[Cantona07]

Originally Posted by Dangerman

Completely agree 100%



Fair point, Kenny's dislike of certain media factions ( for good reason ) served to exacerbate issues when we really needed someone to resolve them - hopefully the off field changes have helped too, we don't know how much of Brendan's interviews have been influenced by some decent PR advice and how much is completely his own, this is after all a completely different level to Swansea ( no disrespect of course )

I do feel Brendan does need to be careful, his handling of the possible departures of Carroll and Agger hasn't been what we want to be seeing, of course everyone has a price but to suggest that one of our best players ( Agger not Carroll ) might be available is not something we want to be hearing - if anyone dared to suggest to Fergie that City wanted to buy Vidic for example I'm quite sure the second word would be 'off'

I genuinely believe the man has no money to spend and he is trying to generate cash while not admitting that the top players are for sale.

[batdude_uk1]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

I genuinely believe the man has no money to spend and he is trying to generate cash while not admitting that the top players are for sale.

Yes, and that is because of Dalglish blowing the pot and thensome, during his spell at the club.
The only way that Rodgers could get any sort of decent money would be to sell his better assests, and they are few and far between.
So playing the game of trying to raise funds, whilst also trying to keep the fans on-side, is an espcially tough one for him.

[Cantona07]

The unacceptable face of impartiality would sell Suarez for £40m or whatever he is deemed to be worth right now.

Its not THAT hard to replace 18 goals.

[seellee]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

The unacceptable face of impartiality would sell Suarez for £40m or whatever he is deemed to be worth right now.

Its not THAT hard to replace 18 goals.

I personally wouldn't mind if they did. He doesn't score enough goals and he caused us no end of trouble last season.

Having said that if he can add that finishing touch to his game, he could be something incredible. At least we've tied him down to a long term deal. Arsenal take note!

[Cantona07]

Originally Posted by seellee

I personally wouldn't mind if they did. He doesn't score enough goals and he caused us no end of trouble last season.

Having said that if he can add that finishing touch to his game, he could be something incredible. At least we've tied him down to a long term deal. Arsenal take note!

The point I've made time and time again in the last 24 hours is that a guy who is 90 in 110 games for Ajax and 1 in 2 for his country doesn't need to ADD finishing to his game!!!

You cannot smash the ball in like its instinctive in one country and then become a withdrawn no.10 in another.

Suarez was bought as a goalscoring machine - rightly or wrongly.

[seellee]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

The point I've made time and time again in the last 24 hours is that a guy who is 90 in 110 games for Ajax and 1 in 2 for his country doesn't need to ADD finishing to his game!!!

You cannot smash the ball in like its instinctive in one country and then become a withdrawn no.10 in another.

Suarez was bought as a goalscoring machine - rightly or wrongly.

Well he needs to do it in the premier league. Something which seems to fail him. The amount of chances he misses is unforgiveable. If he'd have slotted a couple away yesterday we wouldn't have been 1-0 down at half time. Something which was a mild annoyance with him, is now a real headache for me. I'm sure my fellow supporters will disagree, but he needs to buck his ideas up.

[Cantona07]

Originally Posted by seellee

Well he needs to do it in the premier league. Something which seems to fail him. The amount of chances he misses is unforgiveable. If he'd have slotted a couple away yesterday we wouldn't have been 1-0 down at half time. Something which was a mild annoyance with him, is now a real headache for me. I'm sure my fellow supporters will disagree, but he needs to buck his ideas up.

I totally agree with you.

My issue is the idea that he needs to learn a new skill as if being a goalscorer is somehow alien to him.

It isn't.

He has smashed in goals throughout his career.

Yes, so did Kezman and Alves in Holland but we have never tried to teach them a new skill, make excuses for them or try to punt them for £40m.

Suarez was signed as an out and out goalscorer based on his record for club and country at the point he was signed.

He is hero-worshiped due to the fact that he caused a ruck between Man Utd and Liverpool.

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There is a fair chance that because of the next few matches they could find themselves with having little or no points for the first half the season due to the fixtures they have got. That could have decremental affect to the psychology of the team. On the other hand they could see this week as blip and win these big games.

However if they do find themselves bottom of the league for a month or two even though they do have the players its going to be interesting to see if they can pull themselves out and are mentally strong to do so. The first half the season is going to be tough for them. I said earlier I don't think they will be relegated but it's going to be a tough two months for them.

[snukr]

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

Can you see them beating Man City, Chelsea, Man United, Newcastle, Everton?

I can't.

Everton? LOL They beat them three times last season, they're not that bad.
I don't think they'll go down, but they'll struggle to qualify for a Europa League place, Rodgers was a strange choice, Liverpool don't usually offer the managers position to somebody so inexperienced and relatively unknown, replacing big names with players from Swansea is not the right way to go.
I'm not going to judge him on yesterday's result, which was very bad, but if the team are struggling at Christmas he could be on his way out in less time than Roy Hodgson.

[Chip Popple]

[quote=Cantona07;60538176]I totally agree with you.

My issue is the idea that he needs to learn a new skill as if being a goalscorer is somehow alien to him.

It isn't.

He has smashed in goals throughout his career.

Yes, so did Kezman and Alves in Holland but we have never tried to teach them a new skill, make excuses for them or try to punt them for £40m.

Suarez was signed as an out and out goalscorer based on his record for club and country at the point he was signed.

He is hero-worshiped due to the fact that he caused a ruck between Man Utd and Liverpool.[/QUOTE]


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[seellee]

[quote=Chip Popple;60541813]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

I totally agree with you.

My issue is the idea that he needs to learn a new skill as if being a goalscorer is somehow alien to him.

It isn't.

He has smashed in goals throughout his career.

Yes, so did Kezman and Alves in Holland but we have never tried to teach them a new skill, make excuses for them or try to punt them for £40m.

Suarez was signed as an out and out goalscorer based on his record for club and country at the point he was signed.

He is hero-worshiped due to the fact that he caused a ruck between Man Utd and Liverpool.[/QUOTE]


Summed up in a nutshell

I honestly think that's bull. He's looked highly upon because of his talent and because he's one of very few gifted players we have. Some people may love him for that. I do not.

[Grouty]

Im not excpecting a top 4 finish, im thinking mid table, bit lower, anyone who thinks a new manager, whos only been managing for a couple of years or so is going to get us into the top 4 is deluded, its going to take a good few seasons yet for us to get back up there, got to give the guy time, hes still learning, if they wanted to be back up there straight away, and winning stuff, then they obvioulsy would have gone for a manager whos been in the game a while, so got lots of eperience, and has won leagues, cups etc...., thats not Rodgers.

[Cantona07]

[quote=seellee;60541949]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

I honestly think that's bull. He's looked highly upon because of his talent and because he's one of very few gifted players we have. Some people may love him for that. I do not.

Its not really bull when your former manager has stated that if you aren't behind Suarez you aren't a proper Liverpool fan.

[SULLA]

This was a opening day clash between two mid table teams.

The team playing at home won. It's no big deal.

I do note that Albion bought off the bench a very promising young player from Chelsea on a 12 month loan. I doubt if Chelsea would have loaned him to Liverpool. They would have wanted mega bucks for him.

[Last Request]

West Brom will still go down this season despite yesterdays victory.

BR will be sacked come Christmas sadly Liverpool won't be relegated, would be delighted if it happened though.

[Cantona07]

Originally Posted by Last Request

West Brom will still go down this season despite yesterdays victory.

BR will be sacked come Christmas sadly Liverpool won't be relegated, would be delighted if it happened though.

Brendan Rodgers will not be sacked by Christmas.

[Theo_Bear]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

Brendan Rodgers will not be sacked by Christmas.

Wouldn't be surprised. . seriously.

The Board has said CL qualification has to happen this season, not that there's a cat in hells chance of Liverpool finishing in even the top 6. If the club's in the bottom half of the table come mid November, the knives will come out.

[ChristmasCake]

Originally Posted by Cantona07

I genuinely believe the man has no money to spend and he is trying to generate cash while not admitting that the top players are for sale.

I seem to recall him buying Borini and Allen for a fair chunk of money..

[Big Boy Barry]

A safe mid-table finish.

[0rch1deam]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Barry

A safe mid-table finish.

We'll see, one game does not a season make.....

[Big Boy Barry]

Originally Posted by 0rch1deam

We'll see, one game does not a season make.....

Liverpool have been mediocre for several years now. This is now a trend.

[0rch1deam]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Barry

Liverpool have been mediocre for several years now. This is now a trend.

.....like I said, we'll see.

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Originally Posted by Theo_Bear

Wouldn't be surprised. . seriously.

The Board has said CL qualification has to happen this season, not that there's a cat in hells chance of Liverpool finishing in even the top 6. If the club's in the bottom half of the table come mid November, the knives will come out.

Can't believe the owners said that. Can't see Rodgers going either by Christmas. Lot of mischief making methinks.

[Dandem]

Originally Posted by Theo_Bear

The Board has said CL qualification has to happen this season

The owners have said no such thing.

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I agree with Cantona it does seem me to as an outsider Liverpool are strapped for cash huge shame for the fans.