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Old 25-08-2012, 01:14
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Appears the case is still going and there has been some problems found.

http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:15
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Lost 1 sales in this house. Making your post factually incorrect.
Lol. A company which rightfully protects its intellectual property makes you not want to buy something from it?
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:15
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Wow. I don't know if your joking.
Don't know if i'm joking with what exactly?

The fact this could cost apple more in sales than they win?

Heavy handed companies never continue to do well and this may be what happens to Apple.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:17
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Lol. A company which rightfully protects its intellectual property makes you not want to buy something from it?
Its IP?

You mean what they pinched from other people? Namely LGs design to then using other people tech in the phones (motorola) and not paying the required fees.....
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:17
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The court is back in order and Judge Koh is back at the bench.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:17
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Lol. A company which rightfully protects its intellectual property makes you not want to buy something from it?
Protect IP? Hardly.

Its the stiffling innovation which they are doing which i vulgarly detest with vomit which makes me not want to buy something from them ever again.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:19
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If you're going to design a device that has the maximum possible screen size for a particular sized device, it is inevitable that they will look similar. It is would be almost impossible to design anything that looked very different, as space is limited. Things that are obvious because of design constraints or considerations(eg no sharp edges) should not be allowed to be patented,
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:19
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Don't know if i'm joking with what exactly?

The fact this could cost apple more in sales than they win?

Heavy handed companies never continue to do well and this may be what happens to Apple.
Let's bookmark this thread for a years time. I will make a prediction that iPhone 5 will be Apple's biggest phone ever. You say that sales will be affected. Let's come back in a year and see who's correct.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:20
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Don't know if i'm joking with what exactly?

The fact this could cost apple more in sales than they win?

Heavy handed companies never continue to do well and this may be what happens to Apple.
Apple's stock shows no sign of slowing down, and this last quarter will be huge for the company. This news will be in the papers for a day and that's it. It's not going to have this massive effect to the public. The opposite will probably happen, shareholders will be very confident the next time Apple go into court.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:20
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Let's bookmark this thread for a years time. I will make a prediction that iPhone 5 will be Apple's biggest phone ever. You say that sales will be affected. Let's come back in a year and see who's correct.
Done
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:21
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Niley has posted a new article on The Verge pretty much sums it all up

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/24/32...-what-it-means
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:22
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Let's bookmark this thread for a years time. I will make a prediction that iPhone 5 will be Apple's biggest phone ever. You say that sales will be affected. Let's come back in a year and see who's correct.
They cant stay at 3.5" forever!
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:22
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I'll look forward to gloating at you.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:23
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Apple's stock shows no sign of slowing down, and this last quarter will be huge for the company. This news will be in the papers for a day and that's it. It's not going to have this massive effect to the public. The opposite will probably happen, shareholders will be very confident the next time Apple go into court.
Well, we shall see i guess.

No one knows what's going to happen i guess but the fact myself and another on this thread of the same 5 or so people replying, refuse to buy another apple product, and the many ive seen on the XDA forums shows it is having an impact. Maybe not a big one but an impact nevertheless.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:23
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Samsung's attorneys are now arguing that the jury's finding of patent exhaustion not be valid because one of the prerequisites for patent exhaustion is that Apple's devices had infringed in the first place.
Blimey.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:23
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Its IP?

You mean what they pinched from other people? Namely LGs design to then using other people tech in the phones (motorola) and not paying the required fees.....
If you mean the FRAND patents. Google and everyone were doing the same. Google only managed to accquire MM a few months ago - and it was a very strategic move. There's going to be loads of lawsuits coming from that. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ent_power.html
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:23
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I'll look forward to gloating at you.
We shall see
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:24
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If you mean the FRAND patents. Google and everyone were doing the same. Google only managed to accquire MM a few months ago - and it was a very strategic move. There's going to be loads of lawsuits coming from that. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ent_power.html
Yup. The whole system needs a huge overhaul to be honest.

its a bloody mess.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:25
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There shouldn't be a need for "strategy" when it comes to patents!!!! It goes against the entire bloody point of the laws.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:26
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In the long term, we're sure to see lots of UI behaviors change across Android — most companies have already moved away from the bounceback scrolling behavior protected by the Apple patent in this case, and we're sure to see tap-to-zoom and multitouch scrolling behavior affected on new devices as well. We're also sure to see new handsets adopt highly differentiated designs, as Apple has proven both its design patent and trade dress claims are strong enough to persuade a jury. That's already happening, and it's a good thing; Samsung's the only phone maker Apple has sued for copying the iPhone's design, and its more recent devices like the Galaxy S III already have unique designs. More differentiation in the market is ultimately good for consumers.
It's the connection Apple makes with the jury rather than forcing technical terms, that much money on 9 people.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:27
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This verdict is a gunshot wound to the head of innovation and creativity from point blank range with fatal implications.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:28
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Yup. The whole system needs a huge overhaul to be honest.

its a bloody mess.
There shouldn't be a need for "strategy" when it comes to patents!!!! It goes against the entire bloody point of the laws.
I agree. However this is the game they are all playing at the moment. The only real winners are the lawyers raking in the cash.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:35
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I guess the good thing is, if companies remove features from Android because of this, the OS is so well supported they can be added back anyway!
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:44
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Why should simple things like gestures be protected? It means that every new developer has to come up with it's own unique set of gestures. That is ridiculous.
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Old 25-08-2012, 01:47
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Actually, looking more into this, it will only affect the US.
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