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Old 16-08-2012, 19:06
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So Three is already struggling in some regions to provide decent internet speeds due to high demand, but now they offer All You Can Eat Data for even less

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Old 16-08-2012, 19:14
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Three have been on a land grab for some time and if they can't deliver they will simply apply Trafficsense which will throttle high data users depite any promises made at the time of purchace.

All you can eat is an appealing product but it has and continues to be used as a replacement for fixed line broadband by many and 3G inncluding all of the upgrades applied over recent years simply does not have the capacity to deliver that and 3 are well aware of that fact. Others would be doing likewise if it was sustainable but they are being more cautious with data limits they know are deliverable.

The offer will attract customers at the price point for sure but how satisfied they will be and how they affect the others already on the network remains to be seen.
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Old 17-08-2012, 09:08
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giffgaff offer unlimited texts, unlimited data and 250mins talk time for just £10per month so 3 still behind them.
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Old 17-08-2012, 10:03
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giffgaff offer unlimited texts, unlimited data and 250mins talk time for just £10per month so 3 still behind them.
Which would be fine if you live in a town or city, but the 3G coverage outside is dreadful. I'm on O2 at the moment and I'm moving when my contract is up as there are just too many places that don't have 3G.
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Old 17-08-2012, 14:12
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giffgaff offer unlimited texts, unlimited data and 250mins talk time for just £10per month so 3 still behind them.
Actually you can get it for £9.90pm by adding the AYCE to the £6.90pm 12 month deal. Then get £50 cashback from TCB = a theoretical £5.70pm

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/200-...-three-1289337
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Old 17-08-2012, 14:37
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Actually you can get it for £9.90pm by adding the AYCE to the £6.90pm 12 month deal.
I was looking at this earlier, but the advisor I spoke to said that the AYCE add-on for this plan was £5 for 30 days, effectively £11.90 pm for AYCE.
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Old 17-08-2012, 17:42
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I was looking at this earlier, but the advisor I spoke to said that the AYCE add-on for this plan was £5 for 30 days, effectively £11.90 pm for AYCE.
The £5 is a 30 day rolling add on.

The £3 is the full contract term (12 months) add on that can be added to any existing contract.
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Old 17-08-2012, 18:36
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So Three is already struggling in some regions to provide decent internet speeds due to high demand, but now they offer All You Can Eat Data for even less
Why do you link the two?

High demand isn't going to vanish because people don't have unlimited data (when the networks dropped unlimited data, the average amount that people use still went up - purely because people are finding more and more ways to use data on the go).

This is why Orange, T-Mobile and Three have decided to bring it back.

It's just a simple fact that in any one area, there will be a finite amount of capacity.
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Old 17-08-2012, 18:43
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The £3 is the full contract term (12 months) add on that can be added to any existing contract.
In which case I'm having some of that! My son uses a shedload of data watching Youtube on the school bus - £9.90 a month is well worth it.
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Old 17-08-2012, 19:19
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In which case I'm having some of that! My son uses a shedload of data watching Youtube on the school bus - £9.90 a month is well worth it.
I've spoken to customer services and they told me i can add it on. It's worth asking the customer service team (not the sales team) if you can. You can always cancel due to mis-selling if three say they can't do it after you order the sim.
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Old 18-08-2012, 10:48
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Why do you link the two?

High demand isn't going to vanish because people don't have unlimited data (when the networks dropped unlimited data, the average amount that people use still went up - purely because people are finding more and more ways to use data on the go).

This is why Orange, T-Mobile and Three have decided to bring it back.

It's just a simple fact that in any one area, there will be a finite amount of capacity.
I was making the point that they already struggle to deliver in some areas, then make unlimited data available for even less to attract more people, which will just make it worse.

So not sure what you are trying to say.
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Old 18-08-2012, 11:49
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giffgaff offer unlimited texts, unlimited data and 250mins talk time for just £10per month so 3 still behind them.
Except giffgaff doesn't offer unlimited data they just pretend to & cut you off if you exceed the limit (1GB/hour or 3GB/day).
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Old 18-08-2012, 13:26
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Except giffgaff doesn't offer unlimited data they just pretend to & cut you off if you exceed the limit (1GB/hour or 3GB/day).
Both of which are very high usage. HSPA+ Networks are not designed to be able to deliver that type of consumption and networks protect themselves by installing smart software to identify and throttle users who affect the average users experience.

If I was considering investing in an expensive smartphone I would be keen to have it on a network that offered me reliability most of the time and a simple way to deliver that is to ration users with realistic packages of data that can be delivered. Vodafone have very strict data limits and appear to get good feedback about their user experience. Customer satisfaction seems more of a priority for some networks than for others. Cheap unlimited data might seem like a good proposition but the bandwidth is finite and even with technology improvements there is probably not sufficient to support many heavy users. Some mobile networks are now putting greater emphisis on Wi-Fi to further protect them from increased demands on their 3G bandwidth with the explosion in smartphone use.

It will take some time to see which of the networks has the best strategy to satisfy customers in the medium to long term.

This link provides an interesting insight into the mobile data capacity issue:

http://www.amdocs.com/Whitepapers/OS...cityCrunch.pdf
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Old 18-08-2012, 14:29
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Both of which are very high usage.
Doesn't matter. 1GB and hour or 3GB a day is still less than unlimited.

HSPA+ Networks are not designed to be able to deliver that type of consumption and networks protect themselves by installing smart software to identify and throttle users who affect the average users experience.
So then they shouldn't advertise their plans as being unlimited if they are not actually unlimited.
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Old 18-08-2012, 21:46
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I was making the point that they already struggle to deliver in some areas, then make unlimited data available for even less to attract more people, which will just make it worse.

So not sure what you are trying to say.
That your logic is simply flawed.

Congestion is caused by the number of users in a specific place at a specific time, not how much they can consume over an entire month.

No network can do anything to prevent that happening - hence why they all experience congestion in some areas.

Three says that the average user uses 1.1GB, yet 1GB is a common allowance on other networks.
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Old 19-08-2012, 15:20
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Actually you can get it for £9.90pm by adding the AYCE to the £6.90pm 12 month deal. Then get £50 cashback from TCB = a theoretical £5.70pm

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/200-...-three-1289337
Thanks for that, I'd already decided to go for the £6.90 deal so the quidco was a nice bonus!
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Old 21-08-2012, 07:05
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That your logic is simply flawed.

Congestion is caused by the number of users in a specific place at a specific time, not how much they can consume over an entire month.

No network can do anything to prevent that happening - hence why they all experience congestion in some areas.

Three says that the average user uses 1.1GB, yet 1GB is a common allowance on other networks.
How is my logic flawed? Are you telling me on average people on all you can eat data use the same amount as people on capped data plans? I am pretty sure they use on average more meaning they get more congestion in more areas.
I do get the point that every network might have congestion due to too many using Internet at the same point.
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Old 21-08-2012, 08:55
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How is my logic flawed? Are you telling me on average people on all you can eat data use the same amount as people on capped data plans? I am pretty sure they use on average more meaning they get more congestion in more areas.
On average, people on the Three network use 1.1GB per month.

That suggests that All You Can Eat data is not the cause of congestion, as most of their customers consume less than 2 megabytes per hour on average.

I do get the point that every network might have congestion due to too many using Internet at the same point.
That's the sole cause of congestion.

There are many 4 lane motorways in the country - the M25 being just one of them. It's more congested than the rest because more people are trying to use it at the same time.

Some of those people might only use the road once a year, others might make a short journey, while others will use it daily and make a much longer journey.
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