She's amazing! I like her song Paris
Lana del Rey goes hard on Urban
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Originally Posted by DRAGON LANCE:
“m06een00, you do realise that this track is an UNRELEASED DEMO. Just to spell it out for you nice and slowly:”
“m06een00, you do realise that this track is an UNRELEASED DEMO. Just to spell it out for you nice and slowly:”
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Yeah, I do know what a demo is.
Quote:
“If you actually knew what you were on about, you'd also know Lana has leaked one hell of a lot of unreleased tracks over the last year. They are in a wide, wide range of styles, and it is just stunning from a fans point of view seeing how much stuff she has done and the sheer quality of it. I do not exaggerate when I say 6 albums worth.”
“If you actually knew what you were on about, you'd also know Lana has leaked one hell of a lot of unreleased tracks over the last year. They are in a wide, wide range of styles, and it is just stunning from a fans point of view seeing how much stuff she has done and the sheer quality of it. I do not exaggerate when I say 6 albums worth.”
Only know her Born To Die album from last year and didn't like. Dreary, and ultimately boring and dreadful vocals I doubt many will remember her songs 5 years from now.
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“Many of the leaked tunes are true classics, and the only frustration is we have to wait and see if they will end up on a future album. The tragedy is many of them probably will remain as leaked on the web only.”
“Many of the leaked tunes are true classics, and the only frustration is we have to wait and see if they will end up on a future album. The tragedy is many of them probably will remain as leaked on the web only.”
No tragedy. Doubt if you'll have to wait too long as if they are 'true classics" in the pipeline, she'll wring every last dollar she can out of them so yes, I predict an album. In fact more than one as she'll then do a remix.
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“Your link to the NME article on her modelling is comical as well. A lot of NME readers seem to hate Lana, but even they say on this "Hardly selling out as she never claimed to be above fame and money."”
“Your link to the NME article on her modelling is comical as well. A lot of NME readers seem to hate Lana, but even they say on this "Hardly selling out as she never claimed to be above fame and money."”
Yes, well there lies the rub.If you want to be taken seriously as an artisit, you don't jump on every money-making machine bandwagon you can fit into your schedule. Not at this stage anyway. She's omly been going as 'Lana' for a relatively short time after her first crack at fame as Liz Grant failed. What she's doing makes her look cynical and fake. But then to myself and many others, we suspected that fakeness well before her current fame. A karaoke singer at best. Can autotune even cope with her singing? Amazing how peeople are so easily duped these days.
Originally Posted by m06een00:
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Yes, well there lies the rub.If you want to be taken seriously as an artisit, you don't jump on every money-making machine bandwagon you can fit into your schedule. Not at this stage anyway. She's omly been going as 'Lana' for a relatively short time after her first crack at fame as Liz Grant failed. What she's doing makes her look cynical and fake. But then to myself and many others, we suspected that fakeness well before her current fame. A karaoke singer at best. Can autotune even cope with her singing? Amazing how peeople are so easily duped these days.”
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Yes, well there lies the rub.If you want to be taken seriously as an artisit, you don't jump on every money-making machine bandwagon you can fit into your schedule. Not at this stage anyway. She's omly been going as 'Lana' for a relatively short time after her first crack at fame as Liz Grant failed. What she's doing makes her look cynical and fake. But then to myself and many others, we suspected that fakeness well before her current fame. A karaoke singer at best. Can autotune even cope with her singing? Amazing how peeople are so easily duped these days.”
And you don't think, that most of the indie bands (and all artists) want to make as much money as they can get.
Amazing how people are so easily deluded these days.
Originally Posted by rbautz:
“And you don't think, that most of the indie bands (and all artists) want to make as much money as they can get.
Amazing how people are so easily deluded these days.”
“And you don't think, that most of the indie bands (and all artists) want to make as much money as they can get.
Amazing how people are so easily deluded these days.”
From what they produce in the studio, yes, not modelling clothes, named perfumes etc. You are also deluded if you believe all Indie artists in the music business are in it to make a fast buck. Many of those wouldn't be producing the sort of alternative music they do, but jumping on the mainstream bandwagon instead were that the case The Indie atists you are thinking of who want to make a fast buck are known as corporate Indie artists most of whose music sucks big time anyway.
Originally Posted by m06een00:
“From what they produce in the studio, yes, not modelling clothes, named perfumes etc. You are also deluded if you believe all Indie artists in the music business are in it to make a fast buck. Many of those wouldn't be producing the sort of alternative music they do, but jumping on the mainstream bandwagon instead were that the case The Indie atists you are thinking of who want to make a fast buck are known as corporate Indie artists most of whose music sucks big time anyway.”
“From what they produce in the studio, yes, not modelling clothes, named perfumes etc. You are also deluded if you believe all Indie artists in the music business are in it to make a fast buck. Many of those wouldn't be producing the sort of alternative music they do, but jumping on the mainstream bandwagon instead were that the case The Indie atists you are thinking of who want to make a fast buck are known as corporate Indie artists most of whose music sucks big time anyway.”
Like I said some post above, she was modelling before she was Lana.
There was a series in German Spiegel Magazine some months ago about some indie artists in Germany and it was quite interesting. All the artist said they earn now 1/3 of the money what they got 10 years ago and all of them had 2 or 3 Jobs to survive, I think in England it's the same.
Look the "Queen of flop" is now trendsetter of another "Queen"
http://crushable.com/entertainment/l...a-del-rey-824/
http://crushable.com/entertainment/l...a-del-rey-824/
Briefly on the lips debate (it always bloody comes up doesn't it!): As mentioned those collagen injections don't last forever and your lips eventually go back to their original shape. If you look at very recent photos of Lana this is exactly what's happened, and frankly I think she looks gorgeous. Not that I ever judged her on the big lips, they were great fun. But I do hope she doesn't muck about with them again as she's a really, really naturally beautiful woman. Whoever her boyfriend is these days I hope he tells her that.
Give it up m06een00! I berated people who diss Lana for coming up with ill conceived arguments and not getting their facts right. You have proved the point again.
Lana calls her style of music "Gangster (meaning hip-hop) Nancy Sinatra." Both Hip Hop and Nancy Sinatra are (whether you like it or not) about GLAMOUR as well as cracking tunes.
Now, very simply, if Lana was pretending to be some hate the system punk rocker that constantly mouthed off bring down the capitalist society, then you would have a point. She isn't, and isn't therefore tied down by some dogmatic rule set as to how she can behave, so I really do not see what the problem is with her posing for fashion magazines and doing modelling as well as being a pretty god darned incredible singer. Her hero Nancy Sinatra would have done the same.
I don't see how it devalues what she does at all. If she posed for FHM and Nuts every other month like some singers do you might have a point. Sorry but this is a non argument you have here.
You say her 1st crack as Lizzy Grant failed. Wrong. There's actually a very good interview on MTV with her former label boss that verifies the story. And its a pretty bizarre one.
What actually happened with the Lizzy Grant album is that she completed it, they were on the verge of releasing it, and then for whatever reason, she marched in, said she wasn't happy and said she wanted to buy the album off them. The label boss was stunned, he pleaded with her to reconsider. Its a great album, I can understand why he was dumbfounded. They were even getting good reviews of the previews they'd sent out. But no, she wasn't happy, and she bought it off them.
So it was in truth yet more unreleased demos. Utterly brilliant ones too, some of her best work. Its rumoured it will eventually get re-released.
Now you may want to use that in itself as an example of how ruthless, rich and horrible Lana is, so I'll add this. Despite getting basically shafted by her, the label boss still sings her praises. He speaks more with disappointment that she didn't work with them. He confirms that she does write all this stuff herself and she had slogged it out on the indie circuit just her and her guitar. Apparently she used to sit on the New York Tube all night writing out songs. He says she was like a cross between Leonard Cohen with the glamour of Marilyn Monroe. Good comparison.
You go on about good old fashioned "Indie" graft. Lana's been there and done it. If anything she's more "Indie" than you give her credit for. More "Indie" than a lot of two faced little fakes that pass themselves off as Indie these days.
Whatever you think of Lana, she means what she sings. It might not be to your taste and you might not like her principles. But there is artistic merit and thought in everything she's ever done.
And she can manage to do that and make a rather good model too!
Final Note: Nice to see her pal Gaga’s gone a bit Gaga trying to copy her!
Give it up m06een00! I berated people who diss Lana for coming up with ill conceived arguments and not getting their facts right. You have proved the point again.
Lana calls her style of music "Gangster (meaning hip-hop) Nancy Sinatra." Both Hip Hop and Nancy Sinatra are (whether you like it or not) about GLAMOUR as well as cracking tunes.
Now, very simply, if Lana was pretending to be some hate the system punk rocker that constantly mouthed off bring down the capitalist society, then you would have a point. She isn't, and isn't therefore tied down by some dogmatic rule set as to how she can behave, so I really do not see what the problem is with her posing for fashion magazines and doing modelling as well as being a pretty god darned incredible singer. Her hero Nancy Sinatra would have done the same.
I don't see how it devalues what she does at all. If she posed for FHM and Nuts every other month like some singers do you might have a point. Sorry but this is a non argument you have here.
You say her 1st crack as Lizzy Grant failed. Wrong. There's actually a very good interview on MTV with her former label boss that verifies the story. And its a pretty bizarre one.
What actually happened with the Lizzy Grant album is that she completed it, they were on the verge of releasing it, and then for whatever reason, she marched in, said she wasn't happy and said she wanted to buy the album off them. The label boss was stunned, he pleaded with her to reconsider. Its a great album, I can understand why he was dumbfounded. They were even getting good reviews of the previews they'd sent out. But no, she wasn't happy, and she bought it off them.
So it was in truth yet more unreleased demos. Utterly brilliant ones too, some of her best work. Its rumoured it will eventually get re-released.
Now you may want to use that in itself as an example of how ruthless, rich and horrible Lana is, so I'll add this. Despite getting basically shafted by her, the label boss still sings her praises. He speaks more with disappointment that she didn't work with them. He confirms that she does write all this stuff herself and she had slogged it out on the indie circuit just her and her guitar. Apparently she used to sit on the New York Tube all night writing out songs. He says she was like a cross between Leonard Cohen with the glamour of Marilyn Monroe. Good comparison.
You go on about good old fashioned "Indie" graft. Lana's been there and done it. If anything she's more "Indie" than you give her credit for. More "Indie" than a lot of two faced little fakes that pass themselves off as Indie these days.
Whatever you think of Lana, she means what she sings. It might not be to your taste and you might not like her principles. But there is artistic merit and thought in everything she's ever done.
And she can manage to do that and make a rather good model too!
Final Note: Nice to see her pal Gaga’s gone a bit Gaga trying to copy her!
Originally Posted by rbautz:
“Look the "Queen of flop" is now trendsetter of another "Queen"
http://crushable.com/entertainment/l...a-del-rey-824/”
“Look the "Queen of flop" is now trendsetter of another "Queen"
http://crushable.com/entertainment/l...a-del-rey-824/”
Originally Posted by DRAGON LANCE:
“Briefly on the lips debate (it always bloody comes up doesn't it!): As mentioned those collagen injections don't last forever and your lips eventually go back to their original shape. If you look at very recent photos of Lana this is exactly what's happened, and frankly I think she looks gorgeous. Not that I ever judged her on the big lips, they were great fun. But I do hope she doesn't muck about with them again as she's a really, really naturally beautiful woman. Whoever her boyfriend is these days I hope he tells her that.
Give it up m06een00! I berated people who diss Lana for coming up with ill conceived arguments and not getting their facts right. You have proved the point again.
Lana calls her style of music "Gangster (meaning hip-hop) Nancy Sinatra." Both Hip Hop and Nancy Sinatra are (whether you like it or not) about GLAMOUR as well as cracking tunes.
Now, very simply, if Lana was pretending to be some hate the system punk rocker that constantly mouthed off bring down the capitalist society, then you would have a point. She isn't, and isn't therefore tied down by some dogmatic rule set as to how she can behave, so I really do not see what the problem is with her posing for fashion magazines and doing modelling as well as being a pretty god darned incredible singer. Her hero Nancy Sinatra would have done the same.
I don't see how it devalues what she does at all. If she posed for FHM and Nuts every other month like some singers do you might have a point. Sorry but this is a non argument you have here.
You say her 1st crack as Lizzy Grant failed. Wrong. There's actually a very good interview on MTV with her former label boss that verifies the story. And its a pretty bizarre one.
What actually happened with the Lizzy Grant album is that she completed it, they were on the verge of releasing it, and then for whatever reason, she marched in, said she wasn't happy and said she wanted to buy the album off them. The label boss was stunned, he pleaded with her to reconsider. Its a great album, I can understand why he was dumbfounded. They were even getting good reviews of the previews they'd sent out. But no, she wasn't happy, and she bought it off them.
So it was in truth yet more unreleased demos. Utterly brilliant ones too, some of her best work. Its rumoured it will eventually get re-released.
Now you may want to use that in itself as an example of how ruthless, rich and horrible Lana is, so I'll add this. Despite getting basically shafted by her, the label boss still sings her praises. He speaks more with disappointment that she didn't work with them. He confirms that she does write all this stuff herself and she had slogged it out on the indie circuit just her and her guitar. Apparently she used to sit on the New York Tube all night writing out songs. He says she was like a cross between Leonard Cohen with the glamour of Marilyn Monroe. Good comparison.
You go on about good old fashioned "Indie" graft. Lana's been there and done it. If anything she's more "Indie" than you give her credit for. More "Indie" than a lot of two faced little fakes that pass themselves off as Indie these days.
Whatever you think of Lana, she means what she sings. It might not be to your taste and you might not like her principles. But there is artistic merit and thought in everything she's ever done.
And she can manage to do that and make a rather good model too!
Final Note: Nice to see her pal Gaga’s gone a bit Gaga trying to copy her!”
“Briefly on the lips debate (it always bloody comes up doesn't it!): As mentioned those collagen injections don't last forever and your lips eventually go back to their original shape. If you look at very recent photos of Lana this is exactly what's happened, and frankly I think she looks gorgeous. Not that I ever judged her on the big lips, they were great fun. But I do hope she doesn't muck about with them again as she's a really, really naturally beautiful woman. Whoever her boyfriend is these days I hope he tells her that.
Give it up m06een00! I berated people who diss Lana for coming up with ill conceived arguments and not getting their facts right. You have proved the point again.
Lana calls her style of music "Gangster (meaning hip-hop) Nancy Sinatra." Both Hip Hop and Nancy Sinatra are (whether you like it or not) about GLAMOUR as well as cracking tunes.
Now, very simply, if Lana was pretending to be some hate the system punk rocker that constantly mouthed off bring down the capitalist society, then you would have a point. She isn't, and isn't therefore tied down by some dogmatic rule set as to how she can behave, so I really do not see what the problem is with her posing for fashion magazines and doing modelling as well as being a pretty god darned incredible singer. Her hero Nancy Sinatra would have done the same.
I don't see how it devalues what she does at all. If she posed for FHM and Nuts every other month like some singers do you might have a point. Sorry but this is a non argument you have here.
You say her 1st crack as Lizzy Grant failed. Wrong. There's actually a very good interview on MTV with her former label boss that verifies the story. And its a pretty bizarre one.
What actually happened with the Lizzy Grant album is that she completed it, they were on the verge of releasing it, and then for whatever reason, she marched in, said she wasn't happy and said she wanted to buy the album off them. The label boss was stunned, he pleaded with her to reconsider. Its a great album, I can understand why he was dumbfounded. They were even getting good reviews of the previews they'd sent out. But no, she wasn't happy, and she bought it off them.
So it was in truth yet more unreleased demos. Utterly brilliant ones too, some of her best work. Its rumoured it will eventually get re-released.
Now you may want to use that in itself as an example of how ruthless, rich and horrible Lana is, so I'll add this. Despite getting basically shafted by her, the label boss still sings her praises. He speaks more with disappointment that she didn't work with them. He confirms that she does write all this stuff herself and she had slogged it out on the indie circuit just her and her guitar. Apparently she used to sit on the New York Tube all night writing out songs. He says she was like a cross between Leonard Cohen with the glamour of Marilyn Monroe. Good comparison.
You go on about good old fashioned "Indie" graft. Lana's been there and done it. If anything she's more "Indie" than you give her credit for. More "Indie" than a lot of two faced little fakes that pass themselves off as Indie these days.
Whatever you think of Lana, she means what she sings. It might not be to your taste and you might not like her principles. But there is artistic merit and thought in everything she's ever done.
And she can manage to do that and make a rather good model too!
Final Note: Nice to see her pal Gaga’s gone a bit Gaga trying to copy her!”
right gaga and lana are my two favourite artists right now, stop trying to say gaga is copying her, lana isn't the only one two have had brown hair and a flower! appreciate both of them!
Originally Posted by rickster1995:
“right gaga and lana are my two favourite artists right now, stop trying to say gaga is copying her, lana isn't the only one two have had brown hair and a flower! appreciate both of them!”
“right gaga and lana are my two favourite artists right now, stop trying to say gaga is copying her, lana isn't the only one two have had brown hair and a flower! appreciate both of them!”
The trendsetting queen stays unbothered and goes further on experimental sound
Lana Del Rey Big Bad Wolf
http://a.tumblr.com/tumblr_m94mu65GLK1rewp64o1.mp3
About Axel Rose perhaps?
I thought it was fun. This is what makes me laugh really. People slam Born to Die as being the female Radiohead album, she's a manic depressive with no sense of humour, blah, blah, etc, yes, yes, we Lana fans have heard it all before.
However when these upbeat hip hop tracks or fun experiments like Big Bad Wolf leak out then this apparently proves that the hate brigade were right all along, THEY KNEW IT, she was faking all this arty music and she's really just a shallow pop star, etc, etc, yes, yes we Lana fans heard it all before.
Couldn't just be that she's a serious artist that ya know, likes to have fun too every now and again?
Oh and one more thing. If she can't sing then Messi can't play Football. Autotune? Anyone who says that clearly doesn't know what the effect sounds like. The only time I've heard it used on her recordings is on the dance/hip hop tracks to give a weird Ke$ha style warble effect.
I thought it was fun. This is what makes me laugh really. People slam Born to Die as being the female Radiohead album, she's a manic depressive with no sense of humour, blah, blah, etc, yes, yes, we Lana fans have heard it all before.
However when these upbeat hip hop tracks or fun experiments like Big Bad Wolf leak out then this apparently proves that the hate brigade were right all along, THEY KNEW IT, she was faking all this arty music and she's really just a shallow pop star, etc, etc, yes, yes we Lana fans heard it all before.
Couldn't just be that she's a serious artist that ya know, likes to have fun too every now and again?
Oh and one more thing. If she can't sing then Messi can't play Football. Autotune? Anyone who says that clearly doesn't know what the effect sounds like. The only time I've heard it used on her recordings is on the dance/hip hop tracks to give a weird Ke$ha style warble effect.
And it goes on and on
Lana Del Rey: Playing Dangerous
http://www.josepvinaixa.com/blog/lan...rous-premiere/
Lana Del Rey: Playing Dangerous
http://www.josepvinaixa.com/blog/lan...rous-premiere/
Originally Posted by DRAGON LANCE:
“Give it up m06een00! I berated people who diss Lana for coming up with ill conceived arguments and not getting their facts right. You have proved the point again.
Lana calls her style of music "Gangster (meaning hip-hop) Nancy Sinatra." Both Hip Hop and Nancy Sinatra are (whether you like it or not) about GLAMOUR as well as cracking tunes.”
“Give it up m06een00! I berated people who diss Lana for coming up with ill conceived arguments and not getting their facts right. You have proved the point again.
Lana calls her style of music "Gangster (meaning hip-hop) Nancy Sinatra." Both Hip Hop and Nancy Sinatra are (whether you like it or not) about GLAMOUR as well as cracking tunes.”
To compare "Lana" to Nancy Sinatra (her real name) is rather farcical For a start neither Nancy's looks or style are anything like "Lana's", but at least she could sing a bit. As far as glamour goes, sadly in the 60s, Nancy was a product in that showbiz young women were expected to play the glamour game even though Nancy was an average looker.You were told what to do and how to do it, or your career was over. Having a famous father didn't really help her either. it wasn't until she started working with Lee Hazlelwood that her career was launched and what she's best remembered for rather than her looks or having a famous dad. But as a singer she never came across as faking it. She didn't need to as her natural personality and pleasant voice always came through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgFtQPgHyek
Originally Posted by m06een00:
“To compare "Lana" to Nancy Sinatra (her real name) is rather farcical For a start neither Nancy's looks or style are anything like "Lana's", but at least she could sing a bit. As far as glamour goes, sadly in the 60s, Nancy was a product in that showbiz young women were expected to play the glamour game even though Nancy was an average looker.You were told what to do and how to do it, or your career was over. Having a famous father didn't really help her either. it wasn't until she started working with Lee Hazlelwood that her career was launched and what she's best remembered for rather than her looks or having a famous dad. But as a singer she never came across as faking it. She didn't need to as her natural personality and pleasant voice always came through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgFtQPgHyek”
“To compare "Lana" to Nancy Sinatra (her real name) is rather farcical For a start neither Nancy's looks or style are anything like "Lana's", but at least she could sing a bit. As far as glamour goes, sadly in the 60s, Nancy was a product in that showbiz young women were expected to play the glamour game even though Nancy was an average looker.You were told what to do and how to do it, or your career was over. Having a famous father didn't really help her either. it wasn't until she started working with Lee Hazlelwood that her career was launched and what she's best remembered for rather than her looks or having a famous dad. But as a singer she never came across as faking it. She didn't need to as her natural personality and pleasant voice always came through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgFtQPgHyek”
She was my beauty queen in my early yearsCan I ask you something, have you ever heard the phrase
"A hater is just a confused admirer"
Originally Posted by rbautz:
“She was my beauty queen in my early years”
“
She was my beauty queen in my early years”
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Wearing blonde wigs and overuse of mascara and make-up doesn't enhance a womam's beauty in my eyes.
Quote:
“Can I ask you something, have you ever heard the phrase
"A hater is just a confused admirer"
”
“Can I ask you something, have you ever heard the phrase
"A hater is just a confused admirer"
”
Hm! Can't help you there as I haven't the vaguest idea what you are talking about.
I'm sorry but you are just clutching at straws now. Actually, I agree with that jibe that seems to suggest Lana struggles to "sing a bit." Lana can sing A LOT. I've seen her live and she's f'in incredible. So much range, so deep, so high, the things that girl can do with her voice are incredible. She doesn't sing it like on the record, she sings it BETTER than it is on the record.
If she has stumbled as a live vocalist it is simply because she is a very shy person (I'll come back to this) who apparently gets stage fright from hell. Not helped by all the media hate she was taking at the time. It took her a little while to adjust, but she has done now. You're seeing the real Lana now and she's amazing. Just a shame people like you seem to continually judge her forever more on those few occasions she has faltered.
You are also totally wrong about none of Lana's style matching Nancy's. Once again your total ignorance of her material betrays you. Although it is just one influence of many. Lana's 1st (known) album, under the name of May Jailer, is just her playing acoustic guitar and singing Joni Mitchell, Nick Drake and country style songs. If you look through the whole of her music from that point to now, you can see the Nancy style, jazz, retro guitar sounds, indie rock, hip hop, electro sounds, all come into that sound and you put all of that lot together you get what she's doing now. Its a very interesting evolution, none of its contrived, its just what she's got into, and she's been lucky enough to have it pay off.
I see a jibe about "real names." Why is her having a stage name bad either? Whether that be May Jailer, Sparkle Rope Jump Queen (love that name!) or the best one of all: Lana Del Rey. By your logic everybody from the likes of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury and Eminem must be crap too.
How is Lana faking it? I mean really? Yes she's created the larger than life glamour puss Lana Del Rey character, but she runs through that persona her own experiences and emotions. Its her words and her story. If you go all the way back to May Jailer, she's singing about similar issues and characters from her life but they've evolved since then, as has her music.
As a personality she strikes me as a shy person who has created these stage persona's so she can express herself. Like a lot of great musicians have done in the history of music. And yes I said shy. Its the weirdest LDR contradiction of the lot, as she's definitely someone who's a tough cookie, highly intelligent and pretty badass to boot, but fans remark over an over again how ridiculously awkwardly shy she is as a person. And nice too.
Most people who've ever met her or worked with her say she's one of the nicest people they've ever met. She also seems to go out of her way for her fan base, doing marathon signing sessions, often kissing and holding hands with people.
Yet, in the opinion of people like you, who've never met her, haven't listened to her music properly, know nothing of her actual history, haven't heard her sing live and prefer to judge her whatever B.S. is floating around in pretentious Indie land this week, she is the Devil Woman.
Well I said this on another thread before, but the Devil Woman has kicked everybody else's butts this year. Nobody has come close to her, end of conversation. Accept well, she isn't really a Devil Woman at all. Just a very nice charming young woman, with a bit of a wild flip side admittedly, that makes the best music going.
If she has stumbled as a live vocalist it is simply because she is a very shy person (I'll come back to this) who apparently gets stage fright from hell. Not helped by all the media hate she was taking at the time. It took her a little while to adjust, but she has done now. You're seeing the real Lana now and she's amazing. Just a shame people like you seem to continually judge her forever more on those few occasions she has faltered.
You are also totally wrong about none of Lana's style matching Nancy's. Once again your total ignorance of her material betrays you. Although it is just one influence of many. Lana's 1st (known) album, under the name of May Jailer, is just her playing acoustic guitar and singing Joni Mitchell, Nick Drake and country style songs. If you look through the whole of her music from that point to now, you can see the Nancy style, jazz, retro guitar sounds, indie rock, hip hop, electro sounds, all come into that sound and you put all of that lot together you get what she's doing now. Its a very interesting evolution, none of its contrived, its just what she's got into, and she's been lucky enough to have it pay off.
I see a jibe about "real names." Why is her having a stage name bad either? Whether that be May Jailer, Sparkle Rope Jump Queen (love that name!) or the best one of all: Lana Del Rey. By your logic everybody from the likes of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury and Eminem must be crap too.
How is Lana faking it? I mean really? Yes she's created the larger than life glamour puss Lana Del Rey character, but she runs through that persona her own experiences and emotions. Its her words and her story. If you go all the way back to May Jailer, she's singing about similar issues and characters from her life but they've evolved since then, as has her music.
As a personality she strikes me as a shy person who has created these stage persona's so she can express herself. Like a lot of great musicians have done in the history of music. And yes I said shy. Its the weirdest LDR contradiction of the lot, as she's definitely someone who's a tough cookie, highly intelligent and pretty badass to boot, but fans remark over an over again how ridiculously awkwardly shy she is as a person. And nice too.
Most people who've ever met her or worked with her say she's one of the nicest people they've ever met. She also seems to go out of her way for her fan base, doing marathon signing sessions, often kissing and holding hands with people.
Yet, in the opinion of people like you, who've never met her, haven't listened to her music properly, know nothing of her actual history, haven't heard her sing live and prefer to judge her whatever B.S. is floating around in pretentious Indie land this week, she is the Devil Woman.
Well I said this on another thread before, but the Devil Woman has kicked everybody else's butts this year. Nobody has come close to her, end of conversation. Accept well, she isn't really a Devil Woman at all. Just a very nice charming young woman, with a bit of a wild flip side admittedly, that makes the best music going.
she'll struggle with a second album without a major re-think imo. There's only so much mileage in her detached rich-girl ennui dressed as high art schtick...i can't see it fooling too many people twice
Originally Posted by my name is joe:
“she'll struggle with a second album without a major re-think imo. There's only so much mileage in her detached rich-girl ennui dressed as high art schtick...i can't see it fooling too many people twice
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“she'll struggle with a second album without a major re-think imo. There's only so much mileage in her detached rich-girl ennui dressed as high art schtick...i can't see it fooling too many people twice
”
If she release a second album (not sure about that),I think she is intelligent enough to know that.
Originally Posted by DRAGON LANCE:
“You are also totally wrong about none of Lana's style matching Nancy's. Once again your total ignorance of her material betrays you. Although it is just one influence of many. Lana's 1st (known) album, [/b]under the name of May Jailer[/b], is just her playing acoustic guitar and singing Joni Mitchell, Nick Drake and country style songs.”
“You are also totally wrong about none of Lana's style matching Nancy's. Once again your total ignorance of her material betrays you. Although it is just one influence of many. Lana's 1st (known) album, [/b]under the name of May Jailer[/b], is just her playing acoustic guitar and singing Joni Mitchell, Nick Drake and country style songs.”
She was only quoted, describing herself as a gangsta Nancy Sinatra; her idea not mine, so presumably she must have considered NS a major influence or why quote that? By the way name me one 'Lana' song that sounds like NS vocally or like any of her hits? Neither does she vaguely resemble Joni Mitchell or Nick Drake musically. As for mentionng she was known as "May Jailer", I understood she was previously known as Lizzy Grant. Poor girl. She does seem to suffer from a bit of an ID crisis.
Originally Posted by m06een00:
“She was only quoted, describing herself as a gangsta Nancy Sinatra; her idea not mine, so presumably she must have considered NS a major influence or why quote that? By the way name me one 'Lana' song that sounds like NS vocally or like any of her hits? Neither does she vaguely resemble Joni Mitchell or Nick Drake musically. As for mentionng she was known as "May Jailer", I understood she was previously known as Lizzy Grant. Poor girl. She does seem to suffer from a bit of an ID crisis.”
“She was only quoted, describing herself as a gangsta Nancy Sinatra; her idea not mine, so presumably she must have considered NS a major influence or why quote that? By the way name me one 'Lana' song that sounds like NS vocally or like any of her hits? Neither does she vaguely resemble Joni Mitchell or Nick Drake musically. As for mentionng she was known as "May Jailer", I understood she was previously known as Lizzy Grant. Poor girl. She does seem to suffer from a bit of an ID crisis.”
Do you know, two of the most famous current female artist have on the stage alternative personalities in their head, don't you?
Originally Posted by my name is joe:
“she'll struggle with a second album without a major re-think imo. There's only so much mileage in her detached rich-girl ennui dressed as high art schtick...i can't see it fooling too many people twice
”
“she'll struggle with a second album without a major re-think imo. There's only so much mileage in her detached rich-girl ennui dressed as high art schtick...i can't see it fooling too many people twice
”
If at first you don't succeed..
To be fair, there is 5 months left on this one but if I was a betting man.....)http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...81&postcount=6
The endorsements suggest some very influential people believe you will be wrong again.
Jaguar Cars, H&M, Mulberry, Versace so far.
Originally Posted by konebyvax:
“If at first you don't succeed.. To be fair, there is 5 months left on this one but if I was a betting man.....)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...81&postcount=6
The endorsements suggest some very influential people believe you will be wrong again. Jaguar Cars, H&M, Mulberry, Versace so far.”
“If at first you don't succeed..
To be fair, there is 5 months left on this one but if I was a betting man.....)http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...81&postcount=6
The endorsements suggest some very influential people believe you will be wrong again.
Jaguar Cars, H&M, Mulberry, Versace so far.”
pah! i'm never wrong twice
and if we can't all agree she's overrated we can at least agree she's over-endorsed
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