very possible

anyone know what would happen if frank was to nom ian who would take his place in the veto since he has said he cant play in it

Ian can't play in the PoV, because he already holds a Veto. There will be a draw for the other HG's, 1 will have to sit out.

I watched her DR when she was handcuffed to Brendan for 24 hours again earlier, absolutely epic


Yep, it'll be very interesting what Brit does in the POV this week. Will she actually try and win it or is she willing to let Dan go. Either winning or throwing it could potentially send Shane home.

Frank says he will pick Shane to play in the PoV, if he can.

Do we know when Ian has to use his POV?

Seems a bit harsh if he can get nominated and still not get to play in the POV comp. Makes me think he might have to use his POV after nominations but before the comp.

i know ian cant play because he already holds a veto. What i was saying is say frank nominates Ian & Dan how would they decide who took Ian's place in the veto comp thats what was asking.


Would they just draw everyone's name out untill only 1 remained in the bag and that person would be the person not to play.

He would use it at the Veto Ceremony on Monday.

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If Ian is nominated he would draw a name from the bag in the usual way. I presume then there would be only 5 Veto players. Ian would sit out, along with the 2 undrawn HG's.

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thats what was asking if ian was to be nommed would there just be 5 in veto or would they just draw untill 1 remained.

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I have no doubt whatever that both Shane and Britney would try to win the Veto. Whatever Frank is saying to them now, If Dan or Danielle win it, they may not be safe.

And they all better be extra nice to Ian this weekend....

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Shane will, Brit probably will as well as she's not the type the throw comps but I'm just not sure if she should be winning this one. I think the best case scenario for Brit would probably be Dan leaving this week and the QP going after Frank next week. If she does win it puts her in a tricky position. The QP is done if she doesn't use it (I can't see whoever survives out of D/D forgiving her and not only that but Ian could still use his veto on Dan, Shane goes up and out and Brit is royally ****ed!). If she does use it Shane could be going home (if Ian is inital replacement nominee).

Britney could use the excuse she's protecting Shane, after all, it's exactly what Dan and Danielle would do.

I think the only way the QP can lose a member and remain intact is if frank wins the veto/Ian is nommed. I think regardless of who wins veto if its a member of the QP and they dont use it imo the QP is over.

Normally yes but with Ian holding a veto already I'm not sure she can here. I certainly would consider my alliance with her done if I was in D/D's position. I wouldn't put it past Dan to properly throw Brit under the bus to Ian, if she doesn't use it, and get him to take one of them off. He would be right to as well. The absolute only reasons to not use it are either not trusting Ian to take a QP member off the block (and make it a QP member v a non QP member meaning they control who goes) or she doesn't think Ian has done well enough convincing Frank not to put him up. There are no other reasons she can give for not using it. It has to be one of those two.

Also even if Ian didn't have a veto you think someone as crazy as Danielle would forgive her for not using the veto on either of them? Clearly Brit shouldn't in that scenario but this is Danielle we're talking about here

If the QP remain totally committed to each other they should all survive this week imo. Ian/Brit/Shane all have Frank's ear enough to convince him to put up Joe as a pawn and then vote him out.

any word on who frank has nommed yet as wont it of happened by now or is it later on

Since it's clear that Ian can be nominated despite possessing this particular Veto, what's to stop Frank from nominating him after he uses it on someone else? Thus preventing Ian from using it on anyone but himself......

i thought somebody mentioned earlier in this thread that ian was immune even if he used it on someone else

Yeah that's the only reason I was posting all of that. I asked a couple of hours ago would Ian be immune if he used it and was told yes, if he isn't then none D/D have to win the veto to save themselves.

We know the PoV holder can't be used as a re-nomination no matter what, but Ian can clearly be nominated despite holding his Veto, so the rules are obviously different.

where's that been made clear. I thought it was same rules as normal PoV.