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Premier Sports doesn't seem to be such a great deal as a subscription channel, it has rugby league, US motor racing, South American football, Irish Gaelic sports and NHL ice hockey and a few other minor sports but certainly not that much. Their lineup is actually worse than Eurosport.
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There's also a duplicate Bio testing and a duplicate BBCi stream for anyone interested.
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Premier Sports doesn't seem to be such a great deal as a subscription channel, it has rugby league, US motor racing, South American football, Irish Gaelic sports and NHL ice hockey and a few other minor sports but certainly not that much. Their lineup is actually worse than Eurosport.
finally they launched the damn channel! £7.50 is not bad at all compared to box nation at £10 and racing uk at £20. it's not to everyones taste but for those who like NHL, nascar, rugby league, speedway, and others, it's a great package. shame it's not part of VIP bundle but hey you can't have it all. I shall be subscribing for sure. |
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There's also a duplicate Bio testing and a duplicate BBCi stream for anyone interested.
The BBCi one though is interesting. Would BBC Three HD and CBBC HD share the same stream? It seems odd as they are closing one of the two streams down at the end of november. Quote:
Even relatively "big" channels with popular mainstream content like Setanta, ESPN and BT in turn realised they can't get the numbers from the Virgin subscriber base, I suspect Premier to be far less successful.
Setanta was more a general business failure, they tried something new and it worked in the short term, but not financially in the long term. BT we are yet to see how well it does, but I guess we can't really judge how successful it is cause most of the 'subscribers' have the XL pack. |
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Im guessing the Bio duplicate is a test for Lifestyle, although I would of thought that would just take over the existing stream, so maybe Lifetime +1 or even Lifetime HD
The BBCi one though is interesting. Would BBC Three HD and CBBC HD share the same stream? It seems odd as they are closing one of the two streams down at the end of november. I think for Setanta and ESPN it was a mix of things. ESPN were out-bidded by BT for Premier League rights and it kinda left them up **** creek without a paddle as they didn't have much rights which would draw the money in. Setanta was more a general business failure, they tried something new and it worked in the short term, but not financially in the long term. BT we are yet to see how well it does, but I guess we can't really judge how successful it is cause most of the 'subscribers' have the XL pack.
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Im guessing the Bio duplicate is a test for Lifestyle, although I would of thought that would just take over the existing stream, so maybe Lifetime +1 or even Lifetime HD
The BBCi one though is interesting. Would BBC Three HD and CBBC HD share the same stream? It seems odd as they are closing one of the two streams down at the end of november. Quote:
I think for Setanta and ESPN it was a mix of things. ESPN were out-bidded by BT for Premier League rights and it kinda left them up **** creek without a paddle as they didn't have much rights which would draw the money in. I not really commenting on the failure of the pre-BT channels just pointing out that none see value in being standalone on Virgin to the point a relatively low per subscriber offer moves them into wholesale deals.
Setanta was more a general business failure, they tried something new and it worked in the short term, but not financially in the long term. BT we are yet to see how well it does, but I guess we can't really judge how successful it is cause most of the 'subscribers' have the XL pack. |
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Makes sense - sounds like a case of get the channel in place for the Rugby League World Cup then worry about pricing afterwards. I've read elsewhere that £8pm is a likely price point for XL customers and £10pm for all others. I suspect until the viewing figures etc are reviewed a decision won't have been made.
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Virgin have tested duplicates before moving channels to new frequencies. With more frequencies going to 256QAM they may be experimenting with bitrates. Overall, if its a movement I'd guess it's planning for more HD channels which get grouped together on the same frequency for efficiency.
I not really commenting on the failure of the pre-BT channels just pointing out that none see value in being standalone on Virgin to the point a relatively low per subscriber offer moves them into wholesale deals. VM made an improved offer, which enabled PS to feel confident enough to believe that joining the platform would be a financial success. The performance of the channel over the coming months will be reviewed by both parties, before a long term pricing strategy is adopted. |
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Are you proposing they bring back Cable Guide? Ah the memories of that.
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My TiVo currently has a message about the BT Sport freeview, and Tiddlers TV.
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Thanks, but as I said, what about their viewers who - for example - don't have internet, or don't know about that thread? My point was that VM don't seem to advertise these channel launches at all properly.
WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?! |
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I don't even think premier sports is aware there on Virgin media
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from there website
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it's not to everyones taste but for those who like NHL, nascar, rugby league, speedway, and others, it's a great package.
It'll be getting hidden from view when i get the tivo update. |
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What about the Children Carl?!
WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?! |
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No real reason to mock. Virgin have the capability of pop-up messages, emails and mailshots yet significant launches, like ITV 2 3 4 HD, go unmentioned.
The info is made available via a range of mediums. I suspect their customer feedback indicates this is sufficient. |
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I think many people, myself included would get pretty narked at being harassed about this kind of thing.
The info is made available via a range of mediums. I suspect their customer feedback indicates this is sufficient. Equally a strapline on the bottom of their ads in newspapers wouldn't offend anyone. I text people I knew when BT launched because of the football that weekend, and do doubt some of those I text would have known it was in XL that weekend had I not. |
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Considering how rare channels launch, especially when they are grouped, you can probably average less than one "launch" event per month on the DTV platform pop up messages would hardly be intrusive.
Equally a strapline on the bottom of their ads in newspapers wouldn't offend anyone. I text people I knew when BT launched because of the football that weekend, and do doubt some of those I text would have known it was in XL that weekend had I not. "Jim - have a look at channel x on your tivo, be able to watch that game today afterall" and so on... |
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I take your point and think your latter comment sums it up - people are the best source of info -
"Jim - have a look at channel x on your tivo, be able to watch that game today afterall" and so on... |
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No real reason to mock.
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The info is made available via a range of mediums.
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I did that for BT Sport. I wouldn't do it for More4 HD.
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Well they did with BT but I take your point with other channels. TiVo does have a messages feature they should use more.
Are you proposing they bring back Cable Guide? Ah the memories of that. ![]() I think they should resurrect the Cable Guide or just make a smaller one P.S. They did make a Virgin magazine recently but that too stopped a while back It is time they brought out a third version, I think that people will find it quite useful |
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Talking about new channels, any idea that Virgin/Liberty Global will add the Fox News channel to their new channels line up in the UK or if it is at all likely?
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Talking about new channels, any idea that Virgin/Liberty Global will add the Fox News channel to their new channels line up in the UK or if it is at all likely?
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I can honestly say that I actively dislike each of those sports.
It'll be getting hidden from view when i get the tivo update. |
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No real reason to mock. Virgin have the capability of pop-up messages, emails and mailshots yet significant launches, like ITV 2 3 4 HD, go unmentioned.
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According to the adverts for it Lifetime will be on Channel 242
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I can honestly say that I actively dislike each of those sports.
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