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ITV Editing - Fran gone tomorrow
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JTW
03-12-2004
Well we all know that Paul Burrell wasn't in the bottom two.

Therefore if we know that, we also know that Janet wasn't in the bottom two last night.

ITV have cut the livefeed to literally NOFEED so that they can manipulate any prediction that they want.

Why even have a livefeed.....again to pretend to us that we might have some control in who we want to vote for on what we actually see and hear.....which basically results to sweet f**k all.

So is this the biggest load of sh*t and most predictable of RTV shows ever, especially at this late stage?

Fran is a cert to be gone tomorrow. Anyone want to gamble that it will be a different 3 in the final?
Mirage
03-12-2004
So does this mean that Joe is pencilled in for "It might be you" tomorrow night?
cute chick
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mirage:
“So does this mean that Joe is pencilled in for "It might be you" tomorrow night?”

Could well be.
JTW
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mirage:
“So does this mean that Joe is pencilled in for "It might be you" tomorrow night?”

LOL I might even put a gamble on that if any bookies want to put the odds on.
Desk
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Well we all know that Paul Burrell wasn't in the bottom two.

Therefore if we know that, we also know that Janet wasn't in the bottom two last night.”

Nope, I don't believe that.

I genuinely feel that tonight's deliberate curveball with Paul was probably the first this series, and designed to unsettle the camp for the last few days and worry the viewers into spending more money.

However, I do agree that Fran is toast tomorrow... his only hope of salvation is that the producers read forums such as these, and, fearing that they've been sussed, sacrifice someone else to try and retain some of the series' perceived integrity.
beanzmeanz
03-12-2004
They've done away with Hogan the koala, so who knows who's next, for "it might be you"
Mirage
03-12-2004
I really miss Hogan.
JTW
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by Desk:
“Nope, I don't believe that.

I genuinely feel that tonight's deliberate curveball with Paul was probably the first this series, and designed to unsettle the camp for the last few days and worry the viewers into spending more money.

However, I do agree that Fran is toast tomorrow... his only hope of salvation is that the producers read forums such as these, and, fearing that they've been sussed, sacrifice someone else to try and retain some of the series' perceived integrity.”

Well true or not, it certainly intrigued the viewers enough to be worried about the bottom two thing.

Because let's face it.....JSP has amazingly sprung back into life and got in to the top three after being in the bottom two. What did she do that was so different today than what she done yesterday.....other than be extra nice to Sophie and yet Sophie goes tonight.

ITV have spun this whole production for the grannies, teeny bops and just about everybody except the true RTV boffins who like to watch, study and analyse 24/7....which has been cruelly taken from us by the sham that they dare to call a livefeed.

Result = RTV....no. Fake, contrived show...yes.
dome
03-12-2004
They edited Fran well tonight. He had been a bear with a sore head all day. Even Sophie had been complaining about him.
JTW
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by dome:
“They edited Fran well tonight. He had been a bear with a sore head all day. Even Sophie had been complaining about him.”

TBH I was too busy watching how changed JSP was on tonight's show. I'm going solely on the betting before the show and how it dramatically changed, but even more how the 'it might be you' quote dramatically changes the betting in combination with the selective editing.

Like you noted, where was Fran tonight?

I actually thought it was a genius stroke that he changed the dynamics of the group for the first time. He told Janet to get out of the kitchen....first time ever! The guy deserves a bloody medal and to win for that ingenuity alone.

But alas, he will be gone tomorrow............it's all too obvious, unless ITV reads this post and pulls a stunt to totally surprise us all. I very much doubt it.
pony
03-12-2004
Who has the next task? I can't remember if it was Paul or Fran??
dome
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by JTW:
“I actually thought it was a genius stroke that he changed the dynamics of the group for the first time. He told Janet to get out of the kitchen....first time ever! The guy deserves a bloody medal and to win for that ingenuity alone.

”

If true it would have been a master stroke, but they even showed him reading from the laminate and not enforcing his so called 'rules' when it was Sophie's task to collect logs.
dome
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by pony:
“Who has the next task? I can't remember if it was Paul or Fran??”

It's Paul.

'Hell Hole' it's called.
Susann
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mirage:
“I really miss Hogan. ”


I don't he was a trouble maker, he should have gone first
Susann
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by dome:
“It's Paul.

'Hell Hole' it's called.”

Poor Paul If that is anything like the task where Jennie Bond had to lie in that hole for ages with rats and things running over her. Paul will be screaming on this one if it is
pony
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by dome:
“It's Paul.

'Hell Hole' it's called.”

Thanks! I'm quite looking forward to it, I didn't know the title! Though without a task to sustain him, I fear it must be poor Franling for the push now...
kizzie
03-12-2004
Originally Posted by Susann:
“Poor Paul If that is anything like the task where Jennie Bond had to lie in that hole for ages with rats and things running over her. Paul will be screaming on this one if it is ”

God yes that one was nasty I'm fairly brave but to be honest I'm not to sure I could have don't that one
kizzie
04-12-2004
I don't get all this editing stuff ? I mean why , what is the point
why cant they just let us see how it is ?

why is one person better to win than another ?

It really is going to be the death of RTV
dome
04-12-2004
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“I don't get all this editing stuff ? I mean why , what is the point
why cant they just let us see how it is ?

why is one person better to win than another ?

It really is going to be the death of RTV ”

Ratings and the publicity afterwards, giving the show a high profile = money in the coffers.
JTW
04-12-2004
Originally Posted by kizzie:
“I don't get all this editing stuff ? I mean why , what is the point
why cant they just let us see how it is ?

why is one person better to win than another ?

It really is going to be the death of RTV ”

Originally Posted by Dome:
“Ratings and the publicity afterwards, giving the show a high profile = money in the coffers:”

Kizzie, I'm afraid that Dome is right here. I just hope that Endemol don't follow suit and go down this route.. i.e cut off the livefeed so that we...the 24/7ers, can't give an objective view. Mind you, Endemol are good at pretty selective editing themselves, but never to this extent.
cookietee
04-12-2004
You have got to query the voting results when the cards are in front of them with the results BEFORE they say the phone lines are shut.Something is definately amiss here.
This ventures on false representation if true.
Mesostim
04-12-2004
Hmmm....editing....on that subject I'd suspect that ITV wouldn;t want Paul to win. He was only in to get people to cast hate votes, I don;t think he was meant to come this far. One theory of why certain types are edited for is because they become embassadors for the show....lots of free publicity and press coverage for the King/Queen of the Jungle..winner of Big Bro etc etc etc.....Paul Burrell has the worst PR of any celeb you could mention....If he wins the Daily Express is hardly going to be praising his name is it........

Just a thought.....
JTW
04-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Hmmm....editing....on that subject I'd suspect that ITV wouldn;t want Paul to win. He was only in to get people to cast hate votes, I don;t think he was meant to come this far. One theory of why certain types are edited for is because they become embassadors for the show....lots of free publicity and press coverage for the King/Queen of the Jungle..winner of Big Bro etc etc etc.....Paul Burrell has the worst PR of any celeb you could mention....If he wins the Daily Express is hardly going to be praising his name is it........

Just a thought.....”

Mesostim, I'm tying to get my thinking hat on as to who is the real worthy winner if we are judging by true embassadors and all that.

All and all....my opinion is that the true emabassor has got be Joe Pasquale.

He's done nothing to offend a single human, ant, emu or insect in the jungle. In fact, he went into the jungle and never stood on a single insect. Well done Joe...your a true ambassador and king of the jungle.

Is that it? Is it so simple?

If so, I'm more disgusted than what I originally was.

Please win Fran.
SULLA
04-12-2004
I have been watching him for the past half hour. I have never noticed before how much he swears. Now Joe never swears. Shame.
compliance
04-12-2004
the bottom 2 are always the bottom 2 in the vote.......it is not rigged
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