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Old 04-09-2012, 02:20
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Why not? Surely if she was really signed to RCA US there would have been some sort of an official announcement already. What's the hold up

Sounds like another lie, time will tell.
its funny you should say that, because i was just wondering that. there is another artist that doesn't have a full profile on that site, `gabi wilson` it just says `coming soon`. so why is alexandra not on there? also, the last i heard from her fans was that she was signed to erick morillo`s label in the us.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:23
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I doubt it was her decision, it seems as if she was dropped from that tour. Her fans are claiming that she "dopped out" to work on her career but instead she is busy partying, something doesn't add up
its a shame, if true, as i do think it would have helped. little mix is hardly going to appeal to some of jls`s fans, but the exposure will no doubt help.
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:20
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Alexandra can't seem to do anything right these days. Everyone is on her back. Poor girl.
People need to give her a break ffs.
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:52
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If any other artist pulled out because of poor quality sound equipment many of you would be ripping them apart. Double standard? And if you look at the first comment on that article
I was tech in the Pop tent and she had all her own kit and a lovely engineer ready and waiting to go. He was very happy with the audio set up. So I know it was not that side of the proceedings.....
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:30
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She should have just got on with it. She's in an incredibly privileged position, to be working in an industry she (presumably) loves and one that many people would love to be in themselves.

Just get a microphone & some speakers and do your job, like those of us in the real world have to..
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:38
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Surely though with ANY performance that is going to take place, there are sound checks before hand? Would you really leave it until last minute to check? If she was unhappy wouldn't she have been more wise to say something sooner rather than not perform? I just think that even with gigs that aren't of arena quality or higher, when its for charity or an event, you just go with it and make the best of it. All the others performed. If she has such a great voice, I am sure she could have carried the performance well
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:02
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Just get a microphone & some speakers and do your job, like those of us in the real world have to..
That would be all well and good if Alex was just a mime artist like certain other popstars but the right equipment is crucial not only for the performance but the health and safety of her voice. But of course she can't do anything right and she's just being a diva.

If someone prevented you from doing your 'job' in the 'real world' I'm pretty certain you would expect that all the things you needed to complete your job were there and if not you would complain.

Singers do this ALL the time....Nicki recently just cancelled V festival which her fans had paid for and were expecting to see her, but you don't see a 5 page thread calling her a diva and just generally attacking her around here do you? There's just a nasty attitude towards Alex around here and a horrible double standard, and quite frankly some people should be ashamed...she's in a terrible state at the moment and at a recent fan dinner everyone who aattended said she burst out crying for 10 minutes because of all this.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:16
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But Alex hasn't specifically stated that it was the sound/PA system that wasn't up to scratch. Her tweet is very ambiguous and could indeed also encompass what the alleged Pride insider is claiming. Surely she needs to put out a far less ambiguous statement so the claims can be shot down in flames if not true?
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:42
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That would be all well and good if Alex was just a mime artist like certain other popstars but the right equipment is crucial not only for the performance but the health and safety of her voice. But of course she can't do anything right and she's just being a diva.

If someone prevented you from doing your 'job' in the 'real world' I'm pretty certain you would expect that all the things you needed to complete your job were there and if not you would complain.

Singers do this ALL the time....Nicki recently just cancelled V festival which her fans had paid for and were expecting to see her, but you don't see a 5 page thread calling her a diva and just generally attacking her around here do you? There's just a nasty attitude towards Alex around here and a horrible double standard, and quite frankly some people should be ashamed...she's in a terrible state at the moment and at a recent fan dinner everyone who aattended said she burst out crying for 10 minutes because of all this.
Nicki cancelled because of vocal problems, not because of "oh something was wrong technically" which only adds to the belief that she's arrogant and has a lack of perspective.

I also want to say that your attempts to create a moral panic over all of this is laughable.. and the fact that you keep ignoring posts by people who state that this was avoidable says it all. If anything she's in a better position not being a "mine artist" - you're not seriously suggesting that performing without top of the range equipment would cause serious damage to her voice?
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:06
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Nicki cancelled because of vocal problems, not because of "oh something was wrong technically" which only adds to the belief that she's arrogant and has a lack of perspective.

I also want to say that your attempts to create a moral panic over all of this is laughable.. and the fact that you keep ignoring posts by people who state that this was avoidable says it all. If anything she's in a better position not being a "mine artist" - you're not seriously suggesting that performing without top of the range equipment would cause serious damage to her voice?
This just shows how little grasp you seem to have of the argument you are so vehemently defending. She could cause permanent damage to her vocal chords due to staging issues, a risk far too huge for her to take. I'm not ignoring anything. Personally I don't blame her for cancelling this event, either way people were going to be disappointed, and it's better that she just didn't perform at all rather than give people a rubbish show, and given that people seem so out to get her, if she did 'put up with it' and put on the show and it was bad because of the poor equipment, no doubt people here would still slam her.

At least this way she has protected her voice and acted cautiously. She has apologised to all her fans, so I just can't see what the big deal is, especially to you and others who seem to hate her so much. She cancelled an event. Get over it.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:16
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But I ask again - where has Alex stated that the reason she didn't perform was down to the sound/PA system?
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:22
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This just shows how little grasp you seem to have of the argument you are so vehemently defending. She could cause permanent damage to her vocal chords due to staging issues, a risk far too huge for her to take. I'm not ignoring anything. Personally I don't blame her for cancelling this event, either way people were going to be disappointed, and it's better that she just didn't perform at all rather than give people a rubbish show, and given that people seem so out to get her, if she did 'put up with it' and put on the show and it was bad because of the poor equipment, no doubt people here would still slam her.

At least this way she has protected her voice and acted cautiously. She has apologised to all her fans, so I just can't see what the big deal is, especially to you and others who seem to hate her so much. She cancelled an event. Get over it.
Surely if you sing through a dodgy sound system it produces dodgy sound. It doesn't reach into your mouth and give your larynx a wedgie.
It would be the same as playing a cd on a crappy stereo. It'll sound crappy but the CD will be fine.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:30
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Surely if you sing through a dodgy sound system it produces dodgy sound. It doesn't reach into your mouth and give your larynx a wedgie.
It would be the same as playing a cd on a crappy stereo. It'll sound crappy but the CD will be fine.
No point discussing this with Zack he has his fan blinkered glasses on and nothing we post will change his mind.

Shame she doesn't have more fans ike him
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:33
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Surely if you sing through a dodgy sound system it produces dodgy sound. It doesn't reach into your mouth and give your larynx a wedgie.
It would be the same as playing a cd on a crappy stereo. It'll sound crappy but the CD will be fine.
Stop trying to bring common sense into the argument.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:38
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Surely if you sing through a dodgy sound system it produces dodgy sound. It doesn't reach into your mouth and give your larynx a wedgie.
It would be the same as playing a cd on a crappy stereo. It'll sound crappy but the CD will be fine.
If you can't hear yourself properly then there is a large risk of misusing your voice and potentially damaging it, especially with some of the songs Alex sings. It's not just about singing into the sound system. She needs to be able to know what her voice is doing too, and if the system was rubbish then that was obviously not possible for her.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:44
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If you can't hear yourself properly then there is a large risk of misusing your voice and potentially damaging it, especially with some of the songs Alex sings. It's not just about singing into the sound system. She needs to be able to know what her voice is doing too, and if the system was rubbish then that was obviously not possible for her.
You realise people were able to sing perfectly fine for centuries without being able to hear themselves don't you? Those people died of old age not through lack of hearing themselves.
I'll go one better. Don't acts take their own sound equipment on tour with them? And their own sound guys and road crew?
Every gig I've ever been to, either festival, concert venue, local band in the pub, has their own gear such as amps, instruments mics etc.
They don't just appear on their own with nowt but the shirt on their back and hope for the best.
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:54
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You realise people were able to sing perfectly fine for centuries without being able to hear themselves don't you? Those people died of old age not through lack of hearing themselves.
I'll go one better. Don't acts take their own sound equipment on tour with them? And their own sound guys and road crew?
Every gig I've ever been to, either festival, concert venue, local band in the pub, has their own gear such as amps, instruments mics etc.
They don't just appear on their own with nowt but the shirt on their back and hope for the best.
The event will provide the sound facilities and Alex will most likely come with her own microphone and earpiece and that's probaly it.

If the sound is poor from the equipment that Brighton provided then it'll make all her equipment also sound bad quality because it's going through them.

She wasn't the only act there so they haven't got time to change the sound facility for every act lol
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:56
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You realise people were able to sing perfectly fine for centuries without being able to hear themselves don't you? Those people died of old age not through lack of hearing themselves.
I'll go one better. Don't acts take their own sound equipment on tour with them? And their own sound guys and road crew?
Every gig I've ever been to, either festival, concert venue, local band in the pub, has their own gear such as amps, instruments mics etc.
They don't just appear on their own with nowt but the shirt on their back and hope for the best.
Those items weren't the issue. Alex clearly stated that it was on-site production and technical issues which caused the problem. You can't blame her for that as well.
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:00
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Those items weren't the issue. Alex clearly stated that it was on-site production and technical issues which caused the problem. You can't blame her for that as well.

Which could actually mean that the first stage was 'too small' for her liking and the second one was 'too high' even though the promoter of that stage had graciously re-arranged the artists to accommodate her, as claimed by the alleged Pride insider. Such a vague statement, especially in light of the 'accusations' here (and note they have offered Alex a full right to reply). Certainly if these 'damaging' allegations aren't true the first thing she or her mystery management should do is exercise their right to reply on there and blow them out of the water. That article was written 3 days ago, it's not like they won't have read it...

http://www.gscene.com/local/Alexandra_who.shtml
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:10
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A good artist should be able to adapt to any situation. I suggest again that, from a bigger picture, a lot of these stories/problems are cropping up. It's one drama after another. Is she blameless all of the time?

Live events are prone to problems/faults. You can't just pull out and withdraw everytime there's an issue with something. I could understand if she was a massive artist, but her profile has taken a bashing based on recent record sales. It's like she hasn't adjusted to the fact she's not a top ten pop artist anymore. If she's not careful she will go into 'Norma Desmond' territory.
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:11
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Those items weren't the issue. Alex clearly stated that it was on-site production and technical issues which caused the problem. You can't blame her for that as well.
According to people who worked at the event there were no technical issues at all and she had her own set up waiting for her that she brought herself.
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:17
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Those items weren't the issue. Alex clearly stated that it was on-site production and technical issues which caused the problem. You can't blame her for that as well.
Right, so if she had all her own gear to enable her to perform then she would just be turning up and that gear would get wired into the on site sound systems.
She would have had those silly in ear things so she could hear herself (she's not going to have someone elses stuck in her lugs is she?) so then she'd have brought equipment to enable her to hear herself.
So that's that covered then isn't it?
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:19
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At the end of the day in any other job you would find a way around it. If you're a writer and your computer breaks, you get out the pen and paper.

If the sound equipment wasn't up to scratch, she should have gotten on to the stage with her guitarist and given the fans an acoustic set. Most other artists would do that. There's no excuse to just not perform at all.
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:35
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Who's lapping it up? Madge is getting so much bad press these day's she's making Jedward look popular, Minaj is proving such an unpopular choice with viewers as a potential idol judge people are getting very nervous, and yes, Leona's so bland you could enter a room she was in and never know she was there.
No one's saying she shouldn't be a character, just do her job, and be mindful of the industry today and how quickly one can get a name for oneself. After all, another sieries of that awful show is underway, so there'll be even more people for her to compete for air time and column inches with. These are not nessecarily the column inches she wants.
Ok bad choice ofi
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Old 04-09-2012, 13:38
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Who's lapping it up? Madge is getting so much bad press these day's she's making Jedward look popular, Minaj is proving such an unpopular choice with viewers as a potential idol judge people are getting very nervous, and yes, Leona's so bland you could enter a room she was in and never know she was there.
No one's saying she shouldn't be a character, just do her job, and be mindful of the industry today and how quickly one can get a name for oneself. After all, another sieries of that awful show is underway, so there'll be even more people for her to compete for air time and column inches with. These are not nessecarily the column inches she wants.
Ok bad choice of examples as only americans (in general it seems) and their respective fanbases love their attitude. Maybe I should of said someone like Mariah who is known for those character traits and quite popular for it.
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