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Fox+ launching tomorrow on channel 199 , Fox and Nat Geo moving to the L pack tomorrow.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1609700/page/3 |
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No real reason to mock. Virgin have the capability of pop-up messages, emails and mailshots yet significant launches, like ITV 2 3 4 HD, go unmentioned.
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FOX+ now on ch199
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Fox+ launching tomorrow on channel 199 , Fox and Nat Geo moving to the L pack tomorrow.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1609700/page/3 They focus on the essential collection and the premiere collection, but it is crazy you have to pay for BT sports and a second TV box to get the full collection of TV channels. |
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They don't seem to promote the L pack much. What is in L and what is in XL often seems totally random to me.
They focus on the essential collection and the premiere collection, but it is crazy you have to pay for BT sports and a second TV box to get the full collection of TV channels. |
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You can get the XL pack on its own, you don't have to have a collection.
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You can get the XL pack on its own, you don't have to have a collection.
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True, but you would still, in effect, be paying for BT sport even if you don't want it
They did not put up the price when they added BT sport |
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They don't seem to promote the L pack much. What is in L and what is in XL often seems totally random to me.
They focus on the essential collection and the premiere collection, but it is crazy you have to pay for BT sports and a second TV box to get the full collection of TV channels. Bar annual increases the XL pack has not gone up in price since the days when HD amounted to just BBC HD. Which is why its fair to say the HD is free. Do Sky still block Yesterday and other Freeview channels if you don't pay for the relevant package? Does Sky+ automatically record a repeat if there is a clash . From what I recall of my old Sky+ the only alert of a clash was when you see "failed" on the planner |
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You don't need to pay for BT Sports as its in XL which you can have on its own on a single box.
Bar annual increases the XL pack has not gone up in price since the days when HD amounted to just BBC HD. Which is why its fair to say the HD is free. Do Sky still block Yesterday and other Freeview channels if you don't pay for the relevant package? Does Sky+ automatically record a repeat if there is a clash . From what I recall of my old Sky+ the only alert of a clash was when you see "failed" on the planner Totally agree that Sky shouldn't charge for the channels that you mention but I would counter your other (fair) comments with, is the Virgin EPG dynamic yet? can it do padding? Is Tivo as simple to use as Sky + for an older person? I am youngish but it looks more complicated to me. PJ |
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is the Virgin EPG dynamic yet? can it do padding? Is Tivo as simple to use as Sky + for an older person? I am youngish but it looks more complicated to me
PJ It does have padding. Probably not as simple to use as a Sky box, I'm guessing, but Tivo has a lot more functionality, so to be expected to some extent. However, basic functionality: setting up recordings or series links and viewing them is very simple to do; as basic as any other PVR. What do you call old?
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I suppose it depends on how technically competent the "old" person is. My dad has no problem working most technology; day-to-day at least. I'm still the 'tech. support' for some PC-related stuff.
OTOH my mum isn't very good at all and has to be repeatedly told even the basics. However, interestingly and more relevant to this thread, my mum was actually able to use the original Tivo quite well without much help at all ![]() They're both >70. |
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Totally agree that Sky shouldn't charge for the channels that you mention but I would counter your other (fair) comments with, is the Virgin EPG dynamic yet? can it do padding? Is Tivo as simple to use as Sky + for an older person? I am youngish but it looks more complicated to me. PJ Not sure what you mean by padding? When you set a series link it adds padding either side . If you want to change the padding you can do it manually for each recording you want to change. I rarely bother but with ITV's post News At Ten programmes usually running late I changed the padding from the 4 minutes to 10 minutes . I had Sky+ for 7 or 8 years - had V+ at the same time for a while but Tivo is far better. My son has Sky+ with his setup so I do compare when they change things. Being able to record 3 things at once is quite important and it comes into play more often than you would expect at peaktimes specially when padding overlaps are taken into account. There are a couple of things about Tivo I would miss badly if I went back to Sky. The way it handles clashes for one. For example- if you have several series links in operation there may come a time when they clash . If that happens with Sky+ you'll only find out when the recording fails. With Tivo your planner will show an alert if any recording is going to be missed or cut. But the best bit is that if there is a clash and a programme is missed Tivo will automatically record a repeat if there is one. Last week I went to watch 999 Whats Your Emergency to find that my daughter had refused to let the box change channel which was necessary as it was recording 3 things . So I did a search and looked for upcoming repeats on 4Seven or More4 only to find there was a repeat on C4 later in the week and the box had already set that screening to record. The Wishlist is not essential but it can be useful if you're waiting for something to be shown again so you just add it to the wishlist and it will record it whenever its on on any channel. You can't beat Sky+ for simplicity but I prefer Tivo as it does have a few extra bits I like. I do find the current Sky EPG to be very dull in comparison with Tivo and even with the old original Sky Guide from the early days |
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I suppose it depends on how technically competent the "old" person is. My dad has no problem working most technology; day-to-day at least. I'm still the 'tech. support' for some PC-related stuff.
OTOH my mum isn't very good at all and has to be repeatedly told even the basics. However, interestingly and more relevant to this thread, my mum was actually able to use the original Tivo quite well without much help at all ![]() They're both >70. Only one tuner for starters which was hopeless as when PVR's first came along the number one requirement for satellite and cable viewers was being able to record once channel while watching another. With Tivo you couldn't even do that and you needed a sat or cable box in addition to Tivo to record from anything except freeview |
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Yes but the original Tivo was very limited .
Only one tuner for starters which was hopeless as when PVR's first came along the number one requirement for satellite and cable viewers was being able to record once channel while watching another. With Tivo you couldn't even do that and you needed a sat or cable box in addition to Tivo to record from anything except freeview I have both Sky and VM for me Sky works out cheaper for tv but combining VMs broadband and Skys tv works out cheaper than taking all services from one provider. That's probably only due to my 12 month half price offer on Sky though. |
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No it's your attempt at trying to erupt the thread into a argument again like you have done many times. I thought we was all over that.
Anyway back on topic LifetimeHD may also be on VM too. Quote:
True, but you would still, in effect, be paying for BT sport even if you don't want it
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I'm not the one personalising my posts with off topic comments against a forum member. I do however agree best to move on before more posts get deleted.
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HD May cost £5 more for the non premium channels and nothing on Virgin but it still works out cheaper for me on SKy overall. Also for my £5 a get a lot more channels for that and I don't just mean Sky Atlantic (for me a deal breaker in itself) but a few other key channels VIrgin don't
Totally agree that Sky shouldn't charge for the channels that you mention but I would counter your other (fair) comments with, is the Virgin EPG dynamic yet? can it do padding? Is Tivo as simple to use as Sky + for an older person? I am youngish but it looks more complicated to me. PJ This will mean even more permutations for those trying to work out the best deal for them! |
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Well the price hasn't gone up so you are not paying for it.
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*facepalm*
If you have been paying close attention to when the moderators have got involved and the posts deleted it has always been when posts have been personalised against me. Multiple uses of the term you object to remain in place despite moderator activity.
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That's a very weak argument. While the cost hasn't been passed on observably it is a certainty Virgin aren't taking the hit on their profit lines.
If you have been paying close attention to when the moderators have got involved and the posts deleted it has always been when posts have been personalised against me. Multiple uses of the term you object to remain in place despite moderator activity. Also I don't think it's when posts are personalised, I think it's more when you go on rants about CF and Media Boy. If you want to do that, new thread, title it "I hate Cable Forum" and then anything you put will be on topic. |
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Unfortunately, FX+1 and more4+1 will not be amongst the October additions. As Martine said, the only timeshift channel will be Channel 5+1.
About current channels Does anyone know why the True Entertainment channel has left the Size M+ TV pack and is only available with the Size L or XL pack only now? Thanks |
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Virgin used to pay ESPN £3 per customer per month, they now pay BT near enough the same so really they haven't taken much onto their profit margin. I think the custom they will of gained will counteract the difference per month.
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Discussed in detail in the thread on the Cable section of DS - but for the record on here VM is paying £3.50 per month per VM XL customer compared to the £1.50 per month it was paying for ESPN.
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That's a very weak argument. While the cost hasn't been passed on observably it is a certainty Virgin aren't taking the hit on their profit lines.
They are not necessarily taking a hit on their profits. Perhaps they are making some cost savings and using that, or economies of scale with Liberty taking over. It doesn't matter really, we are getting more for the same. Rejoice! |
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About current channels
Does anyone know why the True Entertainment channel has left the Size M+ TV pack and is only available with the Size L or XL pack only now? Thanks |
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Yes but the original Tivo was very limited.
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Only one tuner for starters which was hopeless as when PVR's first came along the number one requirement for satellite and cable viewers was being able to record once channel while watching another.
And yet I managed perfectly well with it for ten year; as did my parents (though possible for not quite that long. (I forget now!)Though yes, I suppose a larger family may have had problems with it. Quote:
That's a very weak argument. While the cost hasn't been passed on observably it is a certainty Virgin aren't taking the hit on their profit lines.
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We understand the point that you are making, Sirius, but if we get something extra and we don't see a price increase to cover it, as far as we are concerned, it's free.
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TBF Tivo has come on leaps and bounds over the last year or so and it's going to get even better with the new update that's being rolled out.
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It was basically the same; certainly as far as programming/using it is concerned; which is what we're talking about here.
And yet I managed perfectly well with it for ten year; as did my parents Sky stopped offering it as soon as Sky+ became available but there really was no comparison. Sky+ enabled to record/watch all with one box. Tivo couldn't even do that basic feature and if you weren't happy with Freeview you needed to add on a box for it to record from and while it was recording from that box you couldn't even watch an alternate sat/cable channel. It really was rubbish |
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