoholism,
But I have to agree Paul Gascoigne seems to be beyond help and he's had so many people trying to help-I personally don't think he's hit rock bottom otherwise he'd be defeated and know that finally he needs the help given to him for months,years in fact,I'm afraid that Gascoignes "rock bottom"might be with him at his own funeral though-a shame but some alcoholics cannot see that alcohol has physically and mentally defeated them until its too late
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Old 07-07-2013, 14:48
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I agree Ella, maybe Gazzas "rock bottom " will be at his own funeral. Such a tragic waste of life. Theres thousands of people I am sure that are going through the same thing without the financial help and support that Gazza has received. The only person who can help him now is himself. Very sad....
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Old 07-07-2013, 18:18
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Do you honestly think people choose to be an alcoholic???
And if you read AA big blue book(their bible) you will find that alcoholism is quite clearly called a disease so the poster wasnt really wrong saying it,it depends how much a person knows about alcoholism,
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I know people who are alcoholics. I didn't realise it was a disease. More of an addiction/ mental attitude. ?

Is it labelled a disease so that people can try the sympathy angle to try and cure it. ?
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Old 07-07-2013, 18:26
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I know people who are alcoholics. I didn't realise it was a disease. More of an addiction/ mental attitude. ?

Is it labelled a disease so that people can try the sympathy angle to try and cure it. ?
My mother is an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink for 27 years. She managed to hold down a career as a nurse despite her addiction and thankfully, through excellent help, family support and her own strength of character stopped giving in to her addiction. She has stayed strong and remained strong for more than a 1/4 of a Century but still takes it one day at a time.

To say that people are labelling addiction as a disease to try the sympathy angle is insulting and shows a complete lack of understanding of the nature of addiction.

The vast majority of people drink alcohol, many of them heavily and yet only a small % will become addicts. It's about your own personal make up just in the same way that some people are prone to depression, cancer, heart problems or any other health issue. You don't even have to be a big drinker to be an alcoholic, it's the addiction not the quantity
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Old 07-07-2013, 18:44
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My mother is an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink for 27 years. She managed to hold down a career as a nurse despite her addiction and thankfully, through excellent help, family support and her own strength of character stopped giving in to her addiction. She has stayed strong and remained strong for more than a 1/4 of a Century but still takes it one day at a time.

To say that people are labelling addiction as a disease to try the sympathy angle is insulting and shows a complete lack of understanding of the nature of addiction.

The vast majority of people drink alcohol, many of them heavily and yet only a small % will become addicts. It's about your own personal make up just in the same way that some people are prone to depression, cancer, heart problems or any other health issue. You don't even have to be a big drinker to be an alcoholic, it's the addiction not the quantity

Very well said.
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Old 07-07-2013, 18:56
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To say that people are labelling addiction as a disease to try the sympathy angle is insulting and shows a complete lack of understanding of the nature of addiction.
I accept that some people have the misfortune to become an alcoholic.
I wasn't trying to be insulting, but some people are beyond help and I find it hard to have any sympathy for Paul Gascoigne.
People stick up for Best and Gazza because they were heroes in their sport, when they acted normally.
I do understand about alcoholics, as I have a close relative who is one. Our family isn't convinced they are handling it right,despite everyone trying to help.

Its good that some beat it or get it under control, but I view them like smokers, a lot of it self inflicted.
So to say everyone who has an attitude you don't like is ignorant is also a little insulting.
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Old 07-07-2013, 20:36
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I know people who are alcoholics. I didn't realise it was a disease. More of an addiction/ mental attitude. ?

Is it labelled a disease so that people can try the sympathy angle to try and cure it. ?
all im saying that in the alcoholic anonymous blue bible book alcoholism is called a disease though i don't know the exact words,i wasn't trying to give it a sympathetic angle i was just stating a fact that Alcoholics anonymous believe in
but no you cannot cure alcoholism -you have a daily reprieve from it one day at a time in recovery always keeping in mind step 1-that you were powerless over alcohol-a step that Paul Gascoigne hasn't got that's why he keeps drinking,
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Old 07-07-2013, 20:37
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My mother is an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink for 27 years. She managed to hold down a career as a nurse despite her addiction and thankfully, through excellent help, family support and her own strength of character stopped giving in to her addiction. She has stayed strong and remained strong for more than a 1/4 of a Century but still takes it one day at a time.

To say that people are labelling addiction as a disease to try the sympathy angle is insulting and shows a complete lack of understanding of the nature of addiction.

The vast majority of people drink alcohol, many of them heavily and yet only a small % will become addicts. It's about your own personal make up just in the same way that some people are prone to depression, cancer, heart problems or any other health issue. You don't even have to be a big drinker to be an alcoholic, it's the addiction not the quantity
well said Blondie
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