The Ratings Thread (Part 39)

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NeilVW

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Can't remember the last US import to hit BBC1 on primetime (successfully), X-Files maybe? It'll probably work better on its sister station.”

And the BBC has committed to keeping imports largely out of primetime on its flagship channel. As discussed earlier, aside from films starting in late peak there really aren't any to speak of any more.

EDIT: Damages used to play out on Sunday evenings after the 10pm news - that's probably the last US series I can remember on primetime BBC1.

comedy89

05-09-2012

BBC have very little US content now on BBC 1 and BBC 2.

AlexiR

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“And tonight at least, you are very much outnumbered! This lot (amongst many more) loved it:”

Yes because a handful of tweets clearly demonstrates that more people liked it than disliked it...

Which isn't really the point anyway.

comedy89

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“And the BBC has committed to keeping imports largely out of primetime on its flagship channel. As discussed earlier, aside from films starting in late peak there really aren't any to speak of any more.”

Very little in daytime on the two channels its just Flog It and Cash on the Attic.

SamuelW

05-09-2012

AlexIr, if you type in #Dallas on Twitter and read the comments, 90% are positive from thousands of tweets about it. It's not just a handful of tweets but thousands.

JCR

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Can't remember the last US import to hit BBC1 on primetime (successfully), X-Files maybe? It'll probably work better on its sister station.

Dallas was good. Surprised other networks weren't interested. Be interesting to see if it can keep up the momentum for Channel 5.”

You could count Torchwood: Miracle Day as a US show

VirginMediaPhil

05-09-2012

Really enjoyed Mrs Biggs tonight. Tried watching Dallas on delay but disliked it.

Also, I thought this thread has decided that social networking was not a good gauge of how popular a show is?

comedy89

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Yes because a handful of tweets clearly demonstrates that more people liked it than disliked it...

Which isn't really the point anyway.”

Facebook is full of positive comments, Twitter is full of positive comments and US reviews of the series are very positive. Its a success get over it.

On the talk of BBC and their US imports they treat them poorly a good example would be Curb your Enthusiasm on BBC 4 though Channel 4 treated it no better. A programme like that could have been a big hit if promoted better. Though DVD sales are very goof for it in the UK.

JCR

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“AlexIr, if you type in #Dallas on Twitter and read the comments, 90% are positive from thousands of tweets about it. It's not just a handful of tweets but thousands.”

But there are thousands of tweets about, for example, pro wrestling from the UK every week. The main pro wrestling programme, WWE Raw, does 350 thousand viewers in the UK on a good week.

Thousands of tweets mean nothing at all in ratings terms.

NeilVW

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil:
“Also, I thought this thread has decided that social networking was not a good gauge of how popular a show is?”

True but we have very little to go on at night! It's not like in the movies where they get instant ratings when a show goes out.

AlexiR

05-09-2012

I'd have to go on Twitter to do that and why would I want to do that? Beyond that 'thousands of tweets' doesn't really mean anything. Its still a tiny number in the grand scheme of things. And again misses the point.

Belligerence

05-09-2012

Do note that Dallas (the original series) started out on Wednesday evenings on BBC1, before being shifted to Sunday afternoons (after the Eastenders omnibus) for the last few seasons. Ratings being the main factor; a measure Channel 5 would possibly take if interest wanes.

i4u

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Most watched Channel 5 programmes ever

Code:

# Programme Date Time Audience (Millions) 1 Euro 2000 Qualifier: England v Poland Wed 8 September 1999 1900 5,630,000 2 World Cup Qualifier: Albania v England Wed 28 March 2001 1900 5,590,000 3 Independence Day Tue 7 September 1999 2100 5,410,000

Thanks to Dancc for the original list, have adjusted it to include CBB 2011.”

Dallas, if the ratings are on a par with Ireland the average should be around 5.0m, will C5 have the luck of the Irish?

D.M.N.

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Do note that Dallas (the original series) started out on Wednesday evenings on BBC1, before being shifted to Sunday afternoons (after the Eastenders omnibus) for the last few seasons. Ratings being the main factor; a measure Channel 5 would possibly take if interest wanes.”

I strongly doubt it.

Say it starts off at 4m, even if it lost three quarters of that, 1m would still be good for Channel 5, it is not as cut throat nowadays either as it was back then with things being dumped mid-run and things.

AlexiR

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by comedy89:
“Facebook is full of positive comments, Twitter is full of positive comments and US reviews of the series are very positive. Its a success get over it.”

Ah yes Facebook and Twitter are literally full of positive Dallas comments...

And again all this misses the point.

Also the assertion that its a success is ridiculous in the context of that post.

Dancc

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by JCR:
“But there are thousands of tweets about, for example, pro wrestling from the UK every week. The main pro wrestling programme, WWE Raw, does 350 thousand viewers in the UK on a good week.

Thousands of tweets mean nothing at all in ratings terms.”

That's not what was meant. Alexi was trying to say, quite definitively, that the show is crap.

To counter that argument, a few of us were trying to highlight that the response online has been overwhelmingly positive. Even here on Digital Spy believe it or not.

It doesn't tell us much from a ratings point-of-view, no, except maybe just maybe the drop next week won't be too massive.

Salv*

05-09-2012

I hope Ch5 had a great night tonight. They really deserve it.

i4u

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It's not for you. But what doesn't work for you might work for other people.

And tonight at least, you are very much outnumbered! This lot (amongst many more) loved it:

Spoiler

Darren Hardie ‏@DarrenHardie
Loved that twist in #Dallas, I'm now completely hooked Plus they used Adele so they've got me sold!!

Faye ‏@pinkladyfay
Love love love the new #Dallas )

Joanne Graham ‏@justjoda
@ijjysmith I PURE love it!!!!! #dallas #dallason5

Paul Pixton ‏@ppixton
Amazing return. I'm far too young to remember watching the original but what an immense comeback! #Dallas #Dallasisback

Alan Rapley ‏@AlanRapley
#Dallas was brilliant !!! What a great opener to a new (old) series! #wicked

Sophie Smith ‏@sophiechowderX
Holy shit, I've found my new favourite tv programme #epiphany #Dallas #cheesypleasurenotguiltypleasure

Deborah McKean ‏@DebzKeano
Well #dallas was AMAZING !!! Roll on next wed !

JosieDorey ‏@JosieDorey
#Dallas is on series link already!

Temeikaa' ‏@SuperDuper_Tee
#dallas is actually seriously entertaining

Matt Langford ‏@mrmattlangford
Dallas was brilliant! #Dallas

♥ ♥ Nicky ♥ ♥ ‏@nickyjane68
I liked #Dallas can't wait for the next episode now.

Thierry Attard ‏@thierryattard
It was great. #Dallas

ann freeman ‏@annmfreeman
#Dallas fab tv just like the old days. Oil is thicker than blood!!!!

Pally ‏@PallyK
Cancer, wedding, oil, secret feelings, back stabbing, twists all in the first episode of #Dallas

A Ward MBCS ‏@azward72
The new Dallas? Thumbs up #Dallas

Suzanne ‏@suzyboo09
Love it how good was that I'm loving #Dallas can't wait for next week

Jonny Shaw ‏@shawso1
Ashamed to say it but Dallas was unreal!! #Dallas

Patrickstrasz ‏@LegsSpindle
I expected to be let down and have the original series tarnished... But no. It was bloody brilliant! #Dallas

Shaun Eley ‏@shauneley
That was worth waiting for!! #Dallas

Simone ‏@Simone_Summers
OMG I totally love the new #dallas can't wait for the next ep!!! xoxo

caroline ‏@pinknec76
WOW #Dallas just as good as when I was a youngster #loveit

Maya Pavin-Franks ‏@mayapf7
#Dallas was brilliant! Welcome back the Ewings!

Chris Knowles ‏@cknowles17
Hooked on #Dallas can't wait till next week

Laura Emily ‏@LaursCullen91
Epic total loved it roll on next Wednesday #Dallas Na night god bless x

Maleficent ‏@LaComtesseNoire
Can't wait for next week! Booya! #Dallas

Clare Dewhurst ‏@Dewy29
Double crossing , smouldering looks , fast cars and THE SAME MUSIC yeyyyyyyy !!!! #Dallas

”

That's the staff at the Daily Star securing their jobs for another month.

RobbieSykes123

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by garyessex:
“ITV drama does well and beats BBC1. Robbie barely even comments, funny that”

Well, I did comment on it. I pointed out that both dramas were well down on previous outing, and neither was anything to write home about.

I think ITV will have hoped for much more than 4m for its first star name Coro-led drama of the autumn season, against difficult McGovern drama on 1.

What more did you want me to say?

danisfunny

05-09-2012

Wow, it's very clear a certain user didn't like Dallas, and it seems everyone has to know....

Quick question.. What are the official "primetime" hours, because I always wonder which part of an evening drags down shares etc...

D.M.N.

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Ah yes Facebook and Twitter are literally full of positive Dallas comments...

And again all this misses the point.

Also the assertion that its a success is ridiculous in the context of that post.”

If you're referring to TNT's ratings - again - I wonder what TNT's slot average is?

If the show on Channel 5 drops from 4.0m to 1.5m before rebounding to 2.5m for the finale, does that make it a success in your mind because it is above the slot average or a failure because it lost viewers from start to finish?

(Although in C5's case, there is a repeat on Friday which could pick up an extra few viewers for next Wednesday)

D.M.N.

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by danisfunny:
“Wow, it's very clear a certain user didn't like Dallas, and it seems everyone has to know....

Quick question.. What are the official "primetime" hours, because I always wonder which part of an evening drags down shares etc...”

Attentional and ITV use 19:00 to 23:00, BBC use 18:00 to 22:30 and Channel 4 I think use 18:00 to midnight.

danisfunny

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Attentional and ITV use 19:00 to 23:00, BBC use 18:00 to 22:30 and Channel 4 I think use 18:00 to midnight.”

Okay, it'll be those 18:00 - 21:00 hours that drag C5 down and ITV1 up then?? Thankyou, I don't know what this forum would do without you...

Martin Phillp

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“
The Simpsons was initally on BBC1 for a few episodes, before moving to BBC2 from the second season.”

And scheduled on Saturday early evenings. It really didn't find it's mojo until it found it's home at weeknights at 6pm on BBC2, where C4 still schedule it to this day.

Dancc

05-09-2012

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“(Although in C5's case, there is a repeat on Friday which could pick up an extra few viewers for next Wednesday)”

C5 are still running the Dallas ident before programmes, now advertising the repeat on Friday.

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