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The Ratings Thread (Part 39)
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Mr Sirs
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“I think Dallas will beat Mrs Bigs with almost 4million viewers for Dallas and 3.5million for Mrs Bigs. I havent heard much of Mrs Bigs but Dallas has been very well trailed by Channel5 and Dancc is right that it's got lots of front cover mentions across many publications. But lets not forget the wildcard which is the Paralympics, if Britain win a lot of golds and theres a big event, this could rate extremely well for Channel4 and maybe even beat Itv1 and Channel5 on the night.”



I share you and Dancc's confidence for Dallas - I too think it will beat Mrs Biggs but it's a 3 horse race for the 9pm event - the Paralympics might just edge them both!
The Full Sparky
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Zai Bennett has wrecked BBC3, His Bad Eduction programme is rubbish and the audience that tune-in to that channel doesn't know any better

By not showing foo fighters live last Sunday, He has proven that all he cares about is ratings instead of quality”

I think pinning a particular programme's success to an individual is silly and overlooks many many different factors, but the decision not to show Foo Fighters probably had more to do with the band than BBC3 - quite often the case with headliners at festivals.
The Full Sparky
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“I think Dallas will beat Mrs Bigs with almost 4million viewers for Dallas and 3.5million for Mrs Bigs. I havent heard much of Mrs Bigs but Dallas has been very well trailed by Channel5 and Dancc is right that it's got lots of front cover mentions across many publications. But lets not forget the wildcard which is the Paralympics, if Britain win a lot of golds and theres a big event, this could rate extremely well for Channel4 and maybe even beat Itv1 and Channel5 on the night.”

You need to have been watching C5 to watch the Dallas trails.... I think everyone is overstating the Dallas audience, It'll be in the 2m's.
Dancc
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“I share you and Dancc's confidence for Dallas - I too think it will beat Mrs Biggs but it's a 3 horse race for the 9pm event - the Paralympics might just edge them both!”

4 horse race really - Who Do You Think You Are? has been the leader of the slot for the past two weeks and as an alternative to the drama shouldn't be hurt too badly.

The only thing we can say with any certainty about the likely order next Wednesday at 9pm is Vexed looks set to be firmly rooted in last place.
ftv
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Yes, 450 to 455.”

Thank you
Mr Sirs
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“4 horse race really - Who Do You Think You Are? has been the leader of the slot for the past two weeks and as an alternative to the drama shouldn't be hurt too badly.

The only thing we can say with any certainty about the likely order next Wednesday at 9pm is Vexed looks set to be firmly rooted in last place.”


Apologies - completely forgot about WDYTYA? - and yes, Vexed looks as if it will be trailing in last (worth a punt to "lay to lose" on Betfair I'd imagine!! ).
Dancc
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by The Full Sparky:
“You need to have been watching C5 to watch the Dallas trails.... I think everyone is overstating the Dallas audience, It'll be in the 2m's.”

C5 may well advertise on other channels nearer to launch, a common practice for them with big programme launches. But I think most people know by now it's coming back anyway. The cast appeared on a number of news/magazine programmes last week, and it's been all over the TV magazines and newspapers.

I'll eat my hat if it doesn't do at least 3 million, but 4m+ is a possibility.
Straker
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“C5 may well advertise on other channels nearer to launch, a common practice for them with big programme launches. But I think most people know by now it's coming back anyway. The cast appeared on a number of news/magazine programmes last week, and it's been all over the TV magazines and newspapers.

I'll eat my hat if it doesn't do at least 3 million, but 4m+ is a possibility.”


It has a cracking review in the new Time Out magazine: “TV with a twinkle in it’s eye”.
Mr Sirs
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“C5 may well advertise on other channels nearer to launch, a common practice for them with big programme launches. But I think most people know by now it's coming back anyway. The cast appeared on a number of news/magazine programmes last week, and it's been all over the TV magazines and newspapers.

I'll eat my hat if it doesn't do at least 3 million, but 4m+ is a possibility.”


Your Viners cutlery is safe in its box - and so is your hat too.
NeilVW
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“my only question is how does the Tuesday flop zone have a slot average of 3.26m?”

Depending on how far they go back, it may include some atypically high audiences on Tuesdays such as BGT week and the England v Ukraine final group game in Euro 2012, which was on a Tuesday.
Jaycee Dove
29-08-2012
Dallas is unlucky to face WDYTYA (popular with older viewers and no obvious repeat) and Mrs Biggs (likely to attract viewers old enough to recall the original crime and also being promoed a lot on ITV). It is also unlucky to have chosen to launch in the week that Doctor Who returns meaning that show and not Dallas takes the covers of Radio Times and TV and Satellite Week.

So I think the ratings may be slightly down on what they could have been (3 million ish).

The repeat on Friday at 8 pm also clashes with soaps like Corrie.

Hope it does better but it is a tough slot.

BTW does anyone know why/how Digiguide has the first showing on Wednesday as a 75 minute slot but the Friday repeat is just an hour? Are they cramming it with ad breakson first airing. If so I will record - as likely will many more if there really are 15 mins extra ads!
Jaycee Dove
29-08-2012
Once Upon a Time has been a great show - refreshingly different from the usual genre shows on TV but an easy and entertaining watch. Bigger channels must be kicking themselves over this and it is a shame that so few people bother with Five and will have missed a series that would have a surprisingly wide appeal in the right place. I have mentioned it to several people that I know would have loved it but it has passed them by entirely as they never watch Five and it has not had the buzz here it would have got on a more high profile channel.

Not sure what Five can do about this but a repeat before series 2 in January (?) should be judiciously targetted. Hopefully they will treat it better than Four do with a programme like The Good (what week is it next on at 2 am) Wife.

Two of the best US imports in the past decade and you almost need to be a TV expert to know where and when they are on or that they even exist.
Straker
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Not sure what Five can do about this but a repeat before series 2 in January (?) should be judiciously targetted. Hopefully they will treat it better than Four do with a programme like The Good (what week is it next on at 2 am) Wife.”

C4 are re-showing S2 as a filler in the wee small hours. You might have a point if they were re-showing S3 (already aired on More4) in that slot but I don’t see why that time is inappropriate for a season already more than 2 years old. Would make sense for them to repeat S3 in advance of S4 which would better be stripped daily in the afternoon as a lead-in to the new season.
derek500
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Straker:
“C4 are re-showing S2 as a filler in the wee small hours. You might have a point if they were re-showing S3 (already aired on More4) in that slot but I don’t see why that time is inappropriate for a season already more than 2 years old.”

Bugger missed it!! Waited more than two years to get an HD showing and I didn't notice it was being shown.
i4u
29-08-2012
Angela Jain (ITV2) scraps 'The Exclusives'....

Quote:
“She said: “It was compared with The Apprentice and, quite rightly, it was said it wasn’t as good as The Apprentice.

“I didn’t commission it thinking it was going to be a flop — but it was a disappointment.””

Bit of an understatement!

And of Mark Wright's flop...

Quote:
“She said: “We didn’t get the format right at the beginning.

“The first couple of episodes, I didn’t know what I was watching.”

Angela, Somehow I think the viewers who saw it and Andre's latest airing could have told you instantly what you were watching.
i4u
29-08-2012
During ad breaks..the ratings of a programme tend to dip and rise again after the break.

Is there a sudden blip on other channeor or ls the increase to small to measure?
AlexiR
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Two of the best US imports in the past decade and you almost need to be a TV expert to know where and when they are on or that they even exist.”

This statement makes me sad.

The past decade has included shows like Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy, The Wire, Friday Night Lights, Deadwood, Veronica Mars, Firefly, Dexter, The Shield, Arrested Development, 30 Rock, Modern Family and The Office. Plus shows like The Sopranos and The West Wing the second halves of which come from the past decade. Once Upon A Time really isn't up there as one of the best imports of the last decade. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that its even one of the best import from the past 12 months.

That's not to say its a terrible show though (although I'm not a fan).
Dancc
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“BTW does anyone know why/how Digiguide has the first showing on Wednesday as a 75 minute slot but the Friday repeat is just an hour? Are they cramming it with ad breakson first airing. If so I will record - as likely will many more if there really are 15 mins extra ads!”

It's an extended opener so 4 internal breaks. On the Friday the slot length is likely reduced due to a change in the way their ad breaks are structured that evening. Normally they minimise commercials in the 7pm hour because it's a nothing slot for them and use up those minutes somewhere else, however when the cricket is on (as it is on Friday) they run full length commercial breaks during the 7pm hour and have fewer ads elsewhere, normally during the 6pm hour but in this case it'll likely be the 8pm hour.
Last Request
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Best get my CV polished up then, just in case...”

Come on Robbie everyone knows you already work for the BBC.

Or should I say you already work for them, but you want a more challenging role in the company.
The Full Sparky
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Dallas is unlucky to face WDYTYA (popular with older viewers and no obvious repeat) and Mrs Biggs (likely to attract viewers old enough to recall the original crime and also being promoed a lot on ITV).”

Precisely, the competition is too high to expect some of the ratings being quoted here. And, as far as I'm aware C5 don't seem to have made schedule changes to avoid these clashes (as they did when the first episode of Big Brother was up against the premiere of Twilight on C4) so perhaps even they aren't expecting earth shattering ratings.
D.M.N.
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by i4u:
“During ad breaks..the ratings of a programme tend to dip and rise again after the break.

Is there a sudden blip on other channeor or ls the increase to small to measure?”

Too small seeing as people channel hop during the breaks. Maybe very small, say 0.1m, but nothing to make a big difference.
Dancc
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Too small seeing as people channel hop during the breaks. Maybe very small, say 0.1m, but nothing to make a big difference.”

Surely a lot of the time it's as simple as people leaving the room? The channel isn't necessarily being changed.
Hassaan13
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“One question:

The BGT semi final on 29 May 2009 which averaged 13.14m (overnights) and a 57.3% share, it peaked at 15 million, what was the peak share?

Also, what were the one-minute peaks for the finals of X Factor 2010 and 2011 (when the winner was announced), if there isn't then the five minute peaks would do.”

Anyone have the ratings, as I can't seem to find them anywhere else.
Hassaan13
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by i4u:
“Angela Jain (ITV2) scraps 'The Exclusives'....



Bit of an understatement!

And of Mark Wright's flop...



Angela, Somehow I think the viewers who saw it and Andre's latest airing could have told you instantly what you were watching.”

The Exclusives was a right flop. It only got 55,000 on one occasion, even with adverts between the BGT final (as I recall). If they were going to commission a series to do with finding the new best journalist, they should have done it in the style of 'Show Me the Funny' on ITV last year, that was at least capable of pulling in decent ratings.
Dancc
29-08-2012
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“The Exclusives was a right flop. It only got 55,000 on one occasion, even with adverts between the BGT final (as I recall). If they were going to commission a series to do with finding the new best journalist, they should have done it in the style of 'Show Me the Funny' on ITV last year, that was at least capable of pulling in decent ratings.”

Show Me the Funny was a flop for ITV1. Might have done alright on ITV2.

What's happened to series two, by the way?
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