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Do you have an iPhone to go with your other Mac products?
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Stuart_h
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat:
“It's not even that pretty. It looks like a Samsung Galaxy Tab! ”

lol. yes. certainly to the Apple lawyers.

Maybe i could buy her a samsung tab and stick a plastic fruit on the back

she need never know ......
grumpyoldbat
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“lol. yes. certainly to the Apple lawyers.

Maybe i could buy her a samsung tab and stick a plastic fruit on the back

she need never know ...... ”

Set it up with rows of icons, and bob's your uncle!
Tracey.l
22-08-2012
I have an Mac,iPhone,iPad I also have a Windows Laptop and Nexus7 and GalaxyTab 2 7.0.

I do hope Apple bring out a Mini iPad, The Nexus 7 is pretty good but the Samsung Tab 7 2.0 is crap the touch screen is unresponsive if doesn't feel fluid. It kind of all feels like it isn't "optimised".

The Nexus7 is much much more useable than the TAB7 but still hasn't got that smooth flow you get with iOS. I'm sure ultimately boths OS's Android an iOS will end up identical but Android will always have that fragmented not quite there feel about. Unless google tighten everything and create hardware minimum rules.

That's personal opinion and I understand the fact Android is open source and customisable is it's selling point to those that use it.Also the fact you can choose from such a large choice of hardware is also a positive to some people.
Lummo
22-08-2012
I have an iPhone, MacBook Pro and a first gen iPad, and I love how everything just 'works' and when you do one thing on your phone, its on my laptop next time I turn it on, same for my iPad and vice versa
Gormond
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by whoever,hey:
“I loved iOS 2 years ago when i got my iphone. But it hasn't changed in 2 years!

Maybe its because iOS is a stagnant OS? Its a very long time in tech to not improve anything.”

Yeah because Windows looked radically different between Windows 95 to Windows 7?

It's almost identical with the exception of it being see through and a GPU hog.

I wouldn't want them to just change it for the sake of it (Windows 8 anyone?), it would have to be an actual improvement.
Stuart_h
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Lummo:
“I have an iPhone, MacBook Pro and a first gen iPad, and I love how everything just 'works' and when you do one thing on your phone, its on my laptop next time I turn it on, same for my iPad and vice versa ”

Erm .... I do that with my Android phone, 7 inch tablet, 10 inch tablet and my Windows PC too.

.... and have been doing so for years.

it also just 'works' ......

I find it comical how people quote something 'works' as being a bonus for Apple !? DO they really think that Android users put up with a system where everything doesnt work ???

Like ive always said, Apple excel at marketing.

When you get people quoting an advertising phrase as a reason for a purchase then you know that your marketing team is earning their keep.
Faust
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Lummo:
“I have an iPhone, MacBook Pro and a first gen iPad, and I love how everything just 'works' and when you do one thing on your phone, its on my laptop next time I turn it on, same for my iPad and vice versa ”

I would agree with this. It may not be for everyone and I'm sure there are apps you can download that will do a similar job. There is however, a great deal to be said for having all your info, emails etc. instantly available on all you Apple devices with minimal user intervention. This is why I said at the start that I'm interested in those who have Apple devices but don't take that route. Is it a cost issue or is there something else I'm missing?
Faust
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Erm .... I do that with my Android phone, 7 inch tablet, 10 inch tablet and my Windows PC too.

.... and have been doing so for years.

it also just 'works' ......

I find it comical how people quote something 'works' as being a bonus for Apple !? DO they really think that Android users put up with a system where everything doesnt work ???

Like ive always said, Apple excel at marketing.

When you get people quoting an advertising phrase as a reason for a purchase then you know that your marketing team is earning their keep. ”

So was there no user intervention on your part that made all these items "just work" seamlessly together or did you have to do something?
Stiggles
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Faust:
“So was there no user intervention on your part that made all these items "just work" seamlessly together or did you have to do something?”

Nope. Does it on its own.
Faust
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Nope. Does it on its own.”

So to be clear, all your contacts music, data, pics etc. we're instantly synced between phone Windows PC and various tablets with no user intervention?
swordman
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Faust:
“So to be clear, all your contacts music, data, pics etc. we're instantly synced between phone Windows PC and various tablets with no user intervention?”

For someone who was just asking a question you don't seem to like the answer?

And the answer is yes if you want it too I however see my phone laptop and PC as separate entities why anyone would want them all synced up is beyond me to be honest.

You say contacts, data, pics, music why do you want for example the same music on your phone as your pc or laptop all the time? why do you need the same pics on both? why contacts?

Not sure I get the reasoning behind your questions here
Stiggles
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Faust:
“So to be clear, all your contacts music, data, pics etc. we're instantly synced between phone Windows PC and various tablets with no user intervention?”

Yup.

You know, Apple are not the only company who can do this!
alan1302
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Yup.

You know, Apple are not the only company who can do this!”

They are probably the only one that can do it as easily though without user intervention....at least until Microsoft have their Tablet, Phone and Laptop/Desktop Windows 8 all up and running together.
swordman
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“They are probably the only one that can do it as easily though without user intervention....at least until Microsoft have their Tablet, Phone and Laptop/Desktop Windows 8 all up and running together.”

So where is android lacking would you say then, without making a science project out of it
Stiggles
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“They are probably the only one that can do it as easily though without user intervention....at least until Microsoft have their Tablet, Phone and Laptop/Desktop Windows 8 all up and running together.”

Define user intervention....

I entered my email address and that's it. Cant see it any easier than that. As far as i remember, apples way was much more hassle and it rarely ever worked.
alan1302
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by swordman:
“So where is android lacking would you say then, without making a science project out of it ”

Android lacks a laptop/desktop OS like Windows or Mac OS which allows everything to be tied together very easily and without the user really having to think about it. If Google ever had something sucessful desktop OS (Chromebooks not there yet) it would be able to tie users down easier to one OS ecosystem like Apple does really well.
alan1302
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Define user intervention....

I entered my email address and that's it. Cant see it any easier than that. As far as i remember, apples way was much more hassle and it rarely ever worked.”

You must have done more that that to synch a PC/laptop with a phone and tablet - your PC would have needed you to download the software and at least be aware that you can synch everything up and what software to use.

Google (at the moment) can't have such tight integration as Apple as they control the software and hardware together.
Stuart_h
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“You must have done more that that to synch a PC/laptop with a phone and tablet - your PC would have needed you to download the software and at least be aware that you can synch everything up and what software to use.

Google (at the moment) can't have such tight integration as Apple as they control the software and hardware together.”

OK. User intervention. I log into Google on my browser. That's pretty much it ???? I log in once. It remembers it.

Syncs contacts, photos, documents, calendar, phone settings, emails and other stuff.

I can even access all that from ANY other PC (or Mac) I want. Obviously there are other options too such as drop box but you'd probably claim that that required intervention.

Apple have never really invented anything, you know that right ? They have just marketed stuff well.
whoever,hey
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Gormond:
“Yeah because Windows looked radically different between Windows 95 to Windows 7?

It's almost identical with the exception of it being see through and a GPU hog.

I wouldn't want them to just change it for the sake of it (Windows 8 anyone?), it would have to be an actual improvement.”

Windows has nothing to do with it. This is about mobiles where the competition has moved on leaps and bounds in the past 2 years and iOS has done nothing.
alan1302
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by whoever,hey:
“Windows has nothing to do with it. This is about mobiles where the competition has moved on leaps and bounds in the past 2 years and iOS has done nothing.”

Yes, but Windows was just used as an example of where you don't need to move on in leaps and bounds to be successful
whoever,hey
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“Yes, but Windows was just used as an example of where you don't need to move on in leaps and bounds to be successful”

iOS 6 doesn't bring anything new either and its not even out yet. So that takes us up to 3 years without bringing anything new to the table (iOS 7).

The competition has moved on. iOS is stuck in the dark ages of the mobile market now.
alan1302
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by whoever,hey:
“iOS 6 doesn't bring anything new either and its not even out yet. So that takes us up to 3 years without bringing anything new to the table (iOS 7).

The competition has moved on. iOS is stuck in the dark ages of the mobile market now.”

What can't it do that you would expect it to be able to do?

Apart from full customisation as obviously that's not something Apple is suddenly going to want people to do.
Stuart_h
22-08-2012
Of course this android integration makes Google jolly clever because they don't own both hardware and software (unlike apple) and it means that many apple users don't look around at alternative options otherwise they would know android did all this

Apple do make groovy adverts and high five their customers as they go into their shops so it isn't all bad
Stuart_h
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by alan1302:
“What can't it do that you would expect it to be able to do?

Apart from full customisation as obviously that's not something Apple is suddenly going to want people to do.”

Multitasking (properly) ?
Widgets ?
Drag and drop ?
alan1302
22-08-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Of course this android integration makes Google jolly clever because they don't own both hardware and software (unlike apple) and it means that many apple users don't look around at alternative options otherwise they would know android did all this

Apple do make groovy adverts and high five their customers as they go into their shops so it isn't all bad ”

Apple users do look around though as do Android users
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