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Old 04-11-2013, 22:27
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I'm referring to Tivo Version 1 . The joke product that tried to compete with Sky+ over 10 years ago - not the current on

That version was the biggest pile of crap i'd ever seen , i do agree with you.
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Old 04-11-2013, 23:43
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Virgin used to pay ESPN £3 per customer per month, they now pay BT near enough the same so really they haven't taken much onto their profit margin. I think the custom they will of gained will counteract the difference per month.

Also I don't think it's when posts are personalised, I think it's more when you go on rants about CF and Media Boy. If you want to do that, new thread, title it "I hate Cable Forum" and then anything you put will be on topic.
It appears that there are others who feel the same about that particular forum:

http://www.cableforum.eu/index.php/topic,19.0.html

It's always been in the L pack for aslong as i can remember. You're not missing much anyway it's changed to truexmas now.
True Movies has become True Xmas, on my box True Entertainment remains
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:30
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It appears that there are others who feel the same about that particular forum:

http://www.cableforum.eu/index.php/topic,19.0.html



True Movies has become True Xmas, on my box True Entertainment remains
Was true movies i meant mate silly me i misread Joshuas post
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Old 05-11-2013, 18:38
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Was true movies i meant mate silly me i misread Joshuas post
That's that sorted then
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Old 05-11-2013, 19:42
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Asian Channel Xclusive

News 18 set to launch on Virgin Media

A Virgin Insider has confirmed to me that News 18 is now set to launch on Virgin Media within the next two weeks.

No channel number was given.
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Old 05-11-2013, 21:16
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What the latest? I had an unwelcome day off.
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Old 05-11-2013, 21:23
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Asian Channel Xclusive

News 18 set to launch on Virgin Media

A Virgin Insider has confirmed to me that News 18 is now set to launch on Virgin Media within the next two weeks.

No channel number was given.
This is so 'xclusive' that someone else posted it over on Cable Forum yesterday.
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Old 05-11-2013, 21:34
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What the latest? I had an unwelcome day off.
Mostly just the update being rolled out this week. All areas should get it at somepoint this week.
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Old 05-11-2013, 22:01
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That version was the biggest pile of crap i'd ever seen , i do agree with you.
Never fear - Carl Waring will be posting soon to tell us how great it was and explain how it became an ebay exclusive for reasons other than being a joke compared to Sky+
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Old 05-11-2013, 22:44
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Sky stopped offering it as soon as Sky+ became available but there really was no comparison.
Indeed. Sky completely re-negged on their deal with Tivo to market the S1 Tivo in the UK; and that is the main reason it failed to take off.

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...uk-flop-674341

Sky+ enabled to record/watch all with one box.
As did Tivo a couple of years before.

Tivo couldn't even do that basic feature...
Record a channel whilst watching a recording? Yes it did.

..and if you weren't happy with Freeview you needed to add on a box for it to record from...
Or, to look at it in a better way, the original Tivo was platform-independant. (ie It worked with analogue, DTT, Sky and cable.)

.. and while it was recording from that box you couldn't even watch an alternate sat/cable channel.
Why would you want to though? The idea was that you got a DVR to be able to skip the ads so why the heck would you want a channel live?

It really was rubbish
And yes thousands of us managed with one for over ten years.

Never fear - Carl Waring will be posting soon to tell us how great it was...
I did miss the original post but you are right; it was brilliant. My brother still has his. He doesn't watch much TV though

...and explain how it became an ebay exclusive for reasons other than being a joke compared to Sky+
Well for a start it worked with platforms other than Sky; which makes it twice as good to start with!! And many others are still using theirs thanks to the AltEPG system.
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Old 06-11-2013, 00:07
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That version was the biggest pile of crap i'd ever seen , i do agree with you.
Never fear - Carl Waring will be posting soon to tell us how great it was and explain how it became an ebay exclusive for reasons other than being a joke compared to Sky+
Indeed. Sky completely re-negged on their deal with Tivo to market the S1 Tivo in the UK; and that is the main reason it failed to take off.

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...uk-flop-674341


As did Tivo a couple of years before.


Record a channel whilst watching a recording? Yes it did.


Or, to look at it in a better way, the original Tivo was platform-independant. (ie It worked with analogue, DTT, Sky and cable.)


Why would you want to though? The idea was that you got a DVR to be able to skip the ads so why the heck would you want a channel live?


And yes thousands of us managed with one for over ten years.


I did miss the original post but you are right; it was brilliant. My brother still has his. He doesn't watch much TV though


Well for a start it worked with platforms other than Sky; which makes it twice as good to start with!! And many others are still using theirs thanks to the AltEPG system.
I won't bother arguing about most of your comments because Tivo Version 1 failed - and it failed because it was crap. Why would Sky continue to flog Tivo to its subscribers when Sky+ was available and superior in every way.
The fact you need to split hairs shows what a primitive pile of junk it was.
Yes - you could record somethng and watch a recording at the same time - hardly hi tech for anything except Tivo V1.
But you know full well that what I was referring to was its inability to record one channel while watching another live thus avoiding clashes which was the number one requirement of PVR's at the time .

It recorded analogue output not the raw digital stream.
No Dolby 5.1
Only one tuner
Additional boxes required for anything except Freeview.

I know you got on with it . You're clearly easily pleased but some people who's requirements were a bit more sophisticated needed a PVR to do one basic thing which was to get round clashes .
Exactly what did you do if there were 2 programmes on at the same time you wanted to record .
In fact Tivo's limitations meant that if you insisted on not watching anything live that you miss a lot of programmes.
And you can't use the backup of +1 channels and numerous repeats because they didn't exist at the time
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:14
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People who's requirements were a bit more sophisticated needed a PVR to do one basic thing which was to get round clashes .
Out of interest, I didn't realise a Sky+ did anything to resolve a scheduled recording clash. Having two tuners is hardly sophisticated, agreed it would seem to be more sophisticated than the TiVo S1 but that one tuner had the ability to search for a repeat and reschedule. AFAIK the Sky+ would just fail to record, you,d have to hunt for a repeat.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:12
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Thought this was about New Channels and not TiVo 1?
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Old 06-11-2013, 13:24
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No new channels set to launch this week.

But I do know that News 18 is set to launch sometime next week (November 11th - November 15th.)
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Old 06-11-2013, 13:30
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No new channels set to launch this week.

But I do know that News 18 is set to launch sometime next week (November 11th - November 15th.)
Another copy and paste.

To add just seen CBS Drama may become CBS Xmas.
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Old 06-11-2013, 13:44
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Asian Channel XCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to add News 18 - should launch on November 14th.

I can now reveal that News 18 should launch on November 14 Virgin Media. Still no confirmed channel number.

Asian Channel Thinks: News 18 will be on Virgin Channel 626 or 833.

(c) 2013 Asian Channel
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Old 06-11-2013, 14:35
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Asian Channel XCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to add News 18 - should launch on November 14th.

I can now reveal that News 18 should launch on November 14 Virgin Media. Still no confirmed channel number.

Asian Channel Thinks: News 18 will be on Virgin Channel 626 or 833.

(c) 2013 Asian Channel
You need to look at the word Exclusive. You have simply copied and pasted Media Boy and changed the names. Whats worrying is that it took you 8 minutes to do it.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post2617.html
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Old 06-11-2013, 17:17
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In fairness he isn't using the word "exclusive", much like ho the word "meeja" isn't "media".
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Old 06-11-2013, 18:08
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Asian Channel XCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to add News 18 - should launch on November 14th.

I can now reveal that News 18 should launch on November 14 Virgin Media. Still no confirmed channel number.

Asian Channel Thinks: News 18 will be on Virgin Channel 626 or 833.

(c) 2013 Asian Channel

Haha! Nice work.
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Old 06-11-2013, 19:24
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Asian Channel XCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to add News 18 - should launch on November 14th.

I can now reveal that News 18 should launch on November 14 Virgin Media. Still no confirmed channel number.

Asian Channel Thinks: News 18 will be on Virgin Channel 626 or 833.

(c) 2013 Asian Channel
What are you doing? Showing off your 'copy and paste' skills? You are just repeating what Media Boy has been posting. Why, particularly after having been so nasty to him on the 'other' forum?
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Old 06-11-2013, 19:26
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In fairness he isn't using the word "exclusive", much like ho the word "meeja" isn't "media".
Well, Ashun Chanel is just a copy cat.
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Old 06-11-2013, 19:33
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Asian Channel XCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to add News 18 - should launch on November 14th.

I can now reveal that News 18 should launch on November 14 Virgin Media. Still no confirmed channel number.

Asian Channel Thinks: News 18 will be on Virgin Channel 626 or 833.

(c) 2013 Asian Channel
Is this a repost, seem to have seen it before
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Old 06-11-2013, 19:34
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Thanks for the info Media Boy
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Old 06-11-2013, 19:59
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I won't bother arguing about most of your comments because Tivo Version 1 failed - and it failed because it was crap. Why would Sky continue to flog Tivo to its subscribers when Sky+ was available and superior in every way.
I don't know how good or bad Tivo Version 1 was but I guess the design was to allow you to plug your original cable/satellite box into it and let it control the recordings kind of like a VCR but with an EPG additional search/suggestion features.

Having a look around the internet it appears that Tivo was one the first HDD based PVRs on the market and this precedes Sky+ by nearly three years. In this time period I'm sure Sky would have looked at what Tivo did and how they improve on it. One of the obvious thing was to put everything in one box and that appealed to consumers, That combined with the marketing/PR powerhouse that is Sky it gained market share very quickly.
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Old 06-11-2013, 21:13
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Out of interest, I didn't realise a Sky+ did anything to resolve a scheduled recording clash. Having two tuners is hardly sophisticated, agreed it would seem to be more sophisticated than the TiVo S1 but that one tuner had the ability to search for a repeat and reschedule. AFAIK the Sky+ would just fail to record, you,d have to hunt for a repeat.
When Sky+ came out you could only record one thing at a time for a while.
2 recordings came a bit later but in both cases , just as it does today Sky+ does not cope with recording clashes aswell as Tivo but the fact was unimportant in 2001 because although Tivo could do it - the single tuner meant that even with the handicap Sky+ was still ahead most of the time.

The current Tivo beats Sky+ in my opinion as it combines the necessary PVR features that Version 1 lacked with Tivos clever software.
Searching for repeats in the same week ( which were rare back then with few +1 and far fewer channels) and the Wishlist were nice but didn't make up for the lack of 2 tuners or dual record .
That Sky+ did it all in a single box also improved its appeal
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