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Old 13-08-2012, 20:09
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Am i the only one that hates both of these characters as individuals and as a couple?

Both characters have no depth at all, i was expecting Rays character to have alot of storylines considering he was in the army and instead we have had nothing to do with that or his past all we know is that he has a daughter and that his with Kim..

I am actually really dissapointed with the character development of Ray i expected so much more.

As for Kim i know she's only their for the comedy value but the OTT panto acting is just awful and she seems really out of place with all the other characters the way how she just sways around.

As for a couple.. they just don't match at all..

Anyone else feel the same?
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Old 13-08-2012, 20:22
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I hate both characterisation but for other reasons, I feel kim is a bafoon that appeals to the lowest common denominator.And ray and sasha are just mick/kim mcfarlane redux..The show runners havent attempted to integrate these characters into the fold properly one iota..This nonsense with kat was the perfect opportunity to use ray (in the very least) as a red herring but they've eliminated him from the discussion of suspects sharpishly .The character just has no business for being.Hopefully when bianca arrives he takes more of an active role with the butchers
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Old 13-08-2012, 20:37
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I cringe whenever they're on screen togethe.r
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Old 13-08-2012, 20:42
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I like them.

It's nice to have two characters/a couple who aren't involved in constant drama.
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Old 13-08-2012, 20:48
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I cannot stand them. Ray is just a boring, dull man with no depth or personality. Kim's a great comic character but she should be paired with someone else, he's dragging her down.
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Old 13-08-2012, 20:49
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I like them.

It's nice to have two characters/a couple who aren't involved in constant drama.
me too, say it loud and say it proud

I'd rather be a home with Ray & Kimbamazing
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Old 13-08-2012, 20:49
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I have no interest in either of them. Kim is a parody and Ray is a complete wet blanket. Together they are just a joke.
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Old 13-08-2012, 20:57
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Well I for one love them together and find Ray a total breath of fresh air. No dark secret. Not a cheat or a love rat. Nice guy, good dad, and he just happens to be a hottie to boot. That doesn't mean he has 'no depth'. I fail to see how he has any less depth than Alfie, Ian, Max...
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:23
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Well I for one love them together and find Ray a total breath of fresh air. No dark secret. Not a cheat or a love rat. Nice guy, good dad, and he just happens to be a hottie to boot. That doesn't mean he has 'no depth'. I fail to see how he has any less depth than Alfie, Ian, Max...
I agree! Except for the hottie bit. Loved their scene in the Vic kitchen tonight.
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:30
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I'm a fan of both, i hope to see them get a bigger storyline.
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:36
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I love them! They're so funny and uplifting.. Why would you want yet another depressing couple in soap?
Yes there'll probably be some big stories coming though but it's good to have some light relief from them now.

I think it's important to show happiness in soaps. We need to have scenes that show this so we can root for them during the rough times. You need to feel that when they come out of it they'll be able to have the good times. Otherwise there's no point in overcoming an obstacle.. You'd just be in another one straight after
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:46
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I think Kims being ruined. The actress is very very good...and can be a great comedy character ,however they have taken it too fair with the stero-types they are trying to push onto her. As for Ray....he had potential...I just think they don't know what to do with him. I think he would have made a good bad boy :P
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:48
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I love them two together
today kim as always was soo funny
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Old 13-08-2012, 23:06
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Isn't it refreshing having a good guy on the Square for once? Just a good guy, good father, good boyfriend...

And while Kim can annoy me, I think they work well together and he seems to bring out some of her better qualities.
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Old 14-08-2012, 00:07
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I think they are sweet.
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Old 14-08-2012, 03:04
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I used to like Kim but lately been finding her very annoying. Dont like Ray and Kim as a couple, I always find it hard to believe somebody like Ray would put up with her nonsense. Really like Ray and as hoping for a bit more character development for him, finding out about his past - im glad his daughter has been introduced. Originally I thought it'd be a love traingle with Kim and Bianca, but since shes left that put a stop to that idea. Ray and Morgan are really sweet together.
Hopefully Ray will get some big storylines soon, I just wish it was away from Kim. He could do better!
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Old 14-08-2012, 03:22
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For some reason Kim is being shoe horned into big episodes and is just babbling on about crap that no one cares about.
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