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The Ratings Thread (Part 39)
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AlexiR
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I suppose Jay Hunt and co think C4 is being "edgy", "alternative" and "down wiv da kidz" by throwing Boyle the occasional bone, so I wouldn't bet against further shows cropping up from time to time, and playing out to tiny audiences.”

But its not like Boyle is the only 'edgy' comedian in the entire country. Also when you consider that one of the country's least edgy comedians (Peter Kay) brings them big numbers for shows that are years old you'd think logic would kick in somewhere along the way.

Does anyone know what kind of demos Frankie Boyle's shows bring in? Is the entire audience young? That's just about the only reason I can think of to keep plugging away with someone who audiences repeatedly seem to be rejecting. That and the fact its Channel 4 obviously.
JCR
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Really good start for Citizen Khan, and I have to admit, I really liked it. I suppose Jay Hunt and co think C4 is being "edgy", "alternative" and "down wiv da kidz" by throwing Boyle the occasional bone, so I wouldn't bet against further shows cropping up from time to time, and playing out to tiny audiences.”

I read a piece on chortle.co.uk last week saying that a comics war- like a less violent version of east/west coast rap war- might be good for business- maybe 4 should encourage Boyle to insult Stewart Lee more, in the hope he'll insult Boyle more back and ratings for both will go up.
D.M.N.
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Provisional BBC1 schedule for Saturday 8th September:

17:20 - F1: Italian Grand Prix Qualifying Highlights
18:35 - Total Wipeout
19:35 - Doctor Who
20:20 - Lottery
21:10 - Last Night at the Proms

If ITV want to keep The X Factor away from Doctor Who, then it looks like a 20:20 start for The X Factor...”

This is now confirmed.

ITV's schedule is the same as the previous week, The X Factor starts at 20:10, meaning a 10 minute overlap with Doctor Who.

Meanwhile for Sunday 8th September:

BBC One
19:05 - BBC News & Weather
19:30 - Countryfile
20:30 - Inspector George Gently

ITV1
19:00 - Coronation Street
20:00 - The X Factor
21:00 - The Scapegoat

- Dragons' Den returns to BBC Two at 21:00
- The closing ceremony for the Paralympics is between 19:00 to 23:30

Thanks to Elgin on GB.

That could be a very interesting night ratings wise, depending on how well the Paralympics does ratings wise.

No idea where that hour of Coronation Street comes from. It's on this Sunday at 19:00 due to the Friday football, but that doesn't explain why it is on the following Sunday as well.
cylon6
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I think that's the end of that! They've ironed out some of the problems from the first series, but it is not enough to save the show. I think it was in the planning for around six years, judging by a link rzt found last year, so I'm not sure why it wasn't better from the off.”

What little I saw it seems one character has left or been recast and they got rid of the filmic look to the series. Very surprised this came from Simon Nye. I think it's awful. Might have gotten a million more had it been following Mrs Brown's Boys.
hyperstarsponge
28-08-2012
Paralympics will be the thing that will take some viewers from The X Factor
Pizzatheaction
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“STV OPT OUTs next week might affect the figures:-

MONDAY - 8pm - STV APPEAL replaces Paul O'Grady.

TUESDAY - 8pm - STV APPEAL replaces Unforgettable: The Sweeney.

WEDNESDAY - 8pm - STV APPEAL replaces Mr & Mrs.

FRIDAY - 7.30pm - STV APPEAL replaces Football.”

What are they appealing for? Is it some sort of telethon lite, with lots of Scottish celebs and SNP politicians dropping in?
Andy23
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Friday 24th August 2012 - Full Roundup
BBC One
21:00 - In with the Flynns: 2.71m (12.8%)
21:30 - Mrs Brown's Boys: 4.02m (18.8%)”

That is another reason why ITV doesn't do much comedy, translate that into an ITV rating from a BBC rating and you get not much more than 2m.

Mrs Brown's Boys seems to be soaking up viewers in any slot, having said that it's increasingly lazy that BBC1 seem to schedule it all over the place whenever there is a spare half hour.

Would I lie to You is another one that is over used and seems to be on every week either in peak time or after the news.
Dancc
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“The lead has the charisma of a pea. The characters are thin poorly developed piles of nothing. There's no sense of fun to it because it takes itself far too seriously and certainly more seriously than a show with its premise should. The writing is awful not to mention filled with holes and containing giant gaps in logic. Person of Interest is just a bad drama.”

And that's a perfectly valid opinion from someone who openly admits he doesn't like JJ Abrams' work. Wouldn't it be fair to say you're in the minority though? An 8.3/10 score on IMDB seems pretty decent from over 20,000 votes. If there were more people saying what you were saying, I'd be worried for it. As it is, I'm quite relaxed about its chances and what will be will be.

Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Where did the notion that the US ratings were particularly impressive come from.

Just to put this into context Person of Interest averaged less than cancelled CBS sitcom Rob. If Person of Interest had been a sitcom it would have been cancelled. It also spent too much of its season struggling to beat The Mentalist which airs an hour later in a slot where PUT levels are noticeably lower. The numbers really weren't anything to write home about.”

In the demo, maybe. I wasn't really talking about the demo, though. Total People numbers were strong enough to make it the #1 new show of the season, albeit in a weak season for new drama, and it reached some reasonable highs towards the back end of the season. In the end it finished #13 for the 2011/12 season. The current number one drama in the US, NCIS, finished #26 at the end of its first season. As long as Person of Interest picks up next season which I think it will, it could be around for a long time to come. It could do with recruiting more younger viewers but then you could say the same for a number of shows on CBS.
cylon6
28-08-2012
Downton Abbey is back on Sunday 16th September.
Pizzatheaction
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Monday 27th August 2012 - Full Roundup
All Day Shares
BBC One - 21.1%”

That's a high all day share for a summer Bank Holiday, even allowing for it not being a Bank Holiday in Scotland.
Dancc
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Downton Abbey is back on Sunday 16th September.”

No surprises then, same day as last year. (I remember as it was back on my birthday on the 18th)
grimshaw
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“And that's a perfectly valid opinion from someone who openly admits he doesn't like JJ Abrams' work. Wouldn't it be fair to say you're in the minority though? An 8.3/10 score on IMDB seems pretty decent from over 20,000 votes. If there were more people saying what you were saying, I'd be worried for it. As it is, I'm quite relaxed about its chances and what will be will be.”

The lead actor isn't just a bad actor, he literally does not act and overall the first episode is horribly directed (US drama needs to stop flipping cars, especially when their on a road with no obstacle in sight).

The show is basically people saying exposition between colourful stuff happening on screen. Its utter tripe and pretty much unwatchable am shocked how good it did in the states. This would be like Paradox (similar premise) taking off over here.

In the pilot, an important character is killed off screen, another kidnapped off screen (or something - I generally don't follow plots if its random exposition and logic jumps from A to B and all spoken off a computer screen) and the main character is not just 100% stupid (he gets told she might not be the victim) hes 100% humourless and emotionless.

This show might be watchable if it had the tone of something like Vexed, it doesn't.

And the episode ended with an off screen shoot out. Worse than woeful, it was insulting that someone wanted me to watch it.


I mean a show like Chuck I enjoy, its fun, stupid and silly. Its got a stupid premise but its camp and fun. Person of Interest wanted me to really believe the plot; the lead actor could have at least seemed to find it all bizzare.

IMBD is a bad place to find show scores anyway; Mrs Brown only has a 7.7 for example. People will review these things to extremes if they like them or dislike them.
D.M.N.
28-08-2012
A few more bits, again, thanks to Elgin on GB:

Monday 10th September 2012
- The Olympic parade is between 13:25 and 16:15 on BBC1, with highlights at 20:30
- New drama Leaving starts at 21:00 on ITV1.

Tuesday 11th September 2012
- Trouble On The Estate at 21:00 on BBC1 (presumably a Panorama special).
- The Vikings starts at 21:00 on BBC2.
- World Cup qualifier from 19:30 on ITV1.
- New drama import Lilyhammer starts at 22:00 on BBC4.

Wednesday 12th September 2012
- Watchdog returns at 20:00 on BBC1.

Friday 14th September 2012
- Piers Morgan's Life Stories returns at 21:00 on ITV1.
Pizzatheaction
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“What little I saw it seems one character has left or been recast and they got rid of the filmic look to the series. Very surprised this came from Simon Nye. I think it's awful. Might have gotten a million more had it been following Mrs Brown's Boys.”

They've recast the daughter, and I think they've replaced the brother of Will Mellor's character with a different brother, rather than just recasting the original brother, if that makes any sense?

Nye's writing is better than the original writing team's scripts, but I think Nye would do better creating his own family sitcom from scratch, rather than taking on other people's work and trying to transform it.

And for something about being In With the Flynns, there still seems to be a lot of location stuff.
Dancc
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“A few more bits, again, thanks to Elgin on GB:

Monday 9th September 2012
- The Olympic parade is between 13:25 and 16:15 on BBC1, with highlights at 20:30
- New drama Leaving starts at 21:00 on ITV1.

Tuesday 10th September 2012
- Trouble On The Estate at 21:00 on BBC1 (presumably a Panorama special).
- The Vikings starts at 21:00 on BBC2.
- World Cup qualifier from 19:30 on ITV1.
- New drama import Lilyhammer starts at 22:00 on BBC4.

Wednesday 11th September 2012
- Watchdog returns at 20:00 on BBC1.

Friday 13th September 2012
- Piers Morgan's Life Stories returns at 21:00 on ITV1.”

And from C5:

Movie Premiere: Over Her Dead Body (2008): Sunday 9th September 7.10pm
Cowboy Builders (New Series): Monday 10th September 9pm
Emergency Bikers (New Series): Wednesday 12th September before Dallas
Paddy and Sally's Excellent Gypsy Adventure (New Series): Wednesday 12th September after Dallas
Eddie Stobart's Trucks and Trailers (New Series): Friday 14th September 8pm
Dancc
28-08-2012
Has Channel 4 picked up the second run rights to CBS drama Unforgettable? DigiGuide seems to think so, although you'd hope they'd give it a better timeslot than this. It aired originally here on Sky Living:

Quote:
“DRAMA: Unforgettable
On: Channel 4 (4)
Date: Thursday 13th September 2012 (starting in 16 days)
Time: 23:05 to 00:05 (1 hour long)

Crime drama following a former detective with a flawless memory who can remember every moment from her life... other than the details of her sister's murder.
(2011, 3 Star)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marked By: 'Category: Drama' marker
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=87587

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.”

Most of C4 that week is TBA so little else to report.
Glenn A
28-08-2012
New Tricks might have had the most bizarre episode ever last night, but I'm not complaining at 7.7 million, this is soap territory. CBB seems to be edging up to the 2 million mark as it heads towards its final week, I think this will be where the show ends up for its last few nights.
Also it looks like TXF is starting to come under fire even from loyal supportes like The Sun. Andy Ross savaged it for being boring and stale and it can't be long, if ratings fall again, that they do a BB on it and start encouraging their journalists to attack the show.
dullagj2
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“This is now confirmed.

ITV1
19:00 - Coronation Street
20:00 - The X Factor
21:00 - The Scapegoat

- Dragons' Den returns to BBC Two at 21:00
- The closing ceremony for the Paralympics is between 19:00 to 23:30

Thanks to Elgin on GB.

No idea where that hour of Coronation Street comes from. It's on this Sunday at 19:00 due to the Friday football, but that doesn't explain why it is on the following Sunday as well.”

There's an England WC qualifier on Fri. 7th September.
Hassaan13
28-08-2012
When are the likes of The Million Pound Drop and Russell Howard's Good News returning?
Andy23
28-08-2012
Surely half an hour of Corrie on Sunday with the other half on Thursday (Pushing back the Corrie docs for 2 weeks) would be better than an hour on Sunday starting at the early time of 7pm?

They don't always use these extra Corries to their advantage and seem to want to get rid of them as quick as possible.
Martin Phillp
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Wednesday 12th September 2012
- Watchdog returns at 20:00 on BBC1.”

Moved from Thursday nights, presumably because of Waterloo Road? Should boost what is a flagging night for BBC One.
NeilVW
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Wednesday 12th September 2012
- Watchdog returns at 20:00 on BBC1.”

Originally Posted by Martin Phillp:
“Moved from Thursday nights, presumably because of Waterloo Road? Should boost what is a flagging night for BBC One.”

Also, TOS is extended to an hour on that Wednesday night, and with WDYTYA? at 9, it's a solid-enough line-up.
Pizzatheaction
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by Martin Phillp:
“Moved from Thursday nights, presumably because of Waterloo Road? Should boost what is a flagging night for BBC One.”

I think Watchdog might dip on Wednesday nights.
Hassaan13
28-08-2012
I'm getting the thought that they should go back to airing weekly additions of WWTBAM. Yes, it will never again get 19 million viewers unless they have the Queen on there or something (!).
Dancc
28-08-2012
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Surely half an hour of Corrie on Sunday with the other half on Thursday (Pushing back the Corrie docs for 2 weeks) would be better than an hour on Sunday starting at the early time of 7pm?

They don't always use these extra Corries to their advantage and seem to want to get rid of them as quick as possible.”

That hour of Corrie could come in handy in helping to salvage something from what's likely to be a low to very low rating night for them thereafter. I still don't really understand why The Cube is being repeated in a Sunday 8pm slot in September, a slot which will soon be occupied by their highest rated show.
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