But their post is linked too, the reason they don't state names on other forums is because someone argued with them about the use of their name on another forum.

I see. That'll be why he's called 'Meeja Boy' over here then?

No, that's just children playing.

Well unless they trademark their name i'll quote people where i like as long as it isn't libelous, insulting or defamatory.

No, that's just to mock his overinflated sense of self importance.

Media Boy does seem to take himself rather seriously. Also, he makes terrible grammatical errors. But other than that, the world of upcoming channel speculation for Virgin Media would be poorer without him.

The answer to your question was provided by myself a few posts up prior to your posting!


It isn't possible to trademark an actual name, so they won't be able to

Channel 5+24 starts at the beginning of next month.

Live North Hampshire and have just spotted that BBC1 South is on Channel 858 now. Apologies if someone has posted this on another thread but I couldn't see it.

What an absolute waste of time and energy. As pointless as 4Seven and all the other +1's.

Virtually everyone has a PVR and On Demand these days.

Ofcom should ban this filler nonsense.

Care to prove that with credible figures, because I don't think "virtually everyone" has either at all. A lot? Certainly. Virtually all? No. For a start, only around half of VM's TV customers have a Tivo. Don't know how many have a V+ but I'll bet it's not the other 50%

Every Virgin Media TV Customer has Channel 5 On Demand though regardless of what box you have...

are you sure??
in the past tried to watch upcoming episodes via 5 On Demand, could never find it

I find the +1's handy, and I am sure I am not alone.

I have no intention of sitting down planning an entire weeks TV around the TV guide and my trusty Tivo. I prefer to channel hop sometimes, and often find programs that I find interesting part way through. I can then watch the entire program on a +1

However, I agree that +24 is probably pushing it a bit !

I didn't mention individual programmes, but the actual Demand5 service is available to every Virgin Media customer.

+1s can be handy for live viewing but with the large capacity recording devices such as Tivo, they're becoming less relevant. Expanded TV on demand services will probably kill +1s eventually as they won't be needed at all.

I get a little annoyed when the likes of Virgin and Sky mention '8 new channels' when six of them are +1s as it basically means '2 new channels with 6 repeats of what you didn't watch an hour ago' and many of them are really irrelevant to be honest.

Sometimes 'live' channels are being taken off to make space for +1s of bigger channels and that can be a real pain. +1s are often just a cheap excuse to show repeats and not new programming.

I'm actually surprised that the number of channels broadcasting is still increasing and that lesser channels belonging to bigger networks aren't being absorbed into other channels or becoming on demand portals instead.

Look at the amount of Discovery channels for example. I think it would make far more sense to have less linear channels and a higher level of on demand content. That way the bigger shows have clear showing times while the lesser shows are available whenever viewers want them.

well put, as discovery isnt the same as it once was, and to certain extent, Nat Geo

And what about Freeview or Freesat owners?

I can't actually find any figures. Does anyone know PVR penetration in the UK?

In total it's 67% http://digital-stats.blogspot.co.uk/...ve-dvrpvr.html

Although we have on demand and a PVR that can record three shows at the same time, I still find I have unresolvable clashes sometimes, particularly around 9 - 11pm, and so I have to work out how to record all of those programmes at different times. The worst case was where I had six programmes all on at the same time at 9pm and three already set for 10pm.

So I do welcome having plenty of timeshift channels, they are very handy.

If we get to a stage where all programmes shown get put on the on demand system for about 12 months, then I will agree we don't need timeshift channels. I would mention that my TIVO is currently 75% full, but sometimes it goes up to 95%. That's because I record programmes just for me (science and other nerdy stuff), my wife (lifestyle), both of us (dramas and talk shows) and the grandkids (comedy and kids stuff). We also never watch anything live, everything, including the news is viewed from the recordings or on demand.

I don't understand the continual complaints about the +1 channels - nobody has to watch them if they don't want to and they are not preventing other channels from being launched (which I think remains a common misconception).

I do agree that in the longer term, linear TV channels will reduce; the only question is to what level? While people still cling to the old ways of watching TV and sit through all those ads, it will continue to pay the broadcasters to show them.

Personally, the future I see is of all our content being provided on demand or streamed.

Thanks for that. So it is a majority, but not as much of one as the OP thought.


Slightly OT but your Tivo should work it all out for you, assuming the Series Links are in the right order and the meta-data is correct; which it usually is in prime-time.

Not much prospect of that. It looked like it might happen in the late noughties but social networking, Digital Spy and other forums have put an end to that. Live TV is still king, and looks like it always will be.

Still yet no True Movies 2 or true drama on VM any ideas what channels are coming also no clubland and they all free to air too. Would love to see all true channels on VM

This is true, seems people enjoy to tweet more than watch the damn programme now. It's actually a good argument for +1s so all the people who were on their phones and tablets can watch all the bits they missed the first time round.

With the intensive recording that I do, this doesn't always work, which is my point. It is also annoying that you cannot always rely on the TIVO to find another programme.