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Does anyone else feel sorry for Jay?
Seriously he is the innocent one in all of this and people are treating him like he was the one that killed Hev.
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Nope he saw the attack and should have done the right thing straight away.
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yes i do fell sorry for him
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Nope he saw the attack and should have done the right thing straight away.
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Agree I hate when they do the stupid slow judgmental walks through the square with everyone looking and saying stuff.
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Yes I feel sorry for him. Ben's attack on Heather was very quick, she died instantly there was nothing he could have done, but he should have owned up to what he saw, but couldn't because of Ben and Phil, but probably more Phil.
Problem is, he is the one out of prison, they can't take their anger out on Ben as he is inside, and they probably wouldn't dare have a go at Phil, so Jay is taking the brunt of everyones anger. |
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Yep, my heart is breaking for him.
![]() People think he was an accomplice but really, he was just there. |
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I would really love to know how hes getting all the brunt but not Phil and Ben when it was all thier fault
![]() Its really uncomfortable to watch, everyone going for him like that
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I loved his scene tonight with Patrick...
I think Cora and Patrick will look out for Jay... |
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Yes I feel incredibly sorry for him. I honestly believe that he has suffered the most guilt and remorse since her death, he's tried to go to the Police a couple of times and been leant on wither with physical threats or emotional blackmail and the carrot of being part of a family. And at he end of the day, he has no-one: all these Mitchells put their biological kin before him. Billy is a coward and I'm glad they raised the Jase issue again and you can see his point - Lola is in a very dodgy position keeping Lexie and herself out of care or Juvvy but Phil. He's a monster, you'll walk out the way you walked in - with nothing. Charming.
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Yes I do, bless him
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Of course. The actor was fantastic. Made you feel Jay's loneliness
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To be honest a lot of the people judging him haven't exactly done great things themselves!
I feel really sorry for him! |
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I don't, he should have done the right thing straight away. He still wasn't going to do it until he was caught and he absolutely had to do it.
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Yes i feel so sorry for him, it seems people are 'hating' on him more than ben, i just wanted to give him a big hug
![]() All the people he saw as family and supposedly loved him turn against him, and everything he said to billy was the truth. |
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Only to an extent. He was far too laid back about it at the begining of the episode. Then he gave Patrick his excuse about having to look after his poor little brother. He expected Billy to take him in even though he'd chosen Phil over him.
In the end scenes we saw a change, a realization of the consequences of his misplaced loyalty, and only then did I feel sorry for him. |
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Yes i feel so sorry for him, it seems people are 'hating' on him more than ben, i just wanted to give him a big hug
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Yes I feel incredibly sorry for him. I honestly believe that he has suffered the most guilt and remorse since her death, he's tried to go to the Police a couple of times and been leant on wither with physical threats or emotional blackmail and the carrot of being part of a family. And at he end of the day, he has no-one: all these Mitchells put their biological kin before him. Billy is a coward and I'm glad they raised the Jase issue again and you can see his point - Lola is in a very dodgy position keeping Lexie and herself out of care or Juvvy but Phil. He's a monster, you'll walk out the way you walked in - with nothing. Charming.
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Yes I feel sorry for him. Ben's attack on Heather was very quick, she died instantly there was nothing he could have done, but he should have owned up to what he saw, but couldn't because of Ben and Phil, but probably more Phil.
Problem is, he is the one out of prison, they can't take their anger out on Ben as he is inside, and they probably wouldn't dare have a go at Phil, so Jay is taking the brunt of everyones anger. Quote:
yes i do fell sorry for him
I can understand Billy putting Lola and Lexi first but he shouldn't have been so quick to judge as regards Heather's death. Sadly because both Ben and Jay covered Phil's involvement from the police and only Shirley knows about that Jay is taking most of the blame, especially as people can't have a go at Ben since he is in prison. Though Phil was proven right in what he said that night "if anyone finds out what reall happened here tonight you two will be thought of as monsters and you'll be hunted down" except if Ben had confessed immediately and Jay had backed him up people might not have been as angry as they are now. |
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Only to an extent. He was far too laid back about it at the begining of the episode. Then he gave Patrick his excuse about having to look after his poor little brother. He expected Billy to take him in even though he'd chosen Phil over him.
In the end scenes we saw a change, a realization of the consequences of his misplaced loyalty, and only then did I feel sorry for him. |
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I was very sorry for Jay last night. Phil is a monster - more so than Ben imo. Throwing poor Jay out with nothing just because Jay did the right thing and refused to change his statement. He even told Phil Ben wanted him to tell the truth.
I can understand Billy putting Lola and Lexi first but he shouldn't have been so quick to judge as regards Heather's death. Sadly because both Ben and Jay covered Phil's involvement from the police and only Shirley knows about that Jay is taking most of the blame, especially as people can't have a go at Ben since he is in prison. Though Phil was proven right in what he said that night "if anyone finds out what reall happened here tonight you two will be thought of as monsters and you'll be hunted down" except if Ben had confessed immediately and Jay had backed him up people might not have been as angry as they are now. In Billy's case, I'd say what he did on the night Jase died (i.e. hide in the shower) gives him even less of a right to judge Jay. |
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I agree with your post.
In Billy's case, I'd say what he did on the night Jase died (i.e. hide in the shower) gives him even less of a right to judge Jay. |
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I agree. Again I do undestand why Billy did what he did but I agree that it gives him less of a right to judge Jay. Billy knows Jay. He must know if he bothered to think about it that Jay was in a difficult situation and it wasn't just a case of standing by and watching Ben lash out at Heather - that is not in Jay's character. And I see from the spoilers that nobody has thought back to Jay's behaviour the last few weeks (his supposed food poisoning on the night Heather died, his arguments with Phil and Ben, his depression, the way he clung to Abi before she left etc).
Unfortunately, the residents of Walford aren't exactly the best judges of character and for a number of people who dislike him - Max, Tanya, Andrew and Cora - his odd behaviour might be misconstrued as him struggling to come to terms with "his part in her murder". |
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.... And I see from the spoilers that nobody has thought back to Jay's behaviour the last few weeks (his supposed food poisoning on the night Heather died, his arguments with Phil and Ben, his depression, the way he clung to Abi before she left etc).
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I dont feel all that sorry for him. As soon as he saw what happened he could have told the police. Sure he would have been kicked out of the mitchells but billy definitely would have taken him in.
Even now he could tell marsden the truth, how phil has threatened and blackmailed him into covering for ben. Surely its clear to jay now that phil thinks less of him that he does his son who murdered somebody. He has no loyalty to phil anymore so unless he tells everything to the police i have no sympathy at all. He didnt kill heather but he stood by and covered for ben for too long. He could have confessed the night they were all questioned. |
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Maybe Bert will come back and take of him now
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Yes-he may not have done the right thing at the time but we've seen that he's been through a hell of a lot. On top of him taking the abuse that Ben should have got he's now ended up homeless. With any luck Patrick (and Cora?) will look after him and set him on the straight and narrow.
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