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Old 13-08-2012, 21:17
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After tonight show i am not to show how can someone with depression (jean) helps someone who is going through a mentle breakdown(ian.
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:27
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Jean is bipolar and why wouldn't she be able to help him in some way?
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:28
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I thought that scene was really good, she was the perfect person to help him but in general the fact he hasn't seen a doctor or been helped in some other professional way is really ridiculous.
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:32
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Jean is bipolar and why wouldn't she be able to help him in some way?
Bipolar disorder or bipolar affective disorder, historically known as manic-depressive disorder so it is some sort of depression

jean need to cope for herself
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:33
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I think jean would understand ian`s situation better than anyone
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:36
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Bipolar disorder or bipolar affective disorder, historically known as manic-depressive disorder so it is some sort of depression

jean need to cope for herself
Stephen Fry very famously suffers from bipolar disorder. I would value his advice and input on almost any subject. Just because someone has a mental illness doesnt mean they are useless and should only concentrate on not slitting their own wrists etc
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:36
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I think the point Jean was making is that there's a lot of ignorance and prejudice around mental illness, which often inhibits people from taking about the issues that affect them. She was trying to reassure Ian that it was OK to admit he'd had a breakdown.
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:36
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maybe i just found it disturbing the whole storyline i think it great they doing it but not one of my favour story
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:37
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Jean has her mental state under control - she takes her medication, has a nurse she can talk to if needed - and she seems to know when she needs to admit herself to hospital. She can help Ian because she'd know more about the treatment, because she's gone through it all herself.

As for Ian not going to the doctor - do you really think Phil/Ben and Jay want that to happen while he's keeping their secret? They've truly kept him in his own bubble since Phil found out Ian was back.
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:37
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Stephen Fry very famously suffers from bipolar disorder. I would value his advice and input on almost any subject. Just because someone has a mental illness doesnt mean they are useless and should only concentrate on not slitting their own wrists etc
i did not know that
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:39
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Jean has her mental state under control - she takes her medication, has a nurse she can talk to if needed - and she seems to know when she needs to admit herself to hospital. She can help Ian because she'd know more about the treatment, because she's gone through it all herself.

As for Ian not going to the doctor - do you really think Phil/Ben and Jay want that to happen while he's keeping their secret? They've truly kept him in his own bubble since Phil found out Ian was back.
for now but as shown previous anything can set her of at anytime my worry is if she listen to other people worrie it could set her of
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:41
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for now but as shown previous anything can set her of at anytime my worry is if she listen to other people worrie it could set her of
So how does any of that mean she can't attempt to help Ian in his moment of need?
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:43
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So how does any of that mean she can't attempt to help Ian in his moment of need?
my point was she can help him but should she help him
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:49
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my point was she can help him but should she help him
that doesn't make sense..
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:52
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my point was she can help him but should she help him
With her personal insight in to mental health issues she is probably well placed to help him. Obviously she isnt a professional but she has had plenty of counselling so knows techniques on how to cope.

One of the worlds foremost professors on bipolar disorder suffers from the illness herself and was sectioned at one time for her own safety. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Redfield_Jamison
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Old 13-08-2012, 21:54
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people who do not suffer with mentle health will just presume stuff but it not suffering with any mentle health issues
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:06
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I think they've done it really well and it is very believable that Jean might get him to open up due to her empathy. Many of the others are trying to help but don't really know how, go on we'll get out on the pull-Alfie. Have a glass of champers n will all be ok. Shirley also great and seems to get it...really enjoying this storyline
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:12
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I think Adam has played this REALLY well. It shows how good an actor he actually is. I have been a EE fan for 25 years, and I have thought he was...well...a soap actor....but this story line made me go WOW. Seriously intense scenes and great performance from him. I hope he gets a soap award for it.
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:18
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Jean is the right person to speak to ian... In having bipolar / depression Jean would have been to that dark place a few times so she would be the right one to speak to him
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:24
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Jean is the right person to speak to ian... In having bipolar / depression Jean would have been to that dark place a few times so she would be the right one to speak to him
She seems to be helping a lot of people lately, including Shirley,Janice :P and Blly . I think it is a nice side to show of Jean. To show just because you have mental health issues doesn't render you completely redundant to the rest of the world.
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:27
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I liked the scenes.
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:35
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Jean would understand depression from the inside which meant she understood Ian better than most. As she has been hospitalized in the past she would have been with people suffering a variety of illnesses, and at different stages of recovery. She was obviously comfortable with him and was able to penetrate his silence a little.
He should be getting professional help but in the absence of that both Jean and Shirley did a great job tonight.
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:37
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i like Jean she`s got a heart of gold hope her and Ian do more scenes together .
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:49
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As someone who has bipolar disorder (as opposed to someone who is bipolar) I've never thought they have shown the illness too effectively. But the way that I saw the scene, Jean identified with the pain and desperation that Ian is feeling due to his breakdown; she just didn't understand the cause.
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Old 13-08-2012, 22:56
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im bipolar suffer
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