Samsung/Apple Jury Reaches Verdict

Stiggles · 24-08-2012, 23:57

Well here it is, i get the feeing Samsung is going to get royally screwed here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19377261

Details are starting to come in now..

Stuart_h · 25-08-2012, 00:00

A sad day for competition if apple win on some of their claims.

Stiggles · 25-08-2012, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart_h

A sad day for competition if apple win on some of their claims.

It will be.

Me thinks it will be slightly biased since its in America.

Oh dear:-

Details are still being read out, but several of Samsung's devices have been found to have infringed Apple's software and design patents.

whoever,hey · 25-08-2012, 00:01

I found the 22 page doc very interesting that the jury had to fill in during the week.

I also was shocked at the hollywood nonsense the lawyers were spouting at the closing statements the other day.

Stiggles · 25-08-2012, 00:03

I still love the whole 'customers returned galaxy tabs because they thought they were ipads! Whoever made that up should be slapped silly!!

Everything Goes · 25-08-2012, 00:05

Saint Steve will be happy!

Stiggles · 25-08-2012, 00:07

'The nine-person jury at the federal court in San Jose, California '

Hmm....

Stuart_h · 25-08-2012, 00:11

Yep. Look like they've been screwed over in the USA but come out tops in south Korea. Odd, eh

Wonder how many months of appeals we will see ?

Everything Goes · 25-08-2012, 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

'The nine-person jury at the federal court in San Jose, California '

Hmm....

The main problem is putting clueless general public on the jury in the first place. They took 21 hours to consider a few weeks testimony!

whoever,hey · 25-08-2012, 00:12

Live judgement
http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/

Stiggles · 25-08-2012, 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

The main problem is putting clueless general public on the jury in the first place. They took 21 hours to consider a few weeks testimony!

Yeah, i think it will go to appeal and apple will lose several of them.

Meanwhile, it seems Samsung have been found guilty on several counts. Jury leaves court wth new ipads, iphones and a few $$ in their back pockets

wildphantom! · 25-08-2012, 00:14

Damages from Samsung to Apple, zero. Wow.

Samsung should have settled this out of court.

Everything Goes · 25-08-2012, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

Live judgement
http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/

Apple have won $1.05 billion in damages.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/24/32...amages-verdict

Stuart_h · 25-08-2012, 00:19

Well apple wanted 2.5bn (cos they need it ?) And got just over 1 ....

The result does seem very quick and very one sided.

I wonder if this will cause Google/Motorola to roll out some of the big gun patents ?

wildphantom! · 25-08-2012, 00:19

Samsung knew this was coming, looking at the internal
documents over the trial they were hell bent in 'copying' the iPhone. They have learned there lesson with their new products SIII and TouchWiz has changed. But Apple are restricting the market, no question.

More importantly were does this leave Google with Android? Apple are taking them to court and it will probably have the same result.

Stiggles · 25-08-2012, 00:20

I think it will go to appeal.

I still find the whole thing hilarious though and think Apple have shot themselves in the foot. They may get some money but, in the long run they have shown they are a bunch of absolute tossers and it will put people off buying them.

Stiggles · 25-08-2012, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildphantom!

Samsung knew this was coming, looking at the internal
documents over the trial they were hell bent in 'copying' the iPhone. They have learned there lesson with their new products SIII and TouchWiz has changed. But Apple are restricting the market, no question.

More importantly were does this leave Google with Android? Apple are taking them to court and it will probably have the same result.

They need to have a judge with some balls to come in and throw the whole lot out telling them all to bloody grow up.

MTUK1 · 25-08-2012, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildphantom!

Samsung knew this was coming, looking at the internal
documents over the trial they were hell bent in 'copying' the iPhone. They have learned there lesson with their new products SIII and TouchWiz has changed. But Apple are restricting the market, no question.

More importantly were does this leave Google with Android? Apple are taking them to court and it will probably have the same result.

Apple deserve to win for the Android case. It's a direct rip off of IOS.

wildphantom! · 25-08-2012, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

They need to have a judge with some balls to come in and throw the whole lot out telling them all to bloody grow up.

Judge Koh in this trial was like that! She was pissed off throughout and wanted this settled as soon as possible. She didn't take any crap from the attorneys from both sides.

steviedab · 25-08-2012, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

I think it will go to appeal.

I still find the whole thing hilarious though and think Apple have shot themselves in the foot. They may get some money but, in the long run they have shown they are a bunch of absolute tossers and it will put people off buying them.

Thats why i jumped shipped from using iPhone to Samsung - realised Apple are just bullies and I do not support companies that show this behaviour in public. Apple are damaging their reputation and it's their own fault at the end of the day.

Everything Goes · 25-08-2012, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

I think it will go to appeal.

I still find the whole thing hilarious though and think Apple have shot themselves in the foot. They may get some money but, in the long run they have shown they are a bunch of absolute tossers and it will put people off buying them.

This judgement wont stop people buying Apple products.

Saint Steve Jobs wanted to destroy Android. His minions are carrying out out his final wishes.

whoever,hey · 25-08-2012, 00:24

I think they will put people off buying any more from them, if they were stuck in the middle.

This whole case is a joke because Samsung already had designs announced before the original iphone came out. Then there is the whole patents being obvious thing that shouldn't have even been registered.

There are so many things wrong with phone patents in the world atm.

Everything Goes · 25-08-2012, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

I think they will put people off buying any more from them, if they were stuck in the middle.

This whole case is a joke because Samsung already had designs announced before the original iphone came out. Then there is the whole patents being obvious thing that shouldn't have even been registered.

There are so many things wrong with phone patents in the world atm.

Yes the patent law need cleared up but until then Apple can throw enough money at this as they like.

wildphantom! · 25-08-2012, 00:28

I'm not a advocate for Apple at all but did any off you (who say Apple is the 'bad guy') see Samsung's documents when the iPhone was released, they changed the design, icons, buttons on the original S to compete with the iPhone.

It was blatant copying. Breaking down each and every part of iOS to make it look the same in TouchWiz.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/8/322...ce-improvement

Stiggles · 25-08-2012, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUK1

Apple deserve to win for the Android case. It's a direct rip off of IOS.

Is it hell!!

Its much better for a start!!

24-08-2012, 23:57	#1
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Samsung/Apple Jury Reaches Verdict Well here it is, i get the feeing Samsung is going to get royally screwed here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19377261 Details are starting to come in now..

25-08-2012, 00:00	#2
Stuart_h Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,474	A sad day for competition if apple win on some of their claims.

25-08-2012, 00:01	#3
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by Stuart_h A sad day for competition if apple win on some of their claims. It will be. Me thinks it will be slightly biased since its in America. Oh dear:- Details are still being read out, but several of Samsung's devices have been found to have infringed Apple's software and design patents.

25-08-2012, 00:01	#4
whoever,hey Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 30,072	I found the 22 page doc very interesting that the jury had to fill in during the week. I also was shocked at the hollywood nonsense the lawyers were spouting at the closing statements the other day.

25-08-2012, 00:03	#5
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	I still love the whole 'customers returned galaxy tabs because they thought they were ipads! Whoever made that up should be slapped silly!!

25-08-2012, 00:05	#6
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Saint Steve will be happy!

25-08-2012, 00:07	#7
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	'The nine-person jury at the federal court in San Jose, California ' Hmm....

25-08-2012, 00:11	#8
Stuart_h Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,474	Yep. Look like they've been screwed over in the USA but come out tops in south Korea. Odd, eh Wonder how many months of appeals we will see ?

25-08-2012, 00:12	#9
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles 'The nine-person jury at the federal court in San Jose, California ' Hmm.... The main problem is putting clueless general public on the jury in the first place. They took 21 hours to consider a few weeks testimony!

25-08-2012, 00:14	#11
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes The main problem is putting clueless general public on the jury in the first place. They took 21 hours to consider a few weeks testimony! Yeah, i think it will go to appeal and apple will lose several of them. Meanwhile, it seems Samsung have been found guilty on several counts. Jury leaves court wth new ipads, iphones and a few $$ in their back pockets

25-08-2012, 00:14	#12
wildphantom! Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Glasgow Posts: 559	Damages from Samsung to Apple, zero. Wow. Samsung should have settled this out of court.

25-08-2012, 00:17	#13
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by whoever,hey Live judgement http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/ Apple have won $1.05 billion in damages. http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/24/32...amages-verdict

25-08-2012, 00:19	#14
Stuart_h Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,474	Well apple wanted 2.5bn (cos they need it ?) And got just over 1 .... The result does seem very quick and very one sided. I wonder if this will cause Google/Motorola to roll out some of the big gun patents ?

25-08-2012, 00:20	#16
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	I think it will go to appeal. I still find the whole thing hilarious though and think Apple have shot themselves in the foot. They may get some money but, in the long run they have shown they are a bunch of absolute tossers and it will put people off buying them.

25-08-2012, 00:21	#17
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by wildphantom! Samsung knew this was coming, looking at the internal documents over the trial they were hell bent in 'copying' the iPhone. They have learned there lesson with their new products SIII and TouchWiz has changed. But Apple are restricting the market, no question. More importantly were does this leave Google with Android? Apple are taking them to court and it will probably have the same result. They need to have a judge with some balls to come in and throw the whole lot out telling them all to bloody grow up.

25-08-2012, 00:23	#18
MTUK1 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 19,783	Quote: Originally Posted by wildphantom! Samsung knew this was coming, looking at the internal documents over the trial they were hell bent in 'copying' the iPhone. They have learned there lesson with their new products SIII and TouchWiz has changed. But Apple are restricting the market, no question. More importantly were does this leave Google with Android? Apple are taking them to court and it will probably have the same result. Apple deserve to win for the Android case. It's a direct rip off of IOS.

25-08-2012, 00:23	#19
wildphantom! Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Glasgow Posts: 559	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles They need to have a judge with some balls to come in and throw the whole lot out telling them all to bloody grow up. Judge Koh in this trial was like that! She was pissed off throughout and wanted this settled as soon as possible. She didn't take any crap from the attorneys from both sides.

25-08-2012, 00:23	#20
steviedab Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: London Posts: 292	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles I think it will go to appeal. I still find the whole thing hilarious though and think Apple have shot themselves in the foot. They may get some money but, in the long run they have shown they are a bunch of absolute tossers and it will put people off buying them. Thats why i jumped shipped from using iPhone to Samsung - realised Apple are just bullies and I do not support companies that show this behaviour in public. Apple are damaging their reputation and it's their own fault at the end of the day.

25-08-2012, 00:24	#21
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles I think it will go to appeal. I still find the whole thing hilarious though and think Apple have shot themselves in the foot. They may get some money but, in the long run they have shown they are a bunch of absolute tossers and it will put people off buying them. This judgement wont stop people buying Apple products. Saint Steve Jobs wanted to destroy Android. His minions are carrying out out his final wishes.

25-08-2012, 00:27	#23
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by whoever,hey I think they will put people off buying any more from them, if they were stuck in the middle. This whole case is a joke because Samsung already had designs announced before the original iphone came out. Then there is the whole patents being obvious thing that shouldn't have even been registered. There are so many things wrong with phone patents in the world atm. Yes the patent law need cleared up but until then Apple can throw enough money at this as they like.

25-08-2012, 00:28	#24
wildphantom! Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Glasgow Posts: 559	I'm not a advocate for Apple at all but did any off you (who say Apple is the 'bad guy') see Samsung's documents when the iPhone was released, they changed the design, icons, buttons on the original S to compete with the iPhone. It was blatant copying. Breaking down each and every part of iOS to make it look the same in TouchWiz. http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/8/322...ce-improvement

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Samsung/Apple Jury Reaches Verdict

25-08-2012, 00:28	#25
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by MTUK1 Apple deserve to win for the Android case. It's a direct rip off of IOS. Is it hell!! Its much better for a start!!