[Joni M]

Hicky, this is just a question and feel free to not respond if you wish.

But, do you ever reconsider what you say to people and maybe sometimes feel that in trying to drive your point, your posts can appear insensitive and sometimes offensive in their nature?

It's just that you don't seem to have grasped the subject matter, people are talking about their dead children, but you don't appear to have taken into account the pain and suffering attributed to those who may well have been really upset when recounting their experiences on here.

I feel you seemed to just brush that under the carpet, without any empathy or acknowledgment of their emotions, in order to get back to your issue.

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by Gemo52

Thank you.



Some people plant trees to give other plants shade. :)

Did you try the asparagus peas and Romanesco?


Shortly after my son was born Mr G had a commission which involved taking photographs at power stations (for Ash Marketing of the CEGB), one afternoon he went off to take his shots and while he was out a police man and woman came to the door. I could feel the blood drain to my feet. Turned out a security guy had seen Mr G taking the pictures and didn’t know he was supposed to be there, the police were rung and our address found from his car registration. It didn’t take long for me to sort out the misunderstanding with the police and they were very pleasant, said they were happy that they weren’t there for the reason I initially thought and that that was part of their job.

Planting tree's is ok if the owner looks after them, 99% don't and let them become a darn nuisance to their neighbours.

I was late planting the Asparagus Peas, they are growing but with these cold nights coming i think they will be restricted, i have some pods on, very strange looking aren't they, haven't had enough to taste yet though.

The Romanesque is growing fine, it will have to over winter now.

I have a Mango tree growing, i planted a stone a long time ago, never dreamt it would grow.
I'll leave it in the summer house and put the fan heater on to stop it getting too cold till next spring.

You could have died from a heart attack seeing a couple of police at the door.
Now if they had rang or text you it would have been fine.

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by Joni M

Hicky, this is just a question and feel free to not respond if you wish.

But, do you ever reconsider what you say to people and maybe sometimes feel that in trying to drive your point, your posts can appear insensitive and sometimes offensive in their nature?

It's just that you don't seem to have grasped the subject matter, people are talking about their dead children, but you don't appear to have taken into account the pain and suffering attributed to those who may well have been really upset when recounting their experiences on here.

I feel you seemed to just brush that under the carpet, without any empathy or acknowledgment of their emotions, in order to get back to your issue.

It's all in the mind, we are discussing the best way to be told bad news.

All ways seem the same to me, it can be dressed up however you like, it doesn't change the fact.

I'm not sensitive or sentimental, i just say it as i see it.

[Gemo52]

Originally Posted by Hicky

You mean you need special training to tell a person that someone has died, come on, what special training is this then?

Any tree thats over 12ft in height should be pruned each year to that height so it doesn't deprive others of much needed sunlight.

Never heard of someone with Sun Allergy sitting outside in the sun, trees or not.


There isn't a nice way, all ways of finding out bad news are the same, it's only the mental attitude of the receiver that changes.

Just one of the many examples out there.

Because you have ever heard of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

[Gemo52]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Planting tree's is ok if the owner looks after them, 99% don't and let them become a darn nuisance to their neighbours.

I was late planting the Asparagus Peas, they are growing but with these cold nights coming i think they will be restricted, i have some pods on, very strange looking aren't they, haven't had enough to taste yet though.

The Romanesque is growing fine, it will have to over winter now.

I have a Mango tree growing, i planted a stone a long time ago, never dreamt it would grow.
I'll leave it in the summer house and put the fan heater on to stop it getting too cold till next spring.

You could have died from a heart attack seeing a couple of police at the door.
Now if they had rang or text you it would have been fine.

They have pretty, frilly pods.

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Hicky

You mean you need special training to tell a person that someone has died, come on, what special training is this then?.

I am sure the details are easily available. Here is the job description for officers. The detailed version can be downloaded. http://www.prospects.ac.uk/police_of...escription.htm

Originally Posted by Hicky

Any tree thats over 12ft in height should be pruned each year to that height so it doesn't deprive others of much needed sunlight..

Says who? Who made you king of the trees? *cancels pruning and whacks a load of fertilizer on them*

Originally Posted by Hicky

Never heard of someone with Sun Allergy sitting outside in the sun, trees or not..

Well you have now. I dont know of anyone who doesn't.

Originally Posted by Hicky

There isn't a nice way, all ways of finding out bad news are the same, it's only the mental attitude of the receiver that changes.

What makes you come to that conclusion when all evidence and observation tells us the opposite is true?
This might be true in your case, but can you not see that for most people it is different?

[Joni M]

Honey, Hicky seems to think you are a a real life vampire.

Seems you should either sit in a box in the garden, deprived of natural light or just frazzle

Seems a bit bonkers when a simple tree, of which Hicky has zillions, gives you ample cover and Vitamin D to boot.


I can just see you, Elfy, CL and the menagerie doing the box task in the garden now, with ickle photies, posting in Braille on DS

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Hicky

Planting tree's is ok if the owner looks after them, 99% don't and let them become a darn nuisance to their neighbours.

I was late planting the Asparagus Peas, they are growing but with these cold nights coming i think they will be restricted, i have some pods on, very strange looking aren't they, haven't had enough to taste yet though.

The Romanesque is growing fine, it will have to over winter now.

I have a Mango tree growing, i planted a stone a long time ago, never dreamt it would grow.
I'll leave it in the summer house and put the fan heater on to stop it getting too cold till next spring.

You could have died from a heart attack seeing a couple of police at the door.
Now if they had rang or text you it would have been fine.

Show me where you get this 99% idea from. I am pretty sure that 99% of trees are completely unnoticed and uncared about by neighbours.

Originally Posted by Hicky

It's all in the mind, we are discussing the best way to be told bad news.

All ways seem the same to me, it can be dressed up however you like, it doesn't change the fact.

I'm not sensitive or sentimental, i just say it as i see it.

Then you need to pretend to be sensitive so you dont upset other people.

I think this is not typical of your character. When we lost Baldrick you were sensitive and supportive, and you have been the same when anyone here has suffered a loss.
Are you feeling ok in general?

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Joni M

Honey, Hicky seems to think you are a a real life vampire.

Seems you should either sit in a box in the garden, deprived of natural light or just frazzle

Seems a bit bonkers when a simple tree, of which Hicky has zillions, gives you ample cover and Vitamin D to boot.


I can just see you, Elfy, CL and the menagerie doing the box task in the garden now, with ickle photies, posting in Braille on DS

Dont give Elfy ideas! He loved the box task and he will force us all to do it in a heartbeat (he "KNOWS" he would win. I know otherwise )

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by Gemo52

Just one of the many examples out there.

Because you have ever heard of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. :rolleyes:

It says trained in grief counselling.
Thats for after they have been told.

Originally Posted by Gemo52

They have pretty, frilly pods.

I have a few growing but only 1" long the pods, very unusual.

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

I am sure the details are easily available. Here is the job description for officers. The detailed version can be downloaded. http://www.prospects.ac.uk/police_of...escription.htm
Says who? Who made you king of the trees? *cancels pruning and whacks a load of fertilizer on them*

Well you have now. I dont know of anyone who doesn't.

What makes you come to that conclusion when all evidence and observation tells us the opposite is true?
This might be true in your case, but can you not see that for most people it is different?

It says 'trained to be sensitive'
Which means they wouldn't be without training, well i haven't been trained, load of rubbish.

None of my tree's are over 12ft, they would be too shady and a problem to keep pruned, thats why people plant them and then ignore them.

Originally Posted by Joni M

Honey, Hicky seems to think you are a a real life vampire.

Seems you should either sit in a box in the garden, deprived of natural light or just frazzle :D

Seems a bit bonkers when a simple tree, of which Hicky has zillions, gives you ample cover and Vitamin D to boot.


I can just see you, Elfy, CL and the menagerie doing the box task in the garden now, with ickle photies, posting in Braille on DS :D

Honey is talking tosh.

To cover yourself up from the sun to go and be in the sun but to sit in the shade, s tree is static, the sun moves around 180%, so you would have to keep moving your seat or else have a massive tree.:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

Show me where you get this 99% idea from. I am pretty sure that 99% of trees are completely unnoticed and uncared about by neighbours.


Then you need to pretend to be sensitive so you dont upset other people.

I think this is not typical of your character. When we lost Baldrick you were sensitive and supportive, and you have been the same when anyone here has suffered a loss.
Are you feeling ok in general? :)

Only 1% of householders care too hoots about their neighbours and whether their trees are shading their garden.

After a tree has been left to grow and not pruned it can reach dizzy heights in no time at all, it then becomes to big for the ordinary householder to prune as they don't have the correct tools to do the job.
They then leave it a couple of years and then it is out of control.

A lot of trees grow 3m (10ft) a year easy.

I had one at the bottom of the garden, i got fed up with cutting 20 branches that were 3m long each so i cut the tree down, a lot easier and you only have to do it once.

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Hicky

It says 'trained to be sensitive'
Which means they wouldn't be without training, well i haven't been trained, load of rubbish.

Why would you be trained? You weren't a policeman were you?
In my opinion you could do with sensitivity training or a smack about the chops.

Originally Posted by Hicky

None of my tree's are over 12ft, they would be too shady and a problem to keep pruned, thats why people plant them and then ignore them.

Who cares how big your trees are? It doesn't affect me and mine dont affect you. .
It is very presumptuous to insist that my trees harm the neighbours when they do not at all, and indeed were planted in a location that ensures no interference
Mine are dwarves compared to theirs in any case. .

Originally Posted by Hicky

Honey is talking tosh.

To cover yourself up from the sun to go and be in the sun but to sit in the shade, s tree is static, the sun moves around 180%, so you would have to keep moving your seat or else have a massive tree.:

Precisely.
You might want to read this before making any more crass remarks about stuff you are ignorant about. http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH...339/25934.html

Originally Posted by Hicky

Only 1% of householders care too hoots about their neighbours and whether their trees are shading their garden.

As i thought. You made it up.

Originally Posted by Hicky

After a tree has been left to grow and not pruned it can reach dizzy heights in no time at all, it then becomes to big for the ordinary householder to prune as they don't have the correct tools to do the job.
They then leave it a couple of years and then it is out of control.

A lot of trees grow 3m (10ft) a year easy.

You do know that trees have a limit dont you? When was the last time you saw a sky high plum?

Originally Posted by Hicky

I had one at the bottom of the garden, i got fed up with cutting 20 branches that were 3m long each so i cut the tree down, a lot easier and you only have to do it once.

Well you shouldn't have planted it in the first place, should you?
Surely one of your lads could have helped with the pruning?
Just because you cant cope with big trees doesn't mean others cant.

[Janet29]

Originally Posted by Hicky

You mean you need special training to tell a person that someone has died, come on, what special training is this then?

Any tree thats over 12ft in height should be pruned each year to that height so it doesn't deprive others of much needed sunlight.

Never heard of someone with Sun Allergy sitting outside in the sun, trees or not.


There isn't a nice way, all ways of finding out bad news are the same, it's only the mental attitude of the receiver that changes.

Good afternnon Hicky

im just thankful its not you

the memory of the event can be more devastating that it needs to be if its traumatic and not handled senstively...some people never get over it depending how it is handled and can blight their life for years

as a caring family man im shocked you are saying this

thats the last im going to say on it as i cant believe you are arguing over an issue such as this

[honeythewitch]

Here is a snapshot from my garden. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwEA&dur=119

And here is my CL parking the car in the garden. http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...d_4p.widec.jpg

We pruned a branch or two...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...EwBA&dur=13414

Here is next door's garden...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bla...9,r:0,s:0,i:71

[Flora Poste]

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

Here is a snapshot from my garden. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwEA&dur=119

And here is my CL parking the car in the garden. http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...d_4p.widec.jpg

We pruned a branch or two...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...EwBA&dur=13414

Here is next door's garden...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bla...9,r:0,s:0,i:71

especially next doors garden

[nowahalla]

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

Here is a snapshot from my garden. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwEA&dur=119

And here is my CL parking the car in the garden. http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...d_4p.widec.jpg

We pruned a branch or two...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...EwBA&dur=13414

Here is next door's garden...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bla...9,r:0,s:0,i:71

I must admit your family (and garden) are not quite as I had imagined.......

[Joni M]

Originally Posted by Flora Poste

especially next doors garden

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, I just literally howled at that

[Artemesia]

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

Here is a snapshot from my garden. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwEA&dur=119

And here is my CL parking the car in the garden. http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...d_4p.widec.jpg

We pruned a branch or two...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...EwBA&dur=13414

Here is next door's garden...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bla...9,r:0,s:0,i:71

Hahahahaha What on earth have you been feeding CL....

[Artemesia]

I didn't want to bring the thread down or start a row last night, I was responding to the news item being discussed by pointing out that I felt the police should have let the next-of-kin know sooner, and that this had happened to me pre social networking.

Hicky, I know you pride yourself on saying it how you see it, but let me assure you that how you are told, DOES matter.
I venture to say that if you and Mrs. Hicky had had a reporter shouting through your letterbox that your small child's body had been found, when she had been abducted the previous day and would you like to give an interview, you would find it deeply traumatic, as opposed to someone breaking it sensitively.
Just ask Mrs. Hicky if you don't believe me.
There are many ghastly questions that need answering too, as you can imagine, and it takes someone with skill and sensitivity to help you through what must be done.

That is all I have to say on the matter.

[poppynymph]

art my heart goes out to yous.(((((hugs))))) how awful cant imagin what you must of went through.some people (hicky)should show a bit more compassion and sensitivity.

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

Why would you be trained? You weren't a policeman were you?
In my opinion you could do with sensitivity training or a smack about the chops.

Who cares how big your trees are? It doesn't affect me and mine dont affect you. .
It is very presumptuous to insist that my trees harm the neighbours when they do not at all, and indeed were planted in a location that ensures no interference
Mine are dwarves compared to theirs in any case. .

Precisely. :rolleyes:
You might want to read this before making any more crass remarks about stuff you are ignorant about. http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH...339/25934.html


As i thought. You made it up.

You do know that trees have a limit dont you? When was the last time you saw a sky high plum?

Well you shouldn't have planted it in the first place, should you?
Surely one of your lads could have helped with the pruning?
Just because you cant cope with big trees doesn't mean others cant.

I was in the Military Police a short while. but they were teaching us weapon training not how to make house to house calls.

Couldn't find where they advised planting a tree so you could sit in the shade:DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Any tree will grow as big as it's rootstock will let it and considering the type and condition of the ground it's growing in.

My Ex next door neighbour had 3 massive fruit trees which at times overhung my land and deposited a mass of dreadful purple fruit everywhere, they never cut them or sprayed them or anything.

One day they deserted the place, we thought they had done a bunk, me and my lad took a piece of fence out and cut the trees down.

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

Here is a snapshot from my garden. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwEA&dur=119

And here is my CL parking the car in the garden. http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...d_4p.widec.jpg

We pruned a branch or two...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...EwBA&dur=13414

Here is next door's garden...http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bla...9,r:0,s:0,i:71

I'm sure those trees shade you neighbour.

Here's my little apple tree, can be awkward getting the apples though.
Shouldn't have let it get so big, like yours.:DDDDDDDDD

http://www.cathedralgrove.eu/pictures/03-4-meares.jpg

[honeythewitch]

Originally Posted by Hicky

I was in the Military Police a short while. but they were teaching us weapon training not how to make house to house calls.

Oooh i didnt know that and i am quite impressed. I am sure you would have been just fine if the situation called for it.

Originally Posted by Hicky

Couldn't find where they advised planting a tree so you could sit in the shadeDDDDDDDDDDDDD

It works quite well actually, you just do whatever you can. At least im living in the right place for no sun

Originally Posted by Hicky

Any tree will grow as big as it's rootstock will let it and considering the type and condition of the ground it's growing in.

I agree that you have to be very careful what you plant and make sure it is suitable. Our middle tree was supposed to be a miniature but it turned out not to be. It isnt very big, but taller than we wanted. The twisted willow i got last year is in a small pot and hasnt done much but i think they are always a bit slow. The Christmas tree is thriving too.

Originally Posted by Hicky

I
My Ex next door neighbour had 3 massive fruit trees which at times overhung my land and deposited a mass of dreadful purple fruit everywhere, they never cut them or sprayed them or anything.

One day they deserted the place, we thought they had done a bunk, me and my lad took a piece of fence out and cut the trees down.

One day? You mean they went shopping and you chopped the tree down?
You know you are entitled to any overhanging fruit and you can chop whatever is on your side? I does sound a nuisance though. Did they find out?

Originally Posted by Hicky

I
I'm sure those trees shade you neighbour.

My (real) trees really aren't anywhere near either neighbour because the garden is wide and they are in the middle.

Originally Posted by Hicky

Here's my little apple tree, can be awkward getting the apples though.
Shouldn't have let it get so big, like yours.DDDDDDDD

http://www.cathedralgrove.eu/pictures/03-4-meares.jpg

I think I've had one of your apples.... http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwAQ&dur=210

[Scots rool]

Evening all

[Hicky]

Originally Posted by honeythewitch

Oooh i didnt know that and i am quite impressed. I am sure you would have been just fine if the situation called for it.

It works quite well actually, you just do whatever you can. At least im living in the right place for no sun :D

I agree that you have to be very careful what you plant and make sure it is suitable. Our middle tree was supposed to be a miniature but it turned out not to be. It isnt very big, but taller than we wanted. The twisted willow i got last year is in a small pot and hasnt done much but i think they are always a bit slow. The Christmas tree is thriving too. :)


:eek: One day? You mean they went shopping and you chopped the tree down?
You know you are entitled to any overhanging fruit and you can chop whatever is on your side? I does sound a nuisance though. Did they find out?
My (real) trees really aren't anywhere near either neighbour because the garden is wide and they are in the middle.

I think I've had one of your apples.... http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwAQ&dur=210

I was moved from the MP's into a cipher security job, cushy really.

If you plant anythingin a pot then the size of the pot can dictate the size of the plant, root size plays a bit part in nthe overall size of the plant.

They seemed to have abandoned the house, so after a few days we went in the garden and cut the trees down, they were probably 20ft high at least with massive branches, but after 25 years we had had enough.
We said to them once about their tree's as some in the front were through the telephone wires and the roots were pushing our front flags up.

But anyway, a nice neighbour over the front rang them and told them.

Originally Posted by Scots rool

Evening all :)

Evening SR.:)

[acker]

er .....heres some sleeping cat pics ( I hope ) ... ( thank you Jonathan Ross )

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

I know the last one isnt actually asleep but maybe it was tired .

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

[Scots rool]

Originally Posted by acker

er .....heres some sleeping cat pics ( I hope ) ... ( thank you Jonathan Ross )

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

I know the last one isnt actually asleep but maybe it was tired .

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sle...w=1264&bih=835

Awwww cute overload.