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Old 21-08-2012, 22:13
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Funny fortnight would be better if its was a whole month
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Old 21-08-2012, 22:14
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Pretty extraordinary story in tomorrow's Telegraph that BT are in talks with ITV that could see ITV show some of BT's Premier League matches next season, in addition to producing all of BT's coverage.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...gue-games.html

ITV have denied talking with BT.
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Old 21-08-2012, 22:34
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18:30 The Big Bang Theory: 767k [inc. +1]
19:00 Hollyoaks: 559k; +1: 142k
21:00 Revenge: 519k; +1: 174k
22:00 Beaver Falls: 271k; +1: 112k
So Beaver Falls up 100k or so on it's premiere a fortnight ago but at around the 400k mark although that was enough to get it a second series I'm not sure it's enough to get it a third.

Ouch for Toast of London, the Channel 4 funny fortnight is a real mixed bag especially the pilots for new comedies.
The trouble with Channel 4's Funny Fortnight is that they pack so much into it, it's difficult for them to promote all their offerings. There's a comedy pilot from the writers of Outnumbered tomorrow night at 10.35, Just Around The Corner. I've just about remembered to set my Sky Plus for it. It remains to be seen whether I remember to watch it.
C4 would have been so much better actually investing in a number of new series to air on Friday nights year round rather than packing it all in a fortnight. Comedy Lab/Showcase just doesn't seem to be generating any series anymore - and that's what they desperately need - series, not pilots. Sadly I suspect the excellent Friday Night Dinner will end up paired with Million Pound Drop in the autumn rather than being used in partnership with a new comedy series.


Pretty extraordinary story in tomorrow's Telegraph that BT are in talks with ITV that could see ITV show some of BT's Premier League matches next season, in addition to producing all of BT's coverage.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...gue-games.html

ITV have denied talking with BT.
Daily Star school of journalism - a whole article completely denied in the final sentence. There is no way BT would give up even a single match, but every chance ITV Sport might produce them and perhaps a deal be struck which gives them greater use of footage in news bulletins and their Champions League/FA Cup coverage than they have with Sky/ESPN - but nothing that would amount to anything significant.
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Old 21-08-2012, 22:37
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Pretty extraordinary story in tomorrow's Telegraph that BT are in talks with ITV that could see ITV show some of BT's Premier League matches next season, in addition to producing all of BT's coverage.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...gue-games.html

ITV have denied talking with BT.
Might enable the BBC to secure a partial refund of several million pounds from the Premier League if ITV secure some live Premier League coverage on terrestrial.

I would hope BBC lawyers are scrutinising the contracts and firing off a letter or two to the Premier League...
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Old 21-08-2012, 22:58
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So Beaver Falls up 100k or so on it's premiere a fortnight ago but at around the 400k mark although that was enough to get it a second series I'm not sure it's enough to get it a third
383k + a bit more from VM catch up, 4od (Where every episode has been in 'most popular') and repeats, may be enough to get a third season, assuming it doesn't tail off now. But it all depends how much it costs to produce (probably not cheap given half the cast are British, and half are Canadian, and it's filmed in South Africa) and whether they make a lot from DVD sales or not.
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Old 21-08-2012, 23:35
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Am pretty sure Premier League agreements would include agreements from BT on how it would be shown.

This wouldn't be done after their signed. We'd already know if ITV were getting some rights with agreement on how their shown (advertising BT or something).

Mind you - that might not stop some sort of simulcast.
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Old 22-08-2012, 00:28
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Am pretty sure Premier League agreements would include agreements from BT on how it would be shown.

This wouldn't be done after their signed. We'd already know if ITV were getting some rights with agreement on how their shown (advertising BT or something).

Mind you - that might not stop some sort of simulcast.
Might explain what GeorgeS has been up to lately. Perhaps he's absented himself because he can't contain his excitement over snatching some live Premier league action and he knows he wouldn't be able to keep mum.

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Old 22-08-2012, 00:36
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Tue TV: Seven #1 27.4% XFactorAU 1.52m7News 1.37m TT 1.18m W&L 1.16m/1.06m 9News 1.13m ACA 1.08m BB 1.01m H&A 1m Anger 693k Survive 506k
- X Factor once again dominates with 1.52m. That is a really good retention from their premiere last night. Winners and Losers also fared decently afterwards and was it a double episode last night?

- TEN managed to secure another flop, this time with I Will Survive. While I am not surprised about the failures of Don't Tel l The Bride and Everybody Dance Now, I am disappointed about this one not doing well.

- Big Brother declines down to 1.01m. Should this be a worrying time for Nine? It is now reaching to the numbers that led to their first cancellation, which was their eighth season a few years ago.

- Everybody Dance Now has officially been cancelled by Ten (http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/08/...dance-now.html). Their Super Sunday lineup now consists of repeats of The Simpsons, Modern Family, Graham Norton and NCIS. With the US shows making a return in a month time, should Ten fast-track until November to save them from what is already their disaster year?

- Also, this is really embarrassing for both EDN and Ten. EDN has been axed immediately, with no one being declared as winner(s). Although there has been cases where a reality series has been cancelled in a sudden, not making it until the show's contractual end. In Spain, their most recent season of Operacion Triunfo (Star Academy) has ended prematurely (leading to the show's eventual cancellation) only after a month on air, due to very underperforming ratings. They had an abrupt finale, where there was an elimination and a winner was decided from the 12 remaining students, the same night. France had it worse last year with Carre Viiip. It is pretty much like Big Brother "fans vs faves" and they were cancelled only after two weeks, due to very low numbers. The remaining housemates were all ejected out of the house after the news broke out. Only one actual eviction show happened.

Doubtful that will happen to Nine, even if BB declines further.
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Old 22-08-2012, 00:44
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What is the highest percentage share of any broadcast in the UK? I recall a World Cup match got around a 90% share at its peak.
England v Brazil peaked with a 92% combined share (BBC1/ITV) for a World Cup game in 2002. (Kick-off was 7:30am BST).
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Old 22-08-2012, 01:17
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Might explain what GeorgeS has been up to lately. Perhaps he's absented himself because he can't contain his excitement over snatching some live Premier league action and he knows he wouldn't be able to keep mum.

I think we need to lie about the ratings this Saturday, just to make sure hes alright
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Old 22-08-2012, 02:26
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Isnt "I Will Survive" a Andrew Lloyd Webber type show, to find a Drag Queen, to be in Priscilla Queen of the Desert? Coming soon to ITV 1? Priscilla Queen of the Lake District?
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Old 22-08-2012, 08:30
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- X Factor once again dominates with 1.52m. That is a really good retention from their premiere last night. Winners and Losers also fared decently afterwards and was it a double episode last night?

- TEN managed to secure another flop, this time with I Will Survive. While I am not surprised about the failures of Don't Tel l The Bride and Everybody Dance Now, I am disappointed about this one not doing well.

- Big Brother declines down to 1.01m. Should this be a worrying time for Nine? It is now reaching to the numbers that led to their first cancellation, which was their eighth season a few years ago.

- Everybody Dance Now has officially been cancelled by Ten (http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/08/...dance-now.html). Their Super Sunday lineup now consists of repeats of The Simpsons, Modern Family, Graham Norton and NCIS. With the US shows making a return in a month time, should Ten fast-track until November to save them from what is already their disaster year?

- Also, this is really embarrassing for both EDN and Ten. EDN has been axed immediately, with no one being declared as winner(s). Although there has been cases where a reality series has been cancelled in a sudden, not making it until the show's contractual end. In Spain, their most recent season of Operacion Triunfo (Star Academy) has ended prematurely (leading to the show's eventual cancellation) only after a month on air, due to very underperforming ratings. They had an abrupt finale, where there was an elimination and a winner was decided from the 12 remaining students, the same night. France had it worse last year with Carre Viiip. It is pretty much like Big Brother "fans vs faves" and they were cancelled only after two weeks, due to very low numbers. The remaining housemates were all ejected out of the house after the news broke out. Only one actual eviction show happened.

Doubtful that will happen to Nine, even if BB declines further.
Ten are just woeful at the moment, only Puberty Blues is delivering any respectability for them ratings wise.

I think if Big Brother remains above 900,000 on Tuesdays-Thursdays and can reach upwards of 1.1m on Sundays and Mondays then it will have done respectable, but the fact its numbers keep declining from the previous week is not positive for them

I expected X Factor to do well, but never this well, after the success of the Voice and the decline of AGT and DWTS I thought it would struggle this year. However rather than focus on the rubbish acts they've concentrated solely on the good ones, maybe 5mins on Monday and Tuesday devoted to not so good acts. Will be interesting to see what Seven decides next year, with the media here saying Mel B is likely to be going to the UK version next year (don't know how true this is), perhaps AGT maybe cancelled and Dannii slide across to the X Factor. There is no way thatDannii didn't join the UK show because of Simon, otherwise she would have left AGT as well, I think there is more truth in her wanting to stay in Australia.

Yes Winners and Losers does appear to have been a double episode last night, I turned off on what I thought was the last ad break of Part 1 because I couldn't be bothered watching 5 minutes of adverts for a 2 minute section of drama, but clearly I was wrong to do that. Would of been nice for Seven to have promoted the fact it was a double epsiode.

Also talking of fast tracking American shows Sevn are airing GCB twice weekly as of next week, considering it only has 10 episodes it will only be on air for another 5 weeks... is it possible Seven are going to fast track Revenge and want mondays clear? They did have Revenge in their Spring promos but that doesn't always mean anything with Seven or Nine.

Isnt "I Will Survive" a Andrew Lloyd Webber type show, to find a Drag Queen, to be in Priscilla Queen of the Desert? Coming soon to ITV 1? Priscilla Queen of the Lake District?
Yes it is the same premise as the ALW shows and even Jason Donovan is poppoing up as judge. The concept is even more niche than Jesus Christ however and airing it up against the X Factor was suicidal, should have stuck to the inital Wednesday/Thursday plan
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Old 22-08-2012, 08:56
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/sigh I didn't even know they were piloting new comedies. No wonder some shows are getting drowned out.

Having Ian Brady as a lead in during 'Funny Fortnight' can't have helped either.
Yeah, I suppose it's one way of testing out a load of pilots but because they're coming so thick and fast it's not really of much use. And it doesn't help that the whole fortnight seems to be taking a midweek break with just one programme last night and tonight, then a whole night on Thursday, then virtually nothing on Friday.

The new one off drama on BBC 2 Sunday at 9 pm directed by Birger Larsen of Forbrydelsen (The Killing - original Danish edition) gets a rave review and looks very interesting. First UK production with fascinating new twist to presentation style. But against an ITV drama and a new George Gently on BBC 1and the also intriguing new Sky 1 series starring John Hannah and Suranne Jones (A Touch of Cloth - an Airplane/Naked Gun style take on UK cop dramas) the 9 pm slot is insanely overstocked this Sunday. Something is going to get criminally undeserved ratings it would seem. Maybe more than one something.
'salright, Murder is being shown at ten o'clock - presumably for entirely that reason. Reminds me of when BBC2 showed Shooting The Past, the acclaimed Stephen Poliakoff drama, on Sundays at 10.10pm in 1999 so it was away from the drama opposition on BBC1 and ITV.

Doctor Who's final numbers have remained impressive and its total reach figures even more so but its overnights haven't exactly been setting the world alight lately. If anything if its going against the complete dud that is Red or Black the pressure is going to be on Doctor Who to hit it out of the park.

Hopefully a consistent 7PM start time will help achieve that.

This could be something of a blessing in disguise for ITV though. Another series of 'Doctor Who ratings crisis' stories like those we saw last year will only distract from Red or Black.
I don't know how going against one of the most popular shows on British TV is good news for ITV. Who isn't in a ratings crisis and if The X Factor can survive despite all the tabloids screaming about the decline, so can Who. The only people who get obsessed with Who ratings are Whovians who are terrified it's going to be axed. If Red or Black can be beaten by Indiana Jones, it can be beaten by Doctor Who, and it doesn't matter what the specific ratings are, all the papers will be bothered about is that it's beating Red or Black - which it will, because Red or Black is a terminally flawed format. You may as well argue ITV is better placed on Tuesdays at 9pm because ITV are getting two million viewers and BBC1 is only getting four million when it should be getting more.

ITV1 winding up their summer with a glut of football (Champions League qualifier, Super Cup) and documentary (Harry's Mountain Heroes, Super Tiny Animals, Britain Then And Now, Britain At Night.
That Champions Leaguie qualifier next week is going to be fun, with no British teams involved and no particularly glamorous foreign teams either.
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Old 22-08-2012, 09:08
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Wednesday is a good day for it, however:



Mrs Biggs isn't going to be a huge rating but Ch5 might be surprised at a drama in there.
All Star Mr & Mrs is odd, that should be on Saturday before X Factor; but then Doctor Who might kill it anyway - best use R/B as a sacrificial lamb to the Daleks and Weeping Angels I suppose. All its good for.
Wednesday evenings is Dallas's old timeslot on BBC1.
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Old 22-08-2012, 09:56
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Also talking of fast tracking American shows Sevn are airing GCB twice weekly as of next week, considering it only has 10 episodes it will only be on air for another 5 weeks... is it possible Seven are going to fast track Revenge and want mondays clear? They did have Revenge in their Spring promos but that doesn't always mean anything with Seven or Nine.
I doubt Seven will fast-track Revenge. If anything, they are going start season two next February. Mind you, Revenge was featured in Seven's mid-season promo initially to promote their first season finale (just like Nine did with The Voice and Ten with Masterchef). They only altered to "season 2", since Seven seemingly had no more big shows to highlight until the end of ratings season. They had to filler in something . Also, like you said, Seven didn't expect TXF to perform this huge. My prediction is that Seven will bump Up All Night as TXF lead-out show after GCB completes their double episodes run. Since Up All Night got renewed in the US, Seven would want to give the sitcom some limelight, at least.
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:02
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The Queen's Mother in Law: 3.96m

Big rating there for Channel 4!

- Pointless: 2.25m
- The One Show: 4.35m
- EastEnders: 7.52m
- Holby City: 5.00m
- Accused: 4.5m

The Great British Bake Off: 4.2m
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:04
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Wednesday evenings is Dallas's old timeslot on BBC1.
Yes but the BBC would have never surrounded it with Tripe like Big Brother, and there I was thinking that Channel 5 wanted big ratings for Dallas, such a pity.
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:06
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Wednesday evenings is Dallas's old timeslot on BBC1.
And, of course, C5 put Neighbours into the same slots it had on BBC1 when they took it over, so they have form for that type of scheduling.

The Queen's Mother in Law: 4.0m

Big rating there for Channel 4!


Was it presented by Peter Kay?
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:07
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Yes but the BBC would have never surrounded it with Tripe like Big Brother, and there I was thinking that Channel 5 wanted big ratings for Dallas, such a pity.
Lights blue touch paper then retires....
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:12
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Lights blue touch paper then retires....
Yes well before anyone claims I hate Channel 5 or something, I don't I watch loads of things on Channel 5 and will watch Dallas, but surely they want more than 2m + -, whatever it surrounding with CBB will do it no favours whatsover and will pollute the Dallas brand with BB's stink.
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:28
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Schedule update.........

Saturday 1st September
BBC1
17:50 - A Question Of Sport
18:20 - Total Wipeout
19:20 - Doctor Who
20:10 - Secret Fortune
21:00 - Casualty
21:50 - BBC News & Weather
22:10 - Match Of The Day

ITV1
18:15 - You've Been Framed!
18:45 - Fool Britannia
19:15 - Red Or Black?
20:00 - The X Factor
21:00 - Red Or Black?
21:45 - The Jonathan Ross Show

Sunday 2nd September
BBC1
18:30 - Britain's Hidden Heritage
19:30 - Countryfile
20:30 - Inspector George Gently

ITV1
19:00 - Coronation Street
20:00 - The Cube
21:00 - The Last Weekend

Monday 3rd
- ITV1: For The Love Of Dogs at 20:00, A Mother's Son at 21:00 (concludes Tuesday)

Tuesday 4th
- ITV1: You've Been Framed! at 19:30, The Unforgettable Sweeney at 20:00

Thursday 6th
- BBC2: Wartime Farm at 20:00, Hilary Devey: Women at the Top at 21:00, Mock the Week at 22:00
- ITV1: The Corrie Years at 20:30, The Bletchley Circle at 21:00
- C5: Celebrity Big Brother Final at 21:00

Friday 7th
- BBC2: Diamond League athletics at 19:00
- ITV1: England vs Moldova World Cup at 19:30

Source: DigiGuide/Elgin on GB
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:30
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I rather liked Toast, but had a nagging feeling I'd be the only one. That really is a terrible rating. I don't think I've seen a rating of just 300k before at 10pm on C4, not for something seemingly so mainstream.
MPD got 272k on a Friday night between 9 and 10:35, but that was because it was up against the Opening ceremony of the Olympics.
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:31
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Schedule update.........

Saturday 1st September
BBC1
17:50 - A Question Of Sport
18:20 - Total Wipeout
19:20 - Doctor Who
20:10 - Secret Fortune
21:00 - Casualty
21:50 - BBC News & Weather
22:10 - Match Of The Day

ITV1
18:15 - You've Been Framed!
18:45 - Fool Britannia
19:15 - Red Or Black?
20:00 - The X Factor
21:00 - Red Or Black?
21:45 - The Jonathan Ross Show

Sunday 2nd September
BBC1
18:30 - Britain's Hidden Heritage
19:30 - Countryfile
20:30 - Inspector George Gently

ITV1
19:00 - Coronation Street
20:00 - The Cube
21:00 - The Last Weekend

Monday 3rd
- ITV1: For The Love Of Dogs at 20:00, A Mother's Son at 21:00 (concludes Tuesday)

Tuesday 4th
- ITV1: You've Been Framed! at 19:30, The Unforgettable Sweeney at 20:00

Thursday 6th
- BBC2: Wartime Farm at 20:00, Hilary Devey: Women at the Top at 21:00, Mock the Week at 22:00
- ITV1: The Corrie Years at 20:30, The Bletchley Circle at 21:00
- C5: Celebrity Big Brother Final at 21:00

Friday 7th
- BBC2: Diamond League athletics at 19:00
- ITV1: England vs Moldova World Cup at 19:30

Source: DigiGuide/Elgin on GB
Is that a new series of The Cube?
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:35
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On Twitter people are saying the Dallas press launch was great apart from Richard Desmond who was hijacking the event.

But to be fair to Desmond, he is making sure theres going to be lots of cross promotion in the Daily Star and Express. So this is going to be big for Channel5.
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Old 22-08-2012, 10:40
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Is that a new series of The Cube?
I'm willing to bet it'll be a repeat of the Mo Farah edition.
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