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is ee portraying the right way of mental issues?
After tonight show i am not to show how can someone with depression (jean) helps someone who is going through a mentle breakdown(ian.
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Jean is bipolar and why wouldn't she be able to help him in some way?
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I thought that scene was really good, she was the perfect person to help him but in general the fact he hasn't seen a doctor or been helped in some other professional way is really ridiculous.
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Jean is bipolar and why wouldn't she be able to help him in some way?
jean need to cope for herself |
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I think jean would understand ian`s situation better than anyone
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Bipolar disorder or bipolar affective disorder, historically known as manic-depressive disorder so it is some sort of depression
jean need to cope for herself |
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I think the point Jean was making is that there's a lot of ignorance and prejudice around mental illness, which often inhibits people from taking about the issues that affect them. She was trying to reassure Ian that it was OK to admit he'd had a breakdown.
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maybe i just found it disturbing the whole storyline i think it great they doing it but not one of my favour story
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Jean has her mental state under control - she takes her medication, has a nurse she can talk to if needed - and she seems to know when she needs to admit herself to hospital. She can help Ian because she'd know more about the treatment, because she's gone through it all herself.
As for Ian not going to the doctor - do you really think Phil/Ben and Jay want that to happen while he's keeping their secret? They've truly kept him in his own bubble since Phil found out Ian was back. |
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Stephen Fry very famously suffers from bipolar disorder. I would value his advice and input on almost any subject. Just because someone has a mental illness doesnt mean they are useless and should only concentrate on not slitting their own wrists etc
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Jean has her mental state under control - she takes her medication, has a nurse she can talk to if needed - and she seems to know when she needs to admit herself to hospital. She can help Ian because she'd know more about the treatment, because she's gone through it all herself.
As for Ian not going to the doctor - do you really think Phil/Ben and Jay want that to happen while he's keeping their secret? They've truly kept him in his own bubble since Phil found out Ian was back. |
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for now but as shown previous anything can set her of at anytime my worry is if she listen to other people worrie it could set her of
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So how does any of that mean she can't attempt to help Ian in his moment of need?
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my point was she can help him but should she help him
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my point was she can help him but should she help him
One of the worlds foremost professors on bipolar disorder suffers from the illness herself and was sectioned at one time for her own safety. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Redfield_Jamison |
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people who do not suffer with mentle health will just presume stuff but it not suffering with any mentle health issues
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I think they've done it really well and it is very believable that Jean might get him to open up due to her empathy. Many of the others are trying to help but don't really know how, go on we'll get out on the pull-Alfie. Have a glass of champers n will all be ok. Shirley also great and seems to get it...really enjoying this storyline
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I think Adam has played this REALLY well. It shows how good an actor he actually is. I have been a EE fan for 25 years, and I have thought he was...well...a soap actor....but this story line made me go WOW. Seriously intense scenes and great performance from him. I hope he gets a soap award for it.
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Jean is the right person to speak to ian... In having bipolar / depression Jean would have been to that dark place a few times so she would be the right one to speak to him
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Jean is the right person to speak to ian... In having bipolar / depression Jean would have been to that dark place a few times so she would be the right one to speak to him
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I liked the scenes.
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Jean would understand depression from the inside which meant she understood Ian better than most. As she has been hospitalized in the past she would have been with people suffering a variety of illnesses, and at different stages of recovery. She was obviously comfortable with him and was able to penetrate his silence a little.
He should be getting professional help but in the absence of that both Jean and Shirley did a great job tonight. |
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i like Jean she`s got a heart of gold hope her and Ian do more scenes together .
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As someone who has bipolar disorder (as opposed to someone who is bipolar) I've never thought they have shown the illness too effectively. But the way that I saw the scene, Jean identified with the pain and desperation that Ian is feeling due to his breakdown; she just didn't understand the cause.
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im bipolar suffer
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