The Ratings Thread (Part 39)

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Wynne Evans

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by Andy Parish:
“Some real guff posted on this thread today.

Starting it's 7th series in the modern era, Doctor Who will/should timeshift to around 8.6m. Which is pretty much in line with every single series opener since it returned.

Next.... :yawn:”

I agree, the Tennant obsessives need to find closure and move on.

mlt11

03-09-2012

Officials w/e 26/8/12:

Other channels = 50.1% - all time record

First time ever that "Other channels" have exceeded 50% of viewing.

NB. "Other channels" = everything except main 5 channels and their +1 variants.

ITV1 - 11.9% (exc +1 and HD)

Not a record but I think a noteworthy figure. If we exclude the 3 weeks of the Olympics, ITV1's all time record low (exc +1 and HD) is 11.6%. 11.9% looks like the 4th lowest ever (excluding Olympics) but it's with XF back.

Same week last year was 12.9% so it's down 8% vs PY.

Wynne Evans

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“BBC One
18:30 Britain's Hidden Heritage: 3.29m (17.4%)
19:30 Countryfile: 4.96m (21.8%)
20:30 Inspector George Gently: 6.08m (24.6%)
22:25 Match of the Day 2: 3.02m (21.3%)

BBC Two
20:00 Top Gear: 1.82m (7.7%)
21:00 Toughest Place to be a... Nurse: 1.7m (6.8%)

ITV1
19:00 Coronation Street: 5.87m (27.2%); +1: 392k/1.7%
20:00 The Cube: 2.81m (11.9%); +1: 137k/0.6%
21:00 The Last Weekend: 2.01m (8.1%); +1: 214k/1.2%

Channel 4
19:00 Paralympic Games Tonight: 3.2m (14%); +1: 107k/0.5%
*peak audience: over 4m at 21:30.

Channel 5
21:00 Celebrity Big Brother: 1.75m (7%); +1: 115k/0.6%
22:00 9/11: Escape from the Impact Zone: 1.1m (5.7%)

BBC Three
22:00 Family Guy: 1.23m (5.8%)

ITV2
19:00 The X Factor: 693k (3.2%); +1: 228k/1%
20:00 The Xtra Factor: 685k (2.9%); +1: 244k/1%

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 22.4%
Channel 4: 13.9% (+1: 0.4%)
ITV1: 12.7% (+1: 0.9%)
BBC Two: 5.9%
Channel 5: 4.1% (+1: 0.3%)

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...day-night.html”

Countryfile down I see, not surprised two bland talent free voids formerly of Blue Peter must have annoyed a few folk, Skelton shows her ignorance with every breath she takes as for Baker enough said.

cylon6

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“GMTV, err, Daybreak's relaunch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa9_iOiaWsY

Compare with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhTWxnMEVBg”

Okay this has been bugging me. Aled Jones isn't a journalist. If a big news story breaks will he able to cover it properly? I'm reminded of when Debbie Greenwood was on Breakfast Time and I think Libya attack by America broke during the programme. Frank or possibly Selina did the hard hitting interviews and Greenwood popped up every few minutes to say "tell us what the weather's like Francis."

cylon6

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by Wynne Evans:
“Countryfile down I see, not surprised two bland talent free voids formerly of Blue Peter must have annoyed a few folk, Skelton shows her ignorance with every breath she takes as for Baker enough said.”

And nothing to do with facing Coronation Street? Matt Baker's been presenting it more or less since the evening revamp and it was doing well when not opposite Corrie. So that theory doesn't hold up.

I agree about them being bland. Likable but bland.

Nosnikrapl

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by trickytree1979:
“Downton Abbey Christmas Day Episode

Code:

'000 (avg) ITV1/HD Live 7,520.90 VOSDAL 984.50 Day 1 Playback 1,390.40 Day 2 Playback 765.30 Day 3 Playback 428.90 Day 4 Playback 182.40 Day 5 Playback 144.20 Day 6 Playback 106.70 Day 7 Playback 71.20 Total 11,594.50

”

Interesting we watched it early evening of 27th. Thing is I usually watch later on the night DA is shown but you don't have to bother about folks at work talking about it at Christmas!! Personally I can't be bothered to sit down & watch drama on Christmas Day - too much going on.

derek500

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Officials w/e 26/8/12:

Other channels = 50.1% - all time record

First time ever that "Other channels" have exceeded 50% of viewing.”

The main channels' weekly reach are low, too. All five have dropped (last year's in brackets).

BBC One - 79.1% (82.9%)
BBC Two - 58.2% (60.5%)
ITV 1 - 64.2% (70.1%)
C4 - 57.4% (60.2%)
C5 - 48.4% (55.7%)

The total watching all/any TV dropped slightly from 94.3% to 93.1%.

kittenkong42

03-09-2012

Really? I suspect most people tune into Countryfile on a weekly basis neither knowing or caring who is presenting that particular episode - they're watching Countryfile for the show, not the presenters. I think the reason the figure is lower this week would be down to a combination of being on halfway through an hour long run of Coronation Street, and the Paralympics getting a better than usual share on Channel 4. I mean I like the show and wasn't aware beforehand that Helen was presenting this week

.

And the repetitive Blue Peter digs from people at Matt Baker is also getting more than a little tired now he hasn't been presenting children's TV for about 6 years, and has been presenting Countryfile for 3 during which time it's turned into a pretty much constant Sunday night success story. It's fair enough not to like him but I think the record needs changing - I'm sure people can find some more recent reasons to think he's rubbish if they want

(Personally - I like him and think he does a good job on the show, it's much more engaging now than it ever was when it was on Sunday mornings.)

jake lyle

03-09-2012

We may have the reason why so little of the controlller sessions from Edinburgh went on to their website.

Quote:
“Monkey surmised at the Edinburgh TV festival that Kirsty Young can write off any freelance work for C4, since the atmosphere when she interviewed its chief creative officer Jay Hunt was chilly enough for delegates to feel a need for a jumper. And Friday's Daily Mail, noting the session was not subsequently screened online as usual, had confirmation from C4 that "we felt the questions were unbalanced". Hunt no doubt expected the purring Desert Island Discs hostess, but instead got claws-out Kirsty, who put her on the spot about the ethics of Big Fat Gypsy Weddings and Embarrassing Bodies.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/medi...a-monkey-diary
The controller of C5 had a much tougher session than that in 2011. Danny Cohen got some real tough questions from Kirsty Wark in his session this year about the Royal Bodyguard and the Jubilee coverage, but unlike Hunt he admitted that they got those things wrong and the session moved on.The Big problem with Hunt is that she never admits that she got things wrong.
DS blogged her session here
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...channel-4.html

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“ Greenwood popped up every few minutes to say "tell us what the weather's like Francis."”

This made me howl

Christine Bleakley wasn't a journalist either.

KennyT

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Officials w/e 26/8/12:...
First time ever that "Other channels" have exceeded 50% of viewing.”

[pedant]
Due to rounding, the first time it exceeded 50% was probably w/e 14/8/11, when the "main channels" totalled 49.9%
[/pedant]

K

Wynne Evans

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by kittenkong42:
“Really? I suspect most people tune into Countryfile on a weekly basis neither knowing or caring who is presenting that particular episode - they're watching Countryfile for the show, not the presenters. I think the reason the figure is lower this week would be down to a combination of being on halfway through an hour long run of Coronation Street, and the Paralympics getting a better than usual share on Channel 4. I mean I like the show and wasn't aware beforehand that Helen was presenting this week .

And the repetitive Blue Peter digs from people at Matt Baker is also getting more than a little tired now he hasn't been presenting children's TV for about 6 years, and has been presenting Countryfile for 3 during which time it's turned into a pretty much constant Sunday night success story. It's fair enough not to like him but I think the record needs changing - I'm sure people can find some more recent reasons to think he's rubbish if they want (Personally - I like him and think he does a good job on the show, it's much more engaging now than it ever was when it was on Sunday mornings.)”

Your are entitled to your opinion but I like presenters with knowledge and gravitas, Baker and Skelton are certainly not competent enough, their place is on kiddies tv.

The mere sight of the talent free void that is Skelton was enough for us to switch off, if I had a barb setup then that would have impacted on the shows ratings.

cylon6

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“I also just want to point out that an impressive timeshift doesn't negate an impressive overnight rating. There seems to be an emerging idea amongst Doctor Who fans that the two are mutually exclusive and they aren't. If memory serves both Downton Abbey and Sherlock and boast pretty impressive timeshifts (and Sherlock can add impressive iPlayer stats to that as well) and both of those do incredibly well in the overnights. (Also what was Call The Midwife doing in timeshift? I honestly don't remember)”

Call The Midwife was an absolute ratings beast for BBC1 getting massive overnights of 8m+ and huge timeshifts of 1.9m some weeks. The final episode had a massive rise in finals from 9.2m to 11.41m. Amazing!

Dancc

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“We may have the reason why so little of the controlller sessions from Edinburgh went on to their website.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/medi...a-monkey-diary
The controller of C5 had a much tougher session than that in 2011. Danny Cohen got some real tough questions from Kirsty Wark in his session this year about the Royal Bodyguard and the Jubilee coverage, but unlike Hunt he admitted that they got those things wrong and the session moved on.The Big problem with Hunt is that she never admits that she got things wrong.
DS blogged her session here
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...channel-4.html”

Richard Bacon who is always slating C5 on his radio show and in the newspaper chaired their session this year, and was apparently quite aggressive on the issue of Big Brother ratings, so what are C4 complaining about? Kirsty Young is a pussycat compared to Bacon who thinks he's Paxman when he gets going. I don't think any of the controllers were given an easy time of it, but I would still like to see the full sessions and I hope MG oblige.

cylon6

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by Wynne Evans:
“Your are entitled to your opinion but I like presenters with knowledge and gravitas, Baker and Skelton are certainly not competent enough, their place is on kiddies tv.

The mere sight of the talent free void that is Skelton was enough for us to switch off, if I had a barb setup then that would have impacted on the shows ratings.”

Matt Baker has done Countryfile for years when it rated well and all of a sudden as if by magic viewers have had an epiphany that they don't like him as a host? Not likely. The viewers went to Coronation Street and possibly The Paralympics.

trickytree1979

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“[pedant]
Due to rounding, the first time it exceeded 50% was probably w/e 14/8/11, when the "main channels" totalled 49.9%
[/pedant]

K”

The interesting thing about the 'Other Channels' is that over the last few years, although it has grown, its largely been due to the digital portfolio of the terrestrial channels themselves. For the last couple of years the main terrestrial channels as broadcaster groups have held their market share and stopped the rot, and mainly by their additional channels. So, although the main channels contribute less in total terms, content from the main broadcasters is being watched.

http://www.barb.co.uk/facts/tv-trends?_s=4

kittenkong42

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Matt Baker has done Countryfile for years when it rated well and all of a sudden as if by magic viewers have had an epiphany that they don't like him as a host? Not likely. The viewers went to Coronation Street and possibly The Paralympics.”

I agree completely

. He's been presenting Countryfile as a main host since its relaunch and I don't think anyone miraculously decided after 3 years that they didn't like him anymore. But the presence of Helen on the show allows the tired "kids TV" argument to be resurrected by people again even though it's seriously out of date

F1Ken

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Officials w/e 26/8/12:

Other channels = 50.1% - all time record

First time ever that "Other channels" have exceeded 50% of viewing.

NB. "Other channels" = everything except main 5 channels and their +1 variants.

ITV1 - 11.9% (exc +1 and HD)

Not a record but I think a noteworthy figure. If we exclude the 3 weeks of the Olympics, ITV1's all time record low (exc +1 and HD) is 11.6%. 11.9% looks like the 4th lowest ever (excluding Olympics) but it's with XF back.

Same week last year was 12.9% so it's down 8% vs PY.”

It got to 50% last year so only just. Still a sad day.

Bloody "Other" its mainly a load off old bollocks and more people watch it!

Ken

Charnham

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by SJB 2007:
“The Doctor Who episode last Saturday has already time-shifted 1m.”

I certainly cant wait to see how the finals for Doctor Who and X-Factor compare.

anyways Sunday, nice peak for the Paralympics, very good rating for Family Guy, odd given that it was a Meg episode.

ITV1 might as well have been renamed ITV Flop Zone, if its recent ratings are anything to go by.

KennyT

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“It got to 50% last year so only just. Still a sad day.

Bloody "Other" its mainly a load off old bollocks and more people watch it!

Ken”

But note trickytree's comments. Looking at the provided link, 10 years ago, the "true" others were getting just under 20% share, last year they got over 26%...

K

F1Ken

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by KennyT:
“But note trickytree's comments. Looking at the provided link, 10 years ago, the "true" others were getting just under 20% share, last year they got over 26%...

K”

That Cheered me up. Thanks for pointing that out. When You look at the combined figures off each broadcaster. ITV, BBC still rule the broadcasting seas.

Ken

derek500

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“Bloody "Other" its mainly a load off old bollocks and more people watch it!

Ken”

Most of my viewing is 'other' and I certainly don't watch 'bollocks'.

F1Ken

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by derek500:
“Most of my viewing is 'other' and I certainly don't watch 'bollocks'.”

I'd be worried If you did. Pull those trousers up Derek!

Ken

SamuelW

03-09-2012

Derek, would you watch the most amazing show in the world if it was not available on HD? Or is HD an absolute must? I dont see the big fuss about HD but I know youre a big fan

F1Ken

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Derek, would you watch the most amazing show in the world if it was not available on HD? Or is HD an absolute must? I dont see the big fuss about HD but I know youre a big fan ”

Good one!

Ken

mlt11

03-09-2012

Originally Posted by trickytree1979:
“The interesting thing about the 'Other Channels' is that over the last few years, although it has grown, its largely been due to the digital portfolio of the terrestrial channels themselves. For the last couple of years the main terrestrial channels as broadcaster groups have held their market share and stopped the rot, and mainly by their additional channels. So, although the main channels contribute less in total terms, content from the main broadcasters is being watched.

http://www.barb.co.uk/facts/tv-trends?_s=4”

Table 5 on the link shows total BBC share down from 38.50% to 33.19% over the last 9 years whereas total ITV share is only down from 24.87% to 23.09%.

Yet ITV1 has fallen much more than BBC1 over the same period. I guess that shows just how well the ITV digital channels have performed during the period.

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