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is their a future for ESPN in the UK at the moment?
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BT Vision, having just bought ESPN's English club rugby content as well as their French club rugby rights, are understood to be in talks with the Disney-owned network over taking even more of what's left of their sports portfolio. BT, building a sports channel around their 38 games a season of Premier League football, have also poached highly rated football producer Stephen Cook from ESPN, whose UK operation is doomed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...rles-Sale.html
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Losing ESPN would be a major bummer for me. Its what made XL attractive to me in the first place.
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I used to be a VM customer (years ago but it doesn't seem to have changed much) so I know how crap it is, imo of course. Yeah SKY may be more expensive in the long run but the choice in channels far outweighs the cost. Yeah we pay for having HD channels but £120/£10pm for 60+ channels seems a good deal to me. You have the floor
![]() I wanted more HD channels for my £ so I switched to Sky. I don't see the point in spending a fortune on a HDTV and not using it to it's potential and I wasn't getting that with VM, although I admit I don't know how many HD channels VM have now.
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I used to be a VM customer (years ago but it doesn't seem to have changed much) so I know how crap it is, imo of course. Yeah SKY may be more expensive in the long run but the choice in channels far outweighs the cost. Yeah we pay for having HD channels but £120/£10pm for 60+ channels seems a good deal to me. You have the floor
![]() I wanted more HD channels for my £ so I switched to Sky. I don't see the point in spending a fortune on a HDTV and not using it to it's potential and I wasn't getting that with VM, although I admit I don't know how many HD channels VM have now. £93 gets me -Tivo -VHD box on multiroom -All channels VM has to offer (including HD) -All on demand except Filmflex -100 meg broadband -unlimited talk -lower rate international calls So which deal is better? do you get all of that with sky? |
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£93 gets me
-Tivo -VHD box on multiroom -All channels VM has to offer (including HD) -All on demand except Filmflex -100 meg broadband -unlimited talk -lower rate international calls So which deal is better? do you get all of that with sky? Sky+HD Box Sky Go on two devices All the channels Sky have to offer (including HD & all Sports) ESPN All the Sky Movie Library on Sky Anytime+ (except SBO) Sky 3D (Including Movies and Sports) Truly unlimited broadband with no traffic management (ideal for gaming) Line rental Free evening and weekend calls. Note will rise by approx £10 in 3 months for ESPN. Actually I'm only paying £75 but we wont go into discounts.
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I'll admit your BB speed is better than ours and your on demand service is excellent too BUT Sky are updating theirs so it should be just as good as VM's. It was the lack of HD channels available and that's something that VM don't seem to be bothered about changing. I can't compare the calls side of it as we don't have a phone plugged in at home but as you probably know, Sky customers need to have a phone line for their BB although their fibre optic may change that (i dunno).
I used to pay £21.50 for VM 10MB BB and I now pay £7.50 for a better speed from Sky, although I must factor in the line rental now. Just out of curiosity, How much is VM's top TV package (without phone and BB I mean. I was trying to compare HD channels from both. I just don't think VM's customers get a good enough choice of HD channels. |
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At the moment £82.95 gets me ;
Sky+HD Box Sky Go on two devices All the channels Sky have to offer (including HD & all Sports) ESPN All the Sky Movie Library on Sky Anytime+ (except SBO) Sky 3D (Including Movies and Sports) Truly unlimited broadband with no traffic management (ideal for gaming) Line rental Free evening and weekend calls. Note will rise by approx £10 in 3 months for ESPN. Actually I'm only paying £75 but we wont go into discounts. ![]() |
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although I admit I don't know how many HD channels VM have now.
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Admittedly you got 3D and more HD.
VM have the upper hand in on demand, even if you do update yours. Purely because we use our own network engine rather than the internet. On the plus side, we are also getting our own version of go called Virgin Anytime (I think). as for truly unlimited, agreed you win, but traffic shaping wont affect any games there's quite a high limit you have to breach before you go over. so for that and an extra box, virgin will have a slight edge. it's quite close really. in short- if you want on demand / better broadband speed / better kit, go for virgin. if you want more HD, better channel selection, want tv on the move and have the option for 3D then go sky. |
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I used to pay £21.50 for VM 10MB BB and I now pay £7.50 for a better speed from Sky, although I must factor in the line rental now.
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Same as me then but our discounts have ran out so we're paying the full amount but i'm more than happy with what we get + we're getting a better on demand service, more HD channels and another 3D channel for SS. Not bad at all. As far as i'm concerned, VM cannot compete with Sky.
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For anyone wanting HD channels Sky is simply the better package, two and a half years on from switching to VM the HD content on offer is still woefully short of that available on Sky the last time I had it,
As far as OD is concerned it may be better on VM but I find it just isn't updated enough, once I've seen what I want to on it it can take months for anything else of interest to me to surface, however now that traffic management reduces your speed to a still functioning level (I.E. for me I stiil get 30mb under stm) VM's broadband is far superior to most other providers except maybe BT Infinity's top package but that's way more expensive. Armed with an HTPC connected to my tv and a now very decent internet connection from VM I don't really miss Sky's superior tv package, or even look at what's on demand anymore, the internet is definately the future. |
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Admittedly you got 3D and more HD.
VM have the upper hand in on demand, even if you do update yours. Purely because we use our own network engine rather than the internet. On the plus side, we are also getting our own version of go called Virgin Anytime (I think). as for truly unlimited, agreed you win, but traffic shaping wont affect any games there's quite a high limit you have to breach before you go over. so for that and an extra box, virgin will have a slight edge. it's quite close really. in short- if you want on demand / better broadband speed / better kit, go for virgin. if you want more HD, better channel selection, want tv on the move and have the option for 3D then go sky. |
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I got stopped the other day by a Sky rep in my shopping centre and told him I was a Virgin man. Ignoring the next few exchanges, he then said I would be better off if I changed to Sky. He said they have more HD channels (true). I said, "Yes but you charge extra to watch them"
I said, "I am paying around £60 pm for my phone, broadband and TV package." He said, "We offer similar packages and have half-price offers at the moment." I said, "I get 60mg broadband. I could have 120 if I wanted. Can you match that speed?". I said, "I have access to around 2000 free music videos. How many do Sky have?" I said, "I can access 3D shows, like Discovery for free. Does Sky do that?" II said, "I don't want Sky Sports but I want ESPN in HD. It's free with Virgin, is it free with Sky? I said, "Virgin have just sent me a new wireless hub because mine developed a fault, even though it was over a year old. Do Sky do that?" I said, "If my Tivo box packed up, Virgin would give me another one. Does Sky do that?" He answered either "No" or "None" to all my questions and finally said, "Stick to Virgin mate" (at least I think that's what he said...) |
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Even with traffic 'shaping' my 100mb becomes 50mb, and it's still unlimited downloads, which is still better than anything than Sky/BT etc. can offer even when I'm traffic managed.
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I got stopped the other day by a Sky rep in my shopping centre and told him I was a Virgin man. Ignoring the next few exchanges, he then said I would be better off if I changed to Sky. He said they have more HD channels (true). I said, "Yes but you charge extra to watch them"
I said, "I am paying around £60 pm for my phone, broadband and TV package." He said, "We offer similar packages and have half-price offers at the moment." I said, "I get 60mg broadband. I could have 120 if I wanted. Can you match that speed?". I said, "I have access to around 2000 free music videos. How many do Sky have?" I said, "I can access 3D shows, like Discovery for free. Does Sky do that?" II said, "I don't want Sky Sports but I want ESPN in HD. It's free with Virgin, is it free with Sky? I said, "Virgin have just sent me a new wireless hub because mine developed a fault, even though it was over a year old. Do Sky do that?" I said, "If my Tivo box packed up, Virgin would give me another one. Does Sky do that?" He answered either "No" or "None" to all my questions and finally said, "Stick to Virgin mate" (at least I think that's what he said...) |
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In the interests of balance I think I should point out that Sky don't always charge for repairs,call outs or new equipment,
when I was a Sky customer my HD box packed up and not only was it replaced free of charge the new box I was given had a larger 500gb hard drive. I didn't ask for this to be free and was pleasanlty surprised when they said it was, I'm guessing it depends what package you're on and I got it because I had the full tv package as well as BB and phone (and also they probably knew from my postcode I could switch to VM). I see little point arguing over who's best, at the end of the day both are companies wanting to take as much money out of you as possible, there are plus points and minus points to both. |
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I used to be a VM customer (years ago but it doesn't seem to have changed much) so I know how crap it is, imo of course. Yeah SKY may be more expensive in the long run but the choice in channels far outweighs the cost. Yeah we pay for having HD channels but £120/£10pm for 60+ channels seems a good deal to me. You have the floor
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You virgin media subscribers are still getting a bum deal when it comes to HD channels. No wonder a lot of their subscribers are switching to SKY+HD. Just a far better package
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Just been onto the Virgin site and to get all the channels I get from Sky on Virgin would cost me £80.25pm including 1TB Tivo box
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Just been onto the Virgin site and to get all the channels I get from Sky on Virgin would cost me £80.25pm including 1TB Tivo box
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D you work in Skys Sales dept by any chance
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No. I'm just one of their many paying customers but I wanted to compare the two for their top tv package and find VM's very expensive. Why do you ask that ? and what is this SKY premium HD ?. Is that the same as our HD pack ?
Got no idea what Sky peremium is as I don't have services from either company, however I am an investor in media stock. |
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I ask because you seem to post on the Cable forum most of the time, and seem to want to diss all that is Virgin? Can't understand why you don't stick with your buddies over on the Sky forum?
Got no idea what Sky peremium is as I don't have services from either company, however I am an investor in media stock. |
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No. I'm just one of their many paying customers but I wanted to compare the two for their top tv package and find VM's very expensive. Why do you ask that ? and what is this SKY premium HD ?. Is that the same as our HD pack ?
I understand with Sky the fee covers a whole range of channels and if you don't pay it you only get BBC, ITV etc. in HD. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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