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Old 17-08-2012, 19:36
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It's fair to say her new era has flopped and many of her fans have deserted her which is a shame. The british public can be stubborn, can she turn things back around? I hope so as she is a real talent.

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Old 17-08-2012, 20:17
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She hasn't appealed to album buyers. It goes for anyone. All you have to do is appeal to people. Look at what you have and go would I buy that if I heard it. If not, don't record it. X Factor is still on next year, she can launch her 3rd album then, and she sure as hell will learn from her mistakes. She needs more ballads and midtempos, last year showed that people really do still appreciate a good old vocal.
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Old 17-08-2012, 20:19
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EVERY artist is one hit away from superstardom and one flop away from irrelevance. At least that's what the charts have taught me
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Old 17-08-2012, 20:20
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Yes but she needs a CRACKING new single.
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Old 17-08-2012, 21:47
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She needs to phone up Joe Mcelderry and get some advice. Literally no money will be invested into her next album so she needs to get the public onside, by doing some sort of reality show like Big Brother or I'm a Celebrity.

No one is going to give up a smash of a single to an artist who can't shift more then 7,000 copies of her album in its first week. Unfortunately that's a fact of the industry, its better to be an unknown up and coming singer than one coming off a flop, especially when the artists relies on others to write the hits for them.
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Old 17-08-2012, 21:51
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She needs to phone up Joe Mcelderry and get some advice. Literally no money will be invested into her next album so she needs to get the public onside, by doing some sort of reality show like Big Brother or I'm a Celebrity.

No one is going to give up a smash of a single to an artist who can't shift more then 7,000 copies of her album in its first week. Unfortunately that's a fact of the industry, its better to be an unknown up and coming singer than one coming off a flop, especially when the artists relies on others to write the hits for them.
She'd only get more hate than she already does
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Old 17-08-2012, 21:52
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I blame her guest spot on the X factor.
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Old 17-08-2012, 22:12
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She'd only get more hate than she already does
If she toned down her levels of excitement over time people would warm to her. Especially if she did IACGMOH and took on the bush trucker trials with real gusto and determination. The British public love a trier.

Look at Kerry Katona, she was vilified by the press and public, did a reality TV show and turned things around for herself.

I genuinely don't think that she'll magically turn this around by just going to America and be instantly loved over there and suddenly she'll be the next global superstar. Breaking America is not only hard but bloody expensive, its a lot of money to spend on someone that has flopped as hard as she has. She literally has nothing going for her this time around and it would have to take someone with a lot of power and skills of persuasion and a LOT of belief in Alex to secure her the right kind of investment to make a serious attempt on the US charts.

I've been following Marina and the Diamonds progress a lot this era. She's had a 10th of the exposure that Alex has had over her career and far less success than Alex has had in the UK, but the fact she has a #1 album is almost a godsend for Marina. In every US interview it is mentioned, before every performance in the US the host never fails to point out that the song she is singing is from her UK #1 album. Success breeds success, especially when your moving into foreign territories.

Failing in you home country, especially when you once had multiple #1s and huge sales is a huge glaring warning to potential investors and stations. Alex needs to sort things out over here before mounting attempts elsewhere. I don't think she can just abandon the UK while her career is in this state and suddenly become a huge US star. Even Joss Stone was enjoying success on both sides of the Atlantic before the UK rejected her, and that's why its criminal that Overcome was not released in America.
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Old 17-08-2012, 22:24
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She'd only get more hate than she already does
QTF. She's just so... 'puppy-dog-aiming-to-please-new-owner'. Sorry but no.
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Old 17-08-2012, 22:38
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She needs to release a cracking ballad for a change and reminds people what a great vocalist she is.
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Old 17-08-2012, 22:44
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She needs to phone up Joe Mcelderry and get some advice. Literally no money will be invested into her next album so she needs to get the public onside, by doing some sort of reality show like Big Brother or I'm a Celebrity.

No one is going to give up a smash of a single to an artist who can't shift more then 7,000 copies of her album in its first week. Unfortunately that's a fact of the industry, its better to be an unknown up and coming singer than one coming off a flop, especially when the artists relies on others to write the hits for them.
Smash hits can be simple. Someone like you proved that. Big budgets are kinda what's wrong with music now. If it's not We found love style then it isn't worth it. Long term sales are more important than first weeks. Back to black sold about 30k in it's first week and look how that ended up. There is still the x factor and autumn promo. Most don't know it's out bar those on the web. If I wasn't a fan on the web I'd have no idea, same for leona with Trouble. They need to sort out radio.
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Old 17-08-2012, 22:48
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IMO the lack of success this era isn't just because of lack of quality music and genre change but rather because she doesn't really have much 'likeability' because lets face it she's been painted out to be a diva and a b*tch by the media and if someone doesn't like you they wont buy your music. To turn things around she needs to go back to her more R&B influenced sound and do a radio tour to gain their support and try change peoples perception of her personality.

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Old 17-08-2012, 23:02
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She's now signed to RCA US and recording new material in the US so she's far from done.
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Old 17-08-2012, 23:23
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IMO the lack of success this era isn't just because of lack of quality music and genre change but rather because she doesn't really have much 'likeability' because lets face it she's been painted out to be a diva and a b*tch by the media and if someone doesn't like you they wont buy your music. To turn things around she needs to go back to her more R&B influenced sound and do a radio tour to gain their support and try change peoples perception of her personality.
Nothing she can do. If people want to think she's a bitch because of what they read then they will. The media are influential, and if they print things people believe it.
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Old 17-08-2012, 23:34
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Smash hits can be simple. Someone like you proved that. Big budgets are kinda what's wrong with music now. If it's not We found love style then it isn't worth it. Long term sales are more important than first weeks. Back to black sold about 30k in it's first week and look how that ended up. There is still the x factor and autumn promo. Most don't know it's out bar those on the web. If I wasn't a fan on the web I'd have no idea, same for leona with Trouble. They need to sort out radio.
Adele and Amy Winehouse were acclaimed songwritiers with the ability to write songs that connect with the public, they weren't reliant on someone else writing those songs for them. When you have others writing songs for you, especially songs with the potential of becoming hits big budgets do matter.

And despite the simplicity of their material both Adele and Amy Winehouse benefited from large promotional budgets, something Alex clearly didn't have this time around, her videos, her styling and distinct lack of promo seemed to suggest that budgets were tight.

She's now signed to RCA US and recording new material in the US so she's far from done.
At the rate RCA US is going Alex is going to be their biggest star, Britney, Pink, Kelly Clarkson and co are all looking to relocate elsewhere once their RCA contracts end.
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Old 17-08-2012, 23:46
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Yes lots of hope - she has a great voice and a personality. What steps should she take next..... well this depends on her current contract....if it hasnt expired .... she needs to end this dance experiment with lala love or fire and circuit the dance clubs! Entice dj mixes from avicii, guetta, falke, deadmau5, skrillex, and cameos from Minaj, flo rida.

Then if it has expired she needs to release songs more beyonce, mariah , whitney and leona like. A gospel number with some huge US legends. Then with her new contract - release a US album with cameos from Bruno Mars, Janelle Monae, Missy Elliott (so should give her a call!!!!!!!), timbaland, pharell...and guest vocals from Kelly Rowland, Nicole Sherzinger, Beyonce/Solange, frank ocean -
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Old 17-08-2012, 23:57
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She needs to aim beyond the UK for longevity - Germany, US, Australia ......... a mixed album of her two albums and new material.... songs to include:
Bad Boys (remix 2013)
The Silence (remix 2013)
All Night Long (remix 2013)
Broken Heels (remix 2013)
What Happens on the Dancefloor (feat Cobra Starship)
Fire
Let It Go (acoustic version)
Elephant (Erik Morillo mix)
Oh La La
Between The Sheets
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