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Old 18-08-2012, 12:14
Sally77
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Sorry for another Ben and Phil thread!!!

In the info for next Friday episode, it says that Phil tries to persuade Ian to help with Ben, but it is taken out of his hands when he gets a phonecall from the prison, and has to say good-bye to the one person he loves.

Are we meant to think the Ben takes his life, or could it be something else? Sorry i don't have much knowledge on how the legal system works, however assuming that somebody pleads guilty when they go to their initial cour apperance, they don't need a trial so they would be sentenced there and then, so could the phonecall be that he has been given life? any thoughts?
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Old 18-08-2012, 12:16
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If ben killed himself would it mean they wouldnt have anything on phil doing the cover up?
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Old 18-08-2012, 12:19
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There's still a trial I think even when the accused pleads guilty.

Though, I do think he could take his life.
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Old 18-08-2012, 12:21
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Killing Ben would be a bad idea. This is the son of Phil Mitchell. He could be brought back and reinvented in years to come.
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Old 18-08-2012, 12:22
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If ben killed himself would it mean they wouldnt have anything on phil doing the cover up?
That is my guess.

They have already charged Jay with preverting the course of justice by concealing Ben's crime, but if Ben manages to kill himself before implicating Phil, and Jay keeps schtoom about Phil orchestrating it all out of some misguided sense of loyalty, Phil Mitchell will be free to strut around the square, bullying all and sundry as usual.

I'd prefer it if the police learned that it was Phil who orchestrated the while thing, manipulating Jay and untimidating Ian into silence. Phil who should be facing the charges too,.
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Old 18-08-2012, 12:23
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That is my guess.

They have already charged Jay with preverting the course of justice by concealing Ben's crime, but if Ben manages to kill himself before implicating Phil, and Jay keeps schtoom about Phil orchestrating it all out of some misguided sense of loyalty, Phil Mitchell will be free to strut around the square, bullying all and sundry as usual.

I'd prefer it if the police learned that it was Phil who orchestrated the while thing, manipulating Jay and untimidating Ian into silence. Phil who should be facing the charges too,.
So if ben kills himself there is no reason for phil to go after shirley to stop her telling the police he knew cos she wont have anything on him? I wonder if ben does die will she know? Ben wont be there to testify or can jay do that?
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Old 18-08-2012, 12:54
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That is my guess.

They have already charged Jay with preverting the course of justice by concealing Ben's crime, but if Ben manages to kill himself before implicating Phil, and Jay keeps schtoom about Phil orchestrating it all out of some misguided sense of loyalty, Phil Mitchell will be free to strut around the square, bullying all and sundry as usual.

I'd prefer it if the police learned that it was Phil who orchestrated the while thing, manipulating Jay and untimidating Ian into silence. Phil who should be facing the charges too,.
They bailed Jay and let him go, so I don't think they know he was there when it happened. They wouldn't have let him go if he was there, saw it all, and then covered it up from the get-go, surely? Is it a bit more likely that he told them that Ben found him at the Arches, after it was done, and Jay didn't know what to do so he kept quiet? So if Ben kills himself, the limited involvement the police think Jay had would probably only get him community service in soap land (in the real world, it would still be a bit of jail time).
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