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The 'guy from Pop Idol' has a name,it's Will Young . He's also had 6 consecutive platinum/multi platinum selling albums, but I assume you've conveniently forgotten that.
and he is shite and dosn't deserve to be even considered for such an award |
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Every choice is a realistic choice to the poster of it, don't be so opinionated.
will young is not a realistic choice for anyone with a modicum of musical taste, neither is gary barlow, compared to the likes of damon alburn, noel gallacher, lennon and mcartney, jagger, richards, bowie, clapton, knofler and hundreds of other uk males and band members they are musical excrement |
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Joe McElderry for me.
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will young is not a realistic choice for anyone with a modicum of musical taste, neither is gary barlow, compared to the likes of damon alburn, noel gallacher, lennon and mcartney, jagger, richards, bowie, clapton, knofler and hundreds of other uk males and band members they are musical excrement
Well, after a very interesting and mostly intelligent discussion on this thread, it once again, all comes down to people's personal opinions .I certainly wouldn't say that Will Young and Gary Barlow are equivilent to 'musical excrement' and it lowers the tone of the discussion a little ![]() I am a great fan of Will Young and admire him for his voice, his songwriting, and his acting on TV, Film and Theatre (just seen him in "Cabaret") He certainly spreads his talent and abilities far and wide, and although there are some wonderful male singers, Will Young is my choice
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My favourite male artist from the UK is George Michael. At his best his voice was amazing and I love loads of his songs.
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and he is shite and dosn't deserve to be even considered for such an award
. If Will Young wasn't a talent he wouldn't be the successful artist he is today-over 10 years on from the 'win' with excellent reviews for his 5th studio album and gushing critics for his role in Cabaret at the present time.,Everyone has an opinion but you should respect others are often different to yours.
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You're just being obnoxious. opinionated and quite blatantly provocative
. If Will Young wasn't a talent he wouldn't be the successful artist he is today-over 10 years on from the 'win' with excellent reviews for his 5th studio album and gushing critics for his role in Cabaret at the present time.,Everyone has an opinion but you should respect others are often different to yours. ![]() Perhaps you should respect his/her opinion that they believe Will Young is sh*te?
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its silly of the take that fans to assume that robbie signalled the change in take that`s sound on progress. especially, if they bought into the documentary that hinted that gary was the `creative force`.:yawn: i don't think robbie could win to be honest, had he continued to shy away from the group, then the fans would have moaned about that too.:sleep:
they may get away with the negative press once again, who knows? they cant stand still though and not evolve musically. westlife delivered the same style for most of their output and eventually the sales tailed off. Definitely, they do need to evolve. I do wonder if they'll call it a day soon and go out while on top. Westlife was like the same song over, and over, and over again! |
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Well, after a very interesting and mostly intelligent discussion on this thread, it once again, all comes down to people's personal opinions
.I certainly wouldn't say that Will Young and Gary Barlow are equivilent to 'musical excrement' and it lowers the tone of the discussion a little ![]() I am a great fan of Will Young and admire him for his voice, his songwriting, and his acting on TV, Film and Theatre (just seen him in "Cabaret") He certainly spreads his talent and abilities far and wide, and although there are some wonderful male singers, Will Young is my choice ![]() |
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The anonymity of the internet and the pleasure some people get from becoming cyberbullies saddens me.
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Intelligent discussion IS describing Young, Barlow, Williams et al as shite. A welcome change from the fawning arse-lickery that's been going on so far.
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will young is not a realistic choice for anyone with a modicum of musical taste, neither is gary barlow, compared to the likes of damon alburn, noel gallacher, lennon and mcartney, jagger, richards, bowie, clapton, knofler and hundreds of other uk males and band members they are musical excrement
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Imo Thom Yorke definitely
Or David Bowie or Robert Smith
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the album was certified platinum after `a million love songs` left the top 40 and the next single was already getting airplay. the album wasn't even in the top 10 during that singles chart run, so i doubt that single give the album its biggest boost. the album peaked a week after `could it be magic` peaked on the chart and had its longest top 10 run during that singles chart life.
i will read the rest and comment on that too. i just had to address this first. ![]() to date both songs are fan favourites and almost always included on tour. |
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so you are saying that the majority of that album was co-written then? besides, like you said yourself, john shanks contributed with guitar cords and actually that is central to the medley in my opinion.
regarding patience: shanks came up with the opening chords. yes, i agree, they are very signature to patience, but they're hardly the core of the song. it's very much barlow's brainchild. |
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where have you got the week chart run data from? if this is true then i apologise, as i have read elsewhere quite a few times that it was a million love songs that kick started the album into selling in numbers which previous singles hadn't touched on, and i was sure that that included breaking into the top 10 with good sales. re: CIBM, i've already agreed with you that it was the peak.
to date both songs are fan favourites and almost always included on tour. |
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he is inconsistent though. if he was that good, then he would have delivered better material for other artists. not forgetting his solo material, which really highlighted his inconsistencies in my honest opinion. the take that songs were well produced and made the best of his compositions. however, the well seemed to run completely dry once he left the band and despite working with some of the best people in the business the results were less than impressive.
i think if he did decide to give away more songs that he knew were good quality rather than holding them back then he would be respected more. in saying that, i don't think he cares. he gets awards left right and centre and has a LOT of industry respect. i may be wrong on this, but i think he has a (highly lucrative) songwriting deal with sony that requires him to fulfil a certain quota....but it doesn't require all the songs he delivers to them to be surefire no.1 hits. therefore he can quite happily get away with fobbing off the more mediocre stuff while keeping the big sellers for take that, and still get big bucks from either end. (on his solo writing, i don't think it's fair to judge based on that alone. even he hated his own material. he knew what he was releasing was crap. it was the record lable who forced him down that line because they wanted to move him to america, so they constantly told him to change things and the style of the songs, and squeezed in as many covers/other writers as they could (they were limited on this by a claus stating the album had to be at least 70% penned by gary). in take that, he was left alone to just get on with it without any interferrance, or any confidence issues. i would say the songs he wrote for take that in the 90s are much more representative of his abilities as a writer than his solo material ever was) |
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this is a website i sometimes use and i have done a `take that` search for you to look at. `a million love songs` was the first single released after the album came out and the singles beforehand were released on the build up to the album release.
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no that's not what i mean, i knew that already. i mean the correlation between the album sales and single release. you said that the album wasn't even in the top 10 during a million love song's release. it's that bit that i'm wondering about, as i've read before that a million love songs was the song that first gave the album serious sales.
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Olly Murs
Olly Murs is the most talented performer, go to YouTube and watch his cover version of Broken Stones, the man is very very talented, Gary Barlow is the best songwriter and has been for many years.
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agree wholeheartedly with this - his inconsistancies are his biggest weakness.
the only thing i will say is that howard did have previous co-writing credits, including co-writing a song for another pop star in the nineties. so i don't think it was fair to suggest that he had `no previous writing experience at all`. |
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Olly Murs is the most talented performer, go to YouTube and watch his cover version of Broken Stones, the man is very very talented, Gary Barlow is the best songwriter and has been for many years.
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I love waking up to a good laugh in the morning! ^^^^
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Congratulations, you have just invoked the DS equivalent of Godwin's Law.
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. If Will Young wasn't a talent he wouldn't be the successful artist he is today-over 10 years on from the 'win' with excellent reviews for his 5th studio album and gushing critics for his role in Cabaret at the present time.,
