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Provisional scheduling news, thanks to Elgin on GB:
Saturday 15th September 2012 - BBC One has Strictly Come Dancing at 18:30, Doctor Who from 19:35 to 20:20 - ITV1 has The X Factor at 20:00 - Thus meaning a 20 minute overlap between The X Factor and Doctor Who Sunday 16th September 2012 - ITV1 has Downton Abbey from 21:00 to 22:30
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I'm very intrigued to know, and I think a lot of others will be aswell, what's the highest audience/peak for a non-Euro/World Cup match in the UK ever?
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My concern with the 'gritty Bafta' drama is that increasingly it feels as if they're commissioned purely for critical plaudits and awards recognition rather than entertainment purposes or audience demand. The latest run of Accused for example feels like it exists purely to be a worthy drama on BBC1 rather than any real demands from audiences to see more. And its all well and good to have some shows like that it feels like there have been more than a couple of them on BBC1 already this year.
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WTF? Of course there is demand for it. Talk about jumping the shark.
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That the BBC isn't a commercial broadcaster doesn't mean that they are given license to simply ignore what the viewer actually wants particularly not on what is supposed to be their mainstream channel. I would also point out that in the post you quoted I said that it was all well and good to have shows like that and suggested that it was the increasing volume of them that was problematic and not their existence in general. Although actually I would point out that approaching the commissioning of any show (regardless of its genre or content) from the perspective of 'critics will love this' or 'this will win awards' is fatally flawed and more and more that seems to be the approach with these 'gritty' dramas.
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Channel 5 Programme Information w/c 15th September Quote:
Making Faces (New Series: 1/4) Source: C5 Press.Channel 5 presents a brand new programme which looks at the work of the Maxillofacial Prosthetic Department at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham. We follow the work of the team there as they help patients who require a facial prosthetic due to illness, accident or birth defect. The opening episode follows the story of Anna, who had her nose removed due to a cancerous tumour and is now having a prosthetic nose fitted. We also meet Frank, who is a young burns victim receiving treatment by the hospital team to reduce the scarring after his accident. Being Liverpool (New Series: 1/6) A must-see series for football fans begins this week on Channel 5. ‘Being Liverpool’ is a fly-on-the-wall documentary revealing what goes on behind the scenes of the Premier League club and the dedication, hard work and sacrifices it takes to never walk alone. Granted unique and unprecedented access to the club, the players and the management team, the series is an intriguing insight into new manager Brendan Rodgers’ regime as he tries to bring a new brand of attractive, attacking football to Anfield. Heroes of the Skies (New Series: 1/6) Commencing this week on Channel 5, the stories of the most heroic airborne combat missions in history are told in this ground-breaking, new dramatised documentary series, which uses real vintage aircrafts to re-create daring mid-air combat sequences. This week’s episode focuses on the most famous fighter pilot of World War II, Sir Douglas Bader. Featuring Spitfires, Lancaster bombers and Phantom fighters, aerial stunt teams and state-of-the-art camera technology, this ambitious series brings to life the exploits of the world's greatest heroes of the skies. Wills and Kate: Baby Fever ‘Wills and Kate: Baby Fever’ takes a look at the intense global interest in the greatest unborn celebrity of our time: the future child of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. Packed full of insight and opinion, this is an account of family life in the house of Windsor and just what it will take to raise a modern monarch. Movie Premiere: Over Her Dead Body (2008) Romantic comedy. After a tragic accident kills his bride-to-be, the grieving would-be groom turns to a local psychic to help him through the pain. However, when romance blossoms between the pair, the spirit of his late partner resolves to ruin their relationship from beyond the grave. Toby’s Travelling Circus: (New Series: 1-2/52) Commencing this week on Milkshake! and exclusive to Channel 5 is a spectacular brand new series all about a boy who runs his own amazing travelling circus. BAMMA 10: Live Mixed Martial Arts (Live) 5* presents live coverage of two highly anticipated mixed martial arts bouts from London’s Wembley Arena. Challenger Andre Winner takes on BAMMA’s World Lightweight Champion Rob Sinclair. Also, witness the BAMMA-Lonsdale British Middleweight title fight between Andrew Punshon and reigning champ Jack Marshman. The ratings pick of these is clearly Being Liverpool. I fancy that to do very well indeed if scheduled well. Slight concern though that Thursday night is showing up as TBA, as Liverpool will be in Europa League action on that night. This wouldn't be a problem in week 1 as their match kicks off at teatime, but for the second leg in week 3 it would be (8.05pm kick-off). |
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Are you old enough to remember when gritty, social realist drama was on every week on BBC1 in peak time for 14 years? Play for Today was one of the BBC's foremost offerings. Most people will think of Abigail's Party, perhaps the lightest and most popular plays of the genre, but more often than not, these were quite grim, one I do recall is about someone who is put in solitary confinement for 30 years for murdering a policeman and turns gay, or is forced into being gay. Not a bundle of laughs by the sound of it, but this what you could expect and ratings were often quite low.
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Nothing wrong with 'Gritty Bafta' dramas but I think viewers prefer something a little more upbeat and escapism. I'm looking forward to Hunted but not sure where it'll go, I'm guessing Mondays or Thursday.
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Making Faces sound interesting, I guess with the success of Midwives on BBC Two, One Born Every Minute and 24 Hours in A&E on Channel 4. I guess Channel 5 are looking for a similar show. I'm surprised they've not considered firefighters, must be the only emergency service that've yet to have a factual series.
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BBC Two have had success with Line of Duty which was very good. I do critics give drama that isn't dark or gritty a hard time, same applies with comedy as well, stuff like 30 Rock get raves over stuff like Mrs Brown's Boys or Miranda.
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Last time I saw it someone had taken a photo of Mika's tits.
Can I say "tits" on the ratings thread? ![]() You've said it, but it's totally unacceptable. In future please stick to more wholesome words like melons, bazookas, paps, mounds, jugs etc... etc.. The word you used was far too vulgar.
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Accused is on BBC1 right now because its a Jimmy McGovern drama and no one ever got bad press for commissioning a Jimmy McGovern drama not because there was any real audience demand to see a second series. And especially not an audience demand that couldn't have been served with one of the many other 'gritty' drama commissions we've seen (and will see) this year.
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Interesting clash tonight with BBC2 showing Diamond League Athletics featuring Usain Bolt et al, and Channel 4 with the Paralympics. I'm not sure who will be the winner there...
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![]() ![]() 600k for ITV1 at 9pm. That is seriously disastrous. I never thought it would go that low. This has been ITV's main problem for a while. If anything big is on any other channel - it just collaspes completely. There's no stability at all. They'll be glad when all this is over!Quote:
Wonder if that means ITV might be trying to lure Graham over to the other side?
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To be fair the World Athletics last year was generally over by 2pm, so was all on C4. The Indoor Champs this year though were moved to More4 to allow for the usual Come Dine with Me marathon on C4, and next years World Champs will be around 5-8pm (they're in Moscow), so I suspect they might use More4 more.
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Provisional scheduling news, thanks to Elgin on GB:
Saturday 15th September 2012 - BBC One has Strictly Come Dancing at 18:30, Doctor Who from 19:35 to 20:20 - ITV1 has The X Factor at 20:00 - Thus meaning a 20 minute overlap between The X Factor and Doctor Who Sunday 16th September 2012 - ITV1 has Downton Abbey from 21:00 to 22:30 Strictly Come Dancing 2012 Launch Trailer - BBC One |
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In fairness Mrs Brown's Boys is awful and it doesn't matter how high viewing figures get no one will ever convince me otherwise. I tend to agree with the general point though.
I'll join that club - I can't stand the show and think the joke of someone acting/dressing up as a woman and f'n this and f'n that every other sentence is tiresome. But - it's a ratings winner for the BBC and good for them unearthing it. |
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I'm sorry but did a show entitled 'Wills and Kate: Baby Fever' just describe itself as being packed with insight?
The feeble sounding talking head bore-athon Will & Kate show will probably be the highest rated though, frustratingly. |
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In fairness Mrs Brown's Boys is awful and it doesn't matter how high viewing figures get no one will ever convince me otherwise. I tend to agree with the general point though.
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I'll join that club - I can't stand the show and think the joke of someone acting/dressing up as a woman and f'n this and f'n that every other sentence is tiresome. But - it's a ratings winner for the BBC and good for them unearthing it.
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Paralympics dented the soaps badly, Corrie the highest rated soap with 6.69m including +1.
![]() Also from Attentional: - Good Cop: 4.06m - The One Show: 3.51m - Paralympics 2012 Tonight: 2.54m (19:30 to 22:30) - Tonight: 2.37m inc +1 Edit - lower numbers for BBC One and ITV1 in the 20:00 hour then, concerning more so for Waterloo Road though. C4 coverage is what it is and I think it still needs to find it's feet (the BBC took a good 3-4 days to get into their stride). It's no surprise the ads are the focal point of most complaints - and C4 will be quite happy with that I'm sure. |
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Full sessions from the Edinburgh TV Fest are now on YouTube, just search for 'mgeitf'. Not actually much there yet, but the session on the Olympics is very interesting. Hopefully the Meet the Controller sessions will be up soon.
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Full sessions from the Edinburgh TV Fest are now on YouTube, just search for 'mgeitf'. Lots of interesting stuff.
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None of the controller sessions are there yet. But they are still adding stuff I think.
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But Lynda La Plante was whining in the papers not long ago that the Beeb weren't commissioning her stuff so it's certainly not the case that they'll commission stuff from name writers regardless, and they wouldn't be shoving it out in August if they were in awe of McGovern. This is not a new thing anyway because Will Wyatt in his book talks about when he was in charge of BBC TV in the eighties and nineties and he said it was a bugger to get more iight drama on the screen because everyone wanted to do gritty and arty stuff. If it's not there they can't show it. The same is true for ITV who have been notorious in the past for endless psychological thrillers, but the audience want that kind of thing. And as has been said, they do plenty of light drama, New Tricks, George Gently and Waterloo Road are all on at the minute, which are frothy mainstream BBC1 dramas to a tee.
Secondly Accused got a fair bit of promotion during the biggest event of the year so the idea they're shoving it out in August doesn't really fit. Thirdly I don't for one second believe that the BBC (or any other broadcaster) can't commission or find light(er) drama. Is anyone honestly going to argue that if Ben Stephenson were to say to production companies, writers, agents, producers and anyone else who'll listen that he wants a series of lighter dramas for BBC1 nobody would pitch? And that none of those pitches and scripts would be any good? Fourthly when, exactly, did Waterloo Road become a pinnacle of 'light, frothy mainstream' drama on BBC1? Does it not give anyone pause for thought that when looking for lighter drama on BBC1 Waterloo Road is something people are bringing up (and have these people watched Waterloo Road)? And whilst I'd agree that something like New Tricks or George Gently certainly have a lighter tone than Accused or Good Cop I'm not entirely sure that's a great qualifying criteria for light and frothy. The fact that both of those shows are crime drama (another genre horribly over exposed on BBC1 and television in general– weren't we supposed to be getting less of that on BBC1?) doesn't help their cause either. |
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How dare you say that about BAFTA's Best Comedy Series of last year!!!
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unless Richard Desmond knows something the rest of us do not, "Wills and Kate: Baby Fever" seems to be in very poor taste, and far more tabloid than a TV channel should be, even one owned by Richard Desmond. I do not want to see the rise of "Tabloid TV", even if shows like TOWIE and the ex-Factor (
) are designed around the tabloids, but I guess this is nothing new, all reality TV can be very tabloid when it wants to be.
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The Radio Times credits the first four episodes of series 2 of In With The Flynns to "Written by Simon Nye" but according to Wikipedia, there are two writers for each of the first three and Nye is just co-writer of episode 1. Poor old Simon, coping the blame for the whole lot.
To be honest I'm expecting to see "Written by Alan Smithee, Alan Smithee and Alan Smithee" in the end credits. ![]() edit: Close. There were no writers credited in the end credits. Nobody wants to assume responsibility.
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) are designed around the tabloids, but I guess this is nothing new, all reality TV can be very tabloid when it wants to be.

