Windows hardware - anything that is not a Mac

Even though most of the hardware in your mac is also generic pc hardware?

Edit: bugger, i'm biting the off topics! ignore this post.

Not quite anything .... not my fridge for example (yet)

They have traditionally been referred to as PCs as opposed to macs I guess.

Same as with the iPhone/iPad situation. Windows had to cope with millions of hardware combinations (thus giving customers choice) whereas osx had to run on only a few combinations all managed by apple (thus arguably being less buggy)

So apple make there own hardware do they much the same as they do in their phone

The level of knowledge amongst your average apple fan is truly astounding.. Windows hardware... No wonder they sell such overpriced gear to the simple masses and the majority is not even their product

We all know what Faust meant when he called in Windows Hardware - he meant a PC that would normally run Windows ie not a Mac

And I expect the average Apple user is as knowledgeable as the average PC user about the hardware ie they have no idea.

Exactly my point running windows on a machine labelled apple is no different to a pc essentially. At the heart of a mac book eg is a Intel i5/7.

However this is not for computers but it does evidence that what your average apple user believes.. that apple sprinkle magic apple seeds into their equipment to provide that Apple experience and paying twice the price is wholly warranted.

Bwahahahaha!

Always makes me laugh that does

Problem is, Apple does not do it really well.

Its terribly implemented. itunes is the work of the devil for a start! iCloud was a waste of space! I remember attempting to sync a pile of pics from our iphones when i came back from holiday to the Mrs iPad and for whatever reason it just plain refused to do it. Couldnt find a way of manually doing it either. Left it overnight and wonder of wonder it had done it. Well kind of. It did 5 pics out of over 300...Absolutely useless.

If im honest i actually don't do it the google way now since Samsung kindly gave me 50gb of dropbox. That's superb and wipes the floor with icloud in regards to pics etc.

I take a pic and instantly i get a flag on my laptop telling me the pic or video is there in the cloud to view. I can also grab all my music from it as well.

On thing that always wound me up about apple was the absolutely piss poor download speed of apps/music. It was absolutely awful. Thankfully google/dropbox is extremely fast.

They didnt high five me

They just went "oh christ, here he comes again..."....Normally when i had to countless time have my iphone 4S swapped over

That drove me nuts!

Like you, the only customisation you could do and it took me hours one day to do it. I backed the phone up, it went faulty. Got a new one, restored it and the apps were all over the bloody place!!

OEM manufacturers - as I said I have W7 as a VM on my Mac. There are Windows progs I need to use for work.

That still makes no sense oem produce for apple as well any way not relevant here I guess

I did use the word arguably

Were you wearing your Android t-shirt?

All I can gather from this thread is that Android really do need to re-assess their marketing if it's a case that you can do most of the syncing stuff etc. between a Microsoft PC/Laptop and your Android based phone/tablet as easily as you can with Apple products (if they want to move more Apple customers over to Android).

I wasn't aware that Android could do this so easily - I was never informed by either the advertising nor the salesman in the shop.

When I think of Android and the message given by say Samsung, I think "Latest quad core chips, bigger screen than last time, a pen so you can draw things".

When I think of iOS and the message given by Apple, I think "Use your phone as a personal assistant, take photos/videos/notes/reminders etc. and have them available instantly on all your other devices, make your life easier".

So I bought Apple.

I build my own PC's and understand what's going on where, but whereas I might place having the fastest CPU and discrete graphics high on my list of requirements for a new computer, I really don't place it that highly on my list of new phone requirements.

Apple market the features, advantages and benefits of iOS really well, and they demonstrate how using their phone will fit into your everyday life. For me, it's fulfilled those requirements.

And there's one thing I can do that's definitely worth the whole £500 that Android users can't - take video on my iPhone, start up iMovie on my Mac and instantly make an amazing movie trailer with the footage that's still on my phone.

Somehow, the experience (and resutls) wouldn't feel quite the same using a Samsung and Windows Movie Maker.

If you've seen the HTC advertising, you would also know that your phone can be used for doing a photo session whilst sky-diving!

I think you have something there, when you see an advert for an Android phone it's normally one by LG, Samsung etc promoting what their flagship model can do compared to other phones, not what the Android operating system in general can do. Maybe Google should start running Android OS adverts then prospective purchasers can see what it is capable of, then go better equipped to a phone shop and ask if the phone the salesperson is pushing can do <insert ubercool function here>.

Or some research could be done before purchase.

The Galaxy Nexus phone ads did this quite well if i recall.

Erm ....

or you could take your full HD video on your android phone and edit it using Movie Studio directly on your phone (or one of many other options available on the Google Play store) and then drag and drop it to any PC, or even memory stick that i want ....... or upload it directly to Youtube or facebook or Google+ if i want.

With my Android phone i dont even even need an overpriced Mac (or a PC) at all .....

.... or a £500 iPhone

I do my research, you probably do too, I don't think the average user does though.


I don't remember seeing them, are they still running? iPhone ads never seem to be off our screens.

The ads ran for a limited time because Samsung then moved on to advertising the newer models (Note, S3 etc). Thats the benefit of Apples approach I guess - they can spend all year advertising a single model of phone.

Really, so I could get any 'Android phone' and it'll take full HD video, edit it in situ and then copy it to another device or upload it?

Even this one
http://www.google.co.uk/products/cat...d=0CIIBEPMCMAE

No! why not? The description mentions Android so it should work shouldn't it

Or maybe it needs something a bit more up to date, like a Galaxy S3 which oddly enough also seems to be around the £500 mark.

Or maybe stop being silly

Firstly you should be looking for a phone that would do full HD like has been mentioned.

Not very clever at all since nobody mentioned 'any'.....