True, if I had known that was the thing I'd be remembered for I probably wouldn't have posted it especially without channel numbers. Having said that, I've been way more right than wrong and the 2 out of the 4 channels I mentioned in that infamous post did become available.

I think you mean further up the EPG.


Just because it was "broadcast" does not make available, as far as I am aware, prior to it appearing on the Sky EPG it was not available in any medium to the general public in HD.

Exclusivity on Sky would be an "exclusivity to list and advertise the availability of a channel with a subscription package", therefore Sky had exclusivity, as it wasnt available on all packages.

Plus the fact both Channel 4 and Sky have said that it is available exclusively on that platform.

this is pathetic.

I don't why you're arguing.

The C4 and Sky press release: http://corporate.sky.com/media/press...t_of_channel_4
Notice there's no mention of exclusivity.

Red Bee started playout of More4 HD in late 2011. The feed was only available on the More4 website before becoming available on Sky. Yes Sky was the first TV platform to offer the channel but people had been able to watch the channel before they did, which means Sky didn't have to pay C4 to set up the channel resulting in platform exclusivity.

I wouldn't be surprised if VM do something like this.

141. C4 HD
142. C4 +1
143. E4
144. E4 +1
145. More4
146. More4 +1
147. 4seven

195. E4 HD
196. More4 HD

At one point last year there was a HD stream of More4 on Channel 4 website.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...php?p=59271219

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To be fair to MM it's been 7 months now, so how much longer DO we have to wait....... I think Technix is full of bull!

Which I've now admitted was, but wasn't something I believed to be at time of posting. I think you'll be waiting at least a few years now until the current carriage agreement ends and before you possibly see Universal and E! HD appearing on VM.

I'm not VM and never have claimed to be. If you want to believe what I, as a stranger on a discussion forum, am posting instead of waiting for an official news release then that's up to you.

Universal HD is the most wanted non Sky HD channel in my opinion.

It annoys me to see "available in HD" on the Universal On Demand adverts before the programme starts.

It does beg the question why Universal HD and E! HD were not included when VM renewed their carriage agreement with NBC Universal ? Style launched , Syfy and Universal added to Virgin TV Anywhere , Syfy and Universal added to On Demand.

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Maybe they just plain FORGOT!................. ...... Simplesssss.............

You are incorrectly assuming my profile is up to date. I'm interested because there is a massive misrepresentation going on that I feel makes VM look bad to the public because they expect these fabricated stories to occur.

I don't live in pre-1453 Istanbul either.

If you guys could refrain from bickering please, it's adding nothing to the discussion and is becoming very childish.

A channel carried solely on one platform is technically "exclusive" but that doesn't necessarily mean that the carriage contract has an exclusivity clause.

Channel numbers for new channels have been suggested previously but have changed with a minor channel reorganisation at the point of launch, it's not a big deal.

There are several people on both forums with a good track record for bringing accurate information about new channel launches, that's not a guarantee that everything they suggest will actually happen. There are also people who simply make stuff up, which sometimes turns out to be a lucky guess but usually doesn't. There will always be speculation and rumour, if you can't live with less than 100% accuracy, don't read these threads.

My concern is that the "coming soon" thread on the other forum isn't clearly identified as a mainly speculative thread, with "sources" being almost anyone who states anything (indeed, I am now a source). It states channels are testing that blatantly aren't, and therefore people reading it believe that Virgin, or someone authoritative with information, have confirmed these as imminent launches.

Much of what is supposedly testing can be confirmed by hooking up many modern TVs to the network. The speculation of "internal" tests are baseless and there's no reason for such tests for an experienced operator that knows how to work a DVB-C network, transcoders and all the associated hardware.

It's pretty obviously speculation after reading a few pages. It amuses me that, even when posters, known to be closely linked to VM, challenge certain supposedly "official" leaks, other posters reply claiming that the information came from VM. It's Chinese whispers.

Don't worry about being named as a source, if a poster doesn't disclose where they got the info, others will invariably ask for the source. At least they've not referred to you as an "insider" ..yet.


They perhaps don't test enough, or problems such as the delay in launching the ITV HD channels would have become obvious before the 11th hour. As for the reported "tests", I generally take these claims with a pinch of salt. Even though I have equipment with cable tuners, it's not something I'd bother trying to verify.

There are three rules.
[LIST=1][*]VM CS won't know anything before channel launches; and sometimes not even after
[*]VM won't tell anyone before any official announcement.
[*]The only time I believe anything is when the channel appears on my Tivo.[/LIST]

Nobody expects CS to know anything. Not a VM issue, basically all CS. I have noticed VM tightening up on " sources" but that is making speculation worse. Basically every Thursday some clown is waiting on Sky Atlantic.

CONFIRMED

Launching Tuesday 1st October:
199 - Fox+
203 - More4HD

Yesterday will also move to 206 with it's +1 on 207

They are definitely in need of a reshuffle now maybe they should just move the Documentary and Lifestyle up to 250-299 like someone else posted on another thread.

I was flicking around last night and noticed a placeholder on channel 700 for a new channel called Tiddlers TV

It is a channel for pre-school kids. Nothing to do with fishing

New Rumour:

TiddlersTV may start broadcasting on Tuesday 1st October - it will be a interactive kids service offering several kids programmes behind the red button.

TiddlersTV will be on Virgin Channel 700 from launch.

I think a huge reshuffle will be coming before Christmas , don't be too surprised to see something similar to Sky with HD channels such as SKY1HD will be on 121 etc.

This would be a good feature to have, but I imagine it's quite complex for VM to introduce. The HD swap on Sky works because anyone receiving the HD channel also receives the SD version.

But VM package their HD channels differently. Take for example ITV2,3 & 4. Would M+ and L customers see the SD variants swapped to the 180s despite not having access to the HD channels?

Is it also possible that the reason for the current moving of HD channels further down the EPG is because more customers can access +1 channels (M+,L, XL) than HD channels (XL only)? In terms of viewing figures, it could be more worthwhile to have +1s nearer the top of the EPG than HD channels.

true, however it shouldn't be too hard.

TiVo us had HD channel swap, it's inbuilt into the software, and presumably could just have a channelmap installed?
so say you went to 101 BBC 1, it would look for HD swap = on if it is, it'll see a flag set that says 108 and flipt o it automatically.

5 More channels to launch before the 17th December

I can now confirm some new channels

120 sky1+1
603 sky news hd
316 mtv classic vh1 moving to 318
519 sky sports news hd
425 True movies HD (virgin exclusive)

I can also confirm baby tv to join xl very soon
also virgin media staff have been told to stop saying xl from November they have to call xl the Premier collection

Not really a exclusive is it? Considering just last week i saw the True MoviesHD and Babytv rumours on another forum.

If true though everything else you said hasn't been mentioned anywhere else as far as i can see.

Could be an issue with regional programmes on BBC1 which aren't available on HD.