I think when he says studio based he means more like The X Factor etc. Big Brother is set in a house - it just happens that to make it on TV, the house has to be in a studio complex.

The impression I got was that they're looking for anything between Big Brother and I'm A Celebrity - not like TOWIE. He mentioned a couple of Phil Edgar-Jones' other projects like Space Cadets and Shattered which were both big ideas set in an environment constructed for TV.

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DS says that's the highest audience so far for the EE omnibus. (EDIT: in its new slot of course.) It averaged almost as many over 110 minutes in the wee hours as the BBC3 same-night repeat got for half an hour at 22:30.


Truly dreadful for the Corrie factual spin-off to retain barely a fifth of the mothership's figure. You could almost call it blowing the inheritance...

A pathetic 7.2% share at 9pm. Thrashed almost 2:1 by In With the Flynns; trounced more than 2:1 by the BBC2 drama; walloped by C5's CBB with or without +1; pipped by a C4 panel/quiz show including +1. Ouch!

What went wrong? If it had been more like Corrie with Giraffes it might have had a chance. Fair play, PSB brownie points are due, I suppose, for getting a programme about HIV into Friday primetime, but it's not a subject that chimes well with the core ITV audience.

Maybe Sky will do a reality show set in a prison. Shows about prisons normally rate well on every channel.

the problem with Corrie Goes to Kenya: is that its not really anything to do with Corrie, its some B list celebrities visiting the 3rd world, and doing what there type always do in that situation. This is not what Corrie fans are overly interested in.

Now if this was a spin-off about some characters going to Kenya on holiday, it would be a whole different story.

If it's scripted and on Sky, it's the norm. Seems especially prevalent in sci-fi shows. Perhaps people like spinning back to see scenes again?

Doesn't Fringe timeshift from around 150k to 500k?

I think its already been asked before but what are people expecting for the Opening Ceremony on Wednesday?

I personally can't see it peaking over 10million. I think i am judging that based on the fact it is Channel 4 but that is how it goes. However i would like to wake up next morning and be surprised.

anyone know why CSI Miami is in a 70 minute slot, not the usual 60 minutes?

I would be surprised if it averaged less than 10m tbh. Also it kicks off at 8 I think, against some of the easiest opposition ever.

That's a pretty poor rating for Waterloo Road - the figures will get interesting over the next few weeks, as we'll see how viewers respond to the move to Scotland.

I still love the show. It's so ridiculous but it's such a guilty pleasure. I'm sure it's a guilty pleasure for many.

I think it's a mistake on DigiGuide. The C5 website has it scheduled for 10.10pm with Celebrity Big Brother airing across 70 minutes from 9pm:

http://www.channel5.com/schedule

It's 10.10pm to 11.10pm on Sky EPG.

Well i hope so, and i also hope that C4 or whoever will give same platform for Rio 16 Paralympics.

What is C4's all time top 10?

Veyr surprised at the eviction rating, yes with +1 it will be over 2m, but Thursday got 2.03m excluding +1 in the 10pm slot so it was weird to see the drop. Only thing I can think of his MBB taking away a few ratings from CBB.

Maybe they will after they show the 50 eps they are making in Scotland, read that in an interview with on of the Actors.

thanks both of you, that would mean, it no longer clashes with Casualty as well.

I thought when it was announced that they shouldn't have done it. I thought that it should have been brought to an end sooner.

You're right. At least for the 8pm hour, C4 couldn't really have wished for weaker competition next Wednesday. No soaps, of course; instead we have The Flowerpot Gang, Restoration Home, Super Tiny Animals, and Secret Interview. Not hard to see the Opening Ceremony scooping 50% of the audience and therefore 10m+ in that hour. (Although the miniature creatures did surprisingly well last time round, I recall. )

However things get a little trickier at 9pm with Patrick Stewart on WDYTYA? and CBB nibbling away at the audience a bit, although C4 won't be vexed by Vexed and ITV1's Britain Then and Now won't be of historic importance. The ceremony is scheduled to go on until 23:30 although we know how these things can overrun; I can see a peak of 12m just before 9pm.


I presume shooting it in Scotland counts towards the BBC's production quota for the nations. That will count in its favour, even if ratings do dip for this series.

Hmmmm......I think you summed it up perfectly. Shocking all round. The biggest shock is how close the 1st Emmerdale is to Corrie. Not sure its ever been that close on the same night before.


Singles have been out of date and unpopular for a very long time? Shows what you know. That's the most in accurate thing I've read on here in a long time. Singles sales did slump in the early noughties - but now are back up massively thanks to legal downloads. Each year they are on the rise and always up week-on-week overall atm. By this, I mean total sales for every single sold in a particular week. Its albums that are a total mess at the moment. As for no competition. That's not true either. In the last month or so its been pretty quiet but there's been some incredibly close chart battles over recent times. I suggest you read the Music Week article every week to keep up to date with this if you're going to make comments that are hugely inaccurate.


I never said it did. I was just surprised that most people on here hadn't heard of her though. I don't think it'll translate into ratings at all. All I said was, she's probably one of the biggest new acts of 2012 so far...which she is without a doubt.

I think the stick 12 celebrities in a location type of show seems passe now, with only CBB and IAC being notable survivors now, and the whole desert island type thing seems finished now as well as Shipwrecked was brought back and cancelled due to lack of interest. However, as you say, scripted shows seem to be the way forward and I do agree with you that talent contests are not reality shows in the same way New Faces never was.

Excellent rating for Parade's End on BBC Two. I had a suspicion this might struggle - lost in a bot of an odd Friday slot, and being - by all accounts - a real challenge to follow and understand. So I'm very impressed by that rating. Hopefully if it holds on to a good portion of that, we're looking at another drama success for the channel. There is a burgeoning reputation for drama on Two that is bringing people in to taste everything new - it's the complete opposite situation to C4, where good dramas get lost in the ratings because no-one expects to see them on the channel anymore.

Another disastrous 9pm rating for ITV1 - sub-2m is the new sub-3m! Mind you, the programme looks like the height of summer laziness, just hoping that the Corrie name would draw a crowd. Very poor for In With The Flynns - I noticed Danny Cohen used that show to defend BBC One against accusations that they pulled comedies that didn't work straight away, but in this case I feel sure they should have done! On the other hand, Mrs Brown is incredibly consistent nowadays. All the repeats over the year seem to have had a cumulative effect, and I think by the time the Christmas episodes roll around, we'll be seeing this breakout into really big numbers. Amazing for a show that started by being lambasted while airing in a lost Monday 10.35 slot.

Any track can get a number one single in a quiet week though. Im not disputing that Rita Ora has had a very impressive year but a few number ones doesn't make an artist a huge success or mean they have a big profile. The biggest acts in the world and ones with the biggest profile are the ones who sells millions of albums and cant sell out world wide tours. Ora won't boost the show a jot, nor would most music acts.

Dire for Corrie Goes To Kenya; ITV1 did better against the Olympics. Celebrity Big Brother took a hit despite it being an eviction show and one with a slightly surprising result. Parade's End performed excellently put people obviously preferred to go out rather than staying In With The Flynns. Mrs Brown's Boys recorded a very good figure.

Parade's End did well last night but I'm still bemused by its Friday night slot. Obviously the BBC wanted to avoid a Sunday clash with Downton Abbey but surely another weekday 9pm slot would have been better? Unless it's to avoid clashes with BBC One's new drama series launching this week (e.g. New Tricks and Good Cop).

As for Waterloo Road, I'm guessing that the BBC will be hoping for an easier time once Coronation Street moves to Wednesday... though it will still have to contend with Emmerdale and The Corrie Years. That isn't its only problem: it may be early days but the move to Scotland, I reckon, will be the nail in the coffin for the show. It stretches the series' credibility to breaking point - I've never heard of any school moving such a distance! And all for the sake of the BBC having to show that there is no regional bias... same with the ridiculous and pointless move of Breakfast to Salford. Bonkers.

I don't think scripted is the way forward rather than unscripted, just that coming up with the next Lewis is probably easier than coming up with the next X Factor or Big Brother.

Broadcasters need both scripted and unscripted. Drama, particularly on ITV, isn't enaging the younger audience to the same extent as reality or entertainment series. And that's where the money is so they need reality formats to deliver that audience to advertisers. Plus, you're never going to have gritty drama or documentaries at 8pm on a Saturday night.

Well drama might cost more than reality, but in the longer term generates more money in repeats, DVD sales and exports, something which reality generally doesn't. However, a cheap reality hit is good for short term profits and I can see the attraction to commercial broadcasters.
Actually with regard to gritty drama at 8 on a Saturday, cast your mind back to 1979 when the BBC ran the excellent war series Secret Army, which pulled in 16 million viewers. However, I could never see ITV doing this as the audience tend to want what TV Cream calls big boll!"£s f!"$ off entertainment, a legacy from the LWT era.