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Shocking for ITV1's 'Harry's Mountain Heroes'. This time last year BBC1 broadcast 'Harry's Arctic Heroes' (where do ITV get their ideas from by the way?!) and both episodes averaged 4.8m. Given all the media attention on Harry it should of done a lot better.
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The BBC isn't a commercial organisation though and therefore shouldn't be in a position where they're running shows and formats into the ground in the name of ratings. They have the freedom to be able to add more depth and variety to their scheduling without having to worry about how they'll sell the changes to advertisers. The commercial channels don't. And frankly I think BBC1 has been much worse than ITV1 as of late when it comes to overexposing shows. With the exception of at least one too many episodes a week for Coronation Street and Emmerdale ITV have actually been surprisingly restrained in recent times. Not so the BBC who have too many episodes of The One Show (including spin-offs and clip shows), Casualty, Holby City, Waterloo Road, Countryfile, Antiques Roadshow and God knows what else. And just how many repeats of Miranda have there been on prime time BBC1? It may not have actually been a lot but its starting to feel like it.
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Unless of course the high peak represents viewers turning on not liking what they see and then switching back off again. And certainly the recurring theme of X Factor viewers this year seems to be that they aren't enjoying the audition shows.
It's unusual to have a high peak but an average similar to the previous week. Could a higher peak mean a higher timeshift for next week?Quote:
No it hasn't. Don't be ridiculous.
Do you expect the audience to be more interested in the live shows then?
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Unless of course the high peak represents viewers turning on not liking what they see and then switching back off again. And certainly the recurring theme of X Factor viewers this year seems to be that they aren't enjoying the audition shows.
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22:20 - Citizen Khan: 3.41m (20.9%)
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22:00 - The Boyle Variety Performance: 898k (5.5%), +1: 135k (1.5%)
Another poor performance from another Frankie Boyle show on Channel 4. How many chances is he going to get? Quote:
20:30 - Only Connect: 905k (3.8%)
Very good. Hopefully the BBC resist the urge to move it away from BBC4. Quote:
21:00 - A Touch of Cloth: 384k (1.6%)
Disappointed to see this drop so much. It was already low for the first half. Shame. I enjoyed it though.
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BBC Four 20:30 - Only Connect: 905k (3.8%) ... Super for Only Connect on BBC4. K |
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TXF has lost a certain percentage of the audience it had....like I said it has a reputation for stellar ratings...still popular but not mass appeal...
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On those BARB figures, that X Factor rating is a worry when its also backed by similarly low overnights for episode 2. It really needs a boost with Who over the next 5 weeks.
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We'll be seeing a lot more repeats on the BBC due to budget cuts. Get use to it people!
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Do you expect the audience to be more interested in the live shows then?
Not the point I was making. A show that is pulling overnights of more than 8 million and final numbers of around 10 million (plus x amount from ITV Player) clearly has not lost its mass appeal. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Yes the show has dropped year-on-year but that drop does not equate to a loss of mass appeal. And I might remember some of these statements for Sunday morning when Doctor Who overnights at around 7 million and then a week later when it finishes with a final of around 9 million (and x amount of iPlayer views) and everyone is falling over themselves to say what a huge hit it is and that it still has mass appeal. |
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What could XF do to bring in the higher ratings that we've seen in the previous years? There's news that Simon Cowell is going to make an appearance sometime this series, and something about an Olympic week...
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Although given that about 50% of Doctor Who's audience tend not to watch it live I'm really not sure what kind of boost people are expecting the show to give The X Factor. I understand the theory that another big show on Saturday night draws eyes to Saturday night television in general and that Who provides a lead-in of sorts for The X Factor. But Doctor Who's live audience just doesn't seem big enough to do that. The audience has to watch Doctor Who live to then flick the channel over to ITV and watch The X Factor.
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I don't object to repeats I just wish there was a greater variety of them (in terms of the shows they repeat). I really don't understand why we need another run of Miranda repeats for example. Is there really nothing else the BBC can put in that slot? Nothing at all? And surely by repeating the show this often they just condition the audience to think that any showing is a repeat? There is a massive variety of content across the BBC they could do with cycling more of that into the repeat rotation.
I don't mind too many repeats either but this new patter of repeating a show endlessly seems the norm now. Not sure I like it but we're probably going to see more of it.Quote:
Not the point I was making. True. But I was asking a general question. Do you think the show will rate higher when we reach the live stages? Most times the live stage gets a boost.
A show that is pulling overnights of more than 8 million and final numbers of around 10 million (plus x amount from ITV Player) clearly has not lost its mass appeal. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Yes the show has dropped year-on-year but that drop does not equate to a loss of mass appeal. And I might remember some of these statements for Sunday morning when Doctor Who overnights at around 7 million and then a week later when it finishes with a final of around 9 million (and x amount of iPlayer views) and everyone is falling over themselves to say what a huge hit it is and that it still has mass appeal. |
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Not sure of this has been mentioned already but the Radio Times seem to think The X Factor will air a double bill on Saturday September 8th and Sunday September 9th - they have the Sunday show down for an 8pm start.
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Doctor Who also seems to have an audience that tunes in for it and doesn't always watch shows around it. I think Strictly gives a better lead-in to The X Factor. Also we shouldn't underestimate The Paralympics. It could dent Doctor Who and The X Factor on Saturday plus the weather looks good over much of the UK.
I don't mind too many repeats either but this new patter of repeating a show endlessly seems the norm now. Not sure I like it but we're probably going to see more of it. True. But I was asking a general question. Do you think the show will rate higher when we reach the live stages? Most times the live stage gets a boost. |
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I don't object to repeats I just wish there was a greater variety of them (in terms of the shows they repeat). I really don't understand why we need another run of Miranda repeats for example. Is there really nothing else the BBC can put in that slot? Nothing at all? And surely by repeating the show this often they just condition the audience to think that any showing is a repeat? There is a massive variety of content across the BBC they could do with cycling more of that into the repeat rotation.
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Not sure of this has been mentioned already but the Radio Times seem to think The X Factor will air a double bill on Saturday September 8th and Sunday September 9th - they have the Sunday show down for an 8pm start.
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Not sure of this has been mentioned already but the Radio Times seem to think The X Factor will air a double bill on Saturday September 8th and Sunday September 9th - they have the Sunday show down for an 8pm start.
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Don't they usually do that for boot camp and judge's houses? Do they start that weekend?
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Although given that about 50% of Doctor Who's audience tend not to watch it live I'm really not sure what kind of boost people are expecting the show to give The X Factor. I understand the theory that another big show on Saturday night draws eyes to Saturday night television in general and that Who provides a lead-in of sorts for The X Factor. But Doctor Who's live audience just doesn't seem big enough to do that. The audience has to watch Doctor Who live to then flick the channel over to ITV and watch The X Factor.
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That is an awesome Only Connect - its fan base is quite incredible.
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Does anyone know the ratings for The One Show last Friday (24 Aug)
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Not sure of this has been mentioned already but the Radio Times seem to think The X Factor will air a double bill on Saturday September 8th and Sunday September 9th - they have the Sunday show down for an 8pm start.
Or is that the Sunday "Downton-dale Dynasty Street Abbey" launches, either needing its Sunday-enhanced TXF crutch or itself acting as the crutch for the flagging TXF? |
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Shocking for ITV1's 'Harry's Mountain Heroes'. This time last year BBC1 broadcast 'Harry's Arctic Heroes' (where do ITV get their ideas from by the way?!) and both episodes averaged 4.8m. Given all the media attention on Harry it should of done a lot better.
Disappointing indeed, but perhaps the media attention he has been getting had a negative effect on viewers - esp. male audience target who maybe aren't interested in his antics? |
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Panic measure? It's tanking on Saturdays, so lets have an emergency transfusion of viewers by putting one show out on a higher viewing Sunday?
Or is that the Sunday "Downton-dale Dynasty Street Abbey" launches, either needing its Sunday-enhanced TXF crutch or acting as the crutch for the flagging TXF? Agree - they need to stay off the "double header" weekend shows at the moment - the problem with the show is the content - putting on an extra show is like putting a sticking plaster on an open wound.
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The BBC isn't a commercial organisation though and therefore shouldn't be in a position where they're running shows and formats into the ground in the name of ratings. They have the freedom to be able to add more depth and variety to their scheduling without having to worry about how they'll sell the changes to advertisers. The commercial channels don't. And frankly I think BBC1 has been much worse than ITV1 as of late when it comes to overexposing shows..
This isn't some tacky, tawdry, commercialised offering that ITV, Sky or Channel 5 should be doing. It's a news and factual magazine programme about rural affairs and farming FFS! Like the news, Songs of Praise, Panorama, Question Time it runs all (or nearly all) the year, week in week out. Why do you suggest that those with an interest in rural affairs should only have a programme from the BBC for short runs of the year? If Songs of Praise and Panorama got 7m a week, would you bemoan the Beeb cashing in with the same old boring line up? Countryfile is an accidential hit, for sure. But your logic seems to be that because it is popular, the BBC shouldn't air as much of it! Well that would be real public service wouldn't it? What perverse logic! |
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With the nights drawing in now, and the shopping days running out
, I have had my first thoughts about a BBC Xmas Day schedule.How would this go down, and how would ITV fit their 3 big soaps into a line up opposite this?6.00 DW 7.00 EE 7.30 Call The Midwife Christmas Special 8.30 EE 9.00 The Royle Family 10.00 Miranda (NEW SERIES) 10.30 Mrs Brown's Boys (NEW SERIES) 11.00 News 11.10 Michael Macintyre's Christmas Comedy Roadshow Aggressive, huh? I think they should go for it, and storm the schedules with something like this. I imagine ITV would have to respond with EmFm at 6pm and Coro at 7.30, with DA at 8.30-10.30. Or keep DA at 9pm but give it a lead-in of You've Been Framed . They won't put a 30 min CS on at 9pm with DA airing 9.30-11.30 - far too late.
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Panic measure? It's tanking on Saturdays, so lets have an emergency transfusion of viewers by putting one show out on a higher viewing Sunday?
Or is that the Sunday "Downton-dale Dynasty Street Abbey" launches, either needing its Sunday-enhanced TXF crutch or itself acting as the crutch for the flagging TXF? |
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Don't ever forget moving Grange Hill to Liverpool was its downfall.
As for High Road, STV finished it as the average age of the viewers was 70 and the English ITV regions found it unattractive. It ended in England around the same time ITV ended its Aussie shows. I'm sure, Jaycee, you would have loved The Sullivans, Australia's best soap. |
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With the nights drawing in now, and the shopping days running out
, I have had my first thoughts about a BBC Xmas Day schedule.How would this go down, and how would ITV fit their 3 big soaps into a line up opposite this?6.00 DW 7.00 EE 7.30 Call The Midwife Christmas Special 8.30 EE 9.00 The Royle Family 10.00 Miranda (NEW SERIES) 10.30 Mrs Brown's Boys (NEW SERIES) 11.00 News 11.10 Michael Macintyre's Christmas Comedy Roadshow Aggressive, huh? I think they should go for it, and storm the schedules with something like this. I imagine ITV would have to respond with EmFm at 6pm and Coro at 7.30, with DA at 8.30-10.30. Or keep DA at 9pm but give it a lead-in of You've Been Framed . They won't put a 30 min CS on at 9pm with DA airing 9.30-11.30 - far too late. |
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, I have had my first thoughts about a BBC Xmas Day schedule.
into a line up opposite this?