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New Humax Freesat+ HDR 1000S review
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grahamlthompson
28-10-2012
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“At a guess the front panel display is blanked in standby mode as a result of having power-saving mode turned on?”

No need to guess .

The HDR-1000S has two sby modes.

Normal (approx 3W) displays the clock in sby. Low Power (no clock - 0.5W). The latter is required to meet the latest EEC standby power regulations. Anyone using the latter won't have noticed the clock display problems (it doesn't affect the epg or recording from it)
Edward Drexel
29-10-2012
Received my 1TB box on Saturday and have been playing around with it at the weekend.

Firstly, I too lost all my planned recordings on Saturday night. Whether this was due to the clock change, or something else (I did tune in all the non-Freesat channels on Saturday night, could this have done it?) I don't know, but it was rather annoying.

Other thoughts - the cardboard box it arrived in is rather flimsy and had got squashed in transit. Luckily no damage to the contents but I wouldn't be surprised if a few do get damaged this way.

I still find its appearance rather unappealing, especially the plasticky silver trim/buttons - but I can live with it.

The mains lead - a two core affair with a standard figure of 8 socket on one end was very short - less than 1m - and the sticker on it is wrong, saying 'this appliance must be earthed' and recommending a 13 Amp fuse - and indeed a 13 Amp fuse is fitted, which I think is unsuitable for the very thin cable. I replaced mine with a 3 Amp straight away.

It's supplied with a network cable and an HDMI lead, but no satellite patch leads (which I would have found more useful).

My first attempts at recording were not auspicious - on Saturday I set it to record the F1 qualifying, and the Saturday afternoon play on Radio 4. It recorded the F1, but also the entire following programme (rugby). The radio recording failed with no explanation.

There's a bug in the channel guide, whereby the day and date you're looking at (normally displayed near the top of the screen) will occasionally disappear, leaving you all at sea. I haven't hit on the exact way to repeat this behaviour, but when I do I'll post it here.

Non-freesat mode seems very basic. I couldn't even figure out how to bring up a channel list once it was tuned, so if you want to switch from, say, C4 to BBC1, you really need to know the channel numbers, or be prepared to press the P+ button a lot of times! Also if you press one of the arrow keys in this mode, the screen darkens (as though some text is about to appear) but nothing else happens. I don't think there are any recording facilities at all in this mode.

I tried the "Humax" menu (an odd name for a menu option) to view some photos and videos from my PC, but found it very slow in pulling data across. But this could have been due to problems elsewhere in my network, so I won't blame the box until I've experimented further.

I'm looking forward to future features (ftp server, file manager, DLNA server etc.) and hope they're not too long in coming.

Other future enhancements that would be nice - perhaps a 'channel view' on the EPG, as I used to have on my Thomson DHD4000, where you choose one channel and scroll up and down through its listings. This way each programme name has the full width of the screen rather than a small sliver on the main EPG.

Perhaps it would also be nice if Humax marketed a single-tuner sat box that could act as a controller for the main box - so in a second room, one could program the HDR1000S remotely, watch programmes and so on, just as if it were in the same room. I know the programmes on the box will be available by DLNA eventually, but I was thinking of something a bit more sophisticated than that.
grahamlthompson
29-10-2012
Tuning non-freesat does delete your recording schedules.

Your epg problem isn't a bug. The i button toggles the epg between displaying the time info and the programme synopses.
REPASSAC
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Edward Drexel:
“ ........................
I tried the "Humax" menu (an odd name for a menu option) to view some photos and videos from my PC, but found it very slow in pulling data across. But this could have been due to problems elsewhere in my network, so I won't blame the box until I've experimented further.”

I may be wrong but I think this is Humax's menu are area of responsibality (whereas everything else is designed by freesat)

Originally Posted by Edward Drexel:
“I'm looking forward to future features (ftp server, file manager, DLNA server etc.) and hope they're not too long in coming. ”

I am not expecting to see a ftp server or a file manager.
Originally Posted by Edward Drexel:
“Other future enhancements that would be nice - perhaps a 'channel view' on the EPG, as I used to have on my Thomson DHD4000, where you choose one channel and scroll up and down through its listings. This way each programme name has the full width of the screen rather than a small sliver on the main EPG..”

What about it freesat?
pingu123456
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Tuning non-freesat does delete your recording schedules.”

wow, along with the inability to record at all in non freesat mode, these are proper annoyances!

At least no one has thought about rolling out or extending these new 'services' to the older HDR along with access to 4oD etc.
Or am I giving Humax ideas - watch out for future firmware updates.

Pingu
grahamlthompson
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by pingu123456:
“wow, along with the inability to record at all in non freesat mode, these are proper annoyances!

At least no one has thought about rolling out or extending these new 'services' to the older HDR along with access to 4oD etc.
Or am I giving Humax ideas - watch out for future firmware updates.

Pingu”

The original Foxsat-hdr firmware had the same problem (deleting recording schedules). A firmware update fixed it, no idea if the same will apply to the new box.
markdyer72
29-10-2012
is there a way of adding non freesat channels to the freesat epg, such as say adding pick tv to the freesat guide
REPASSAC
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by markdyer72:
“is there a way of adding non freesat channels to the freesat epg, such as say adding pick tv to the freesat guide”

Only by paying freesat a very large amount of money each year.
grahamlthompson
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by markdyer72:
“is there a way of adding non freesat channels to the freesat epg, such as say adding pick tv to the freesat guide”

No, only on a Foxsat-hdr running the custom firmware. The epg is tightly locked down by Freesat presumably so all G2 boxes will look the same.
EDIT

Repassac types faster than I do
markdyer72
29-10-2012
ok thanks for the replies was just a thought
mihaid
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by pingu123456:
“wow, along with the inability to record at all in non freesat mode, these are proper annoyances!
Pingu”

I am sitting here with a strange mixture of sadness/glee as the bugs/missing features are revealed by the early adopters. I wonder if the innards of the box would fit a normal rectangular shaped box and I think that if at all possible Humax should prioritise this rather than the white funny shape wifi box. If any competitors out there read this, I'd say stick with rectangular, don't let your designers go crazy.
If anyone is considering buying this, don't. Just let Humax sort the box out first, then go ahead and buy. You will have saved yourself being treated as guinea pigs and wasted a great part of your warranty.
If this box will become as good as the terrestrial current Humax box you will have purchased a very good thing indeed. But until then it's not, You have been warned.
have a look here, a few posts will give you the picture.http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/we-the-undersigned.102/
-GONZO-
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by mihaid:
“I am sitting here with a strange mixture of sadness/glee as the bugs/missing features are revealed by the early adopters. I wonder if the innards of the box would fit a normal rectangular shaped box and I think that if at all possible Humax should prioritise this rather than the white funny shape wifi box. If any competitors out there read this, I'd say stick with rectangular, don't let your designers go crazy.
If anyone is considering buying this, don't. Just let Humax sort the box out first, then go ahead and buy. You will have saved yourself being treated as guinea pigs and wasted a great part of your warranty.
If this box will become as good as the terrestrial current Humax box you will have purchased a very good thing indeed. But until then it's not, You have been warned.
have a look here, a few posts will give you the picture.http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/we-the-undersigned.102/”

So how's providing a link for the Fox-T2(freeview) with the most recent post being from 2011 give a picture of anything to do with the Humax HDR 1000S?
grahamlthompson
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by -GONZO-:
“So how's providing a link for the Fox-T2(freeview) with the most recent post being from 2011 give a picture of anything to do with the Humax HDR 1000S? ”

Agreed I found this post distinctly odd. The HDR-1000S works fine with its primary job of being a G2 twin tuner pvr. There are a few issues with some of the extras - from other posts the media client capability may have a few bugs. I played back a HD .ts file on Saturday night with no problems though and I can also stream unencrypted content direct from a Foxsat-hdr.

Quite how a problem with non-freesat has any relevance to a freeview box is beyond me

Going to fit a 2TB drive like Repassac already has.
REPASSAC
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by mihaid:
“I am sitting here with a strange mixture of sadness/glee as the bugs/missing features are revealed by the early adopters. I wonder if the innards of the box would fit a normal rectangular shaped box and I think that if at all possible Humax should prioritise this rather than the white funny shape wifi box. If any competitors out there read this, I'd say stick with rectangular, don't let your designers go crazy.
If anyone is considering buying this, don't. Just let Humax sort the box out first, then go ahead and buy. You will have saved yourself being treated as guinea pigs and wasted a great part of your warranty.
If this box will become as good as the terrestrial current Humax box you will have purchased a very good thing indeed. But until then it's not, You have been warned.
have a look here, a few posts will give you the picture.http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/we-the-undersigned.102/”

Well I like the shape of the box. Perhaps you would like to aviod all forms of rounded corners as used on many phone cases and screens and other devices.

As for missing features, freesat said that two of the on-demand channels were to follow.The only other absent feature that has been mentioned as to come by Humax is the media server - (a description which could cover anything that serves some media)

The lack of functionality in freesat's design is intential I think.
mihaid
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
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Quite how a problem with non-freesat has any relevance to a freeview box is beyond me
.”

Ok, the relevance is: the most recent post in Jan2011 was almost a year since Humax launched that box and 4 months after it was supposed to launch Portal as advertised on the packing. Just as you've been told,and see below Repassac, that you'll get 4od and 5od shortly. Is that not relevant? we are talking about a Humax product even if it's a different range.

Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“Well I like the shape of the box. Perhaps you would like to aviod all forms of rounded corners as used on many phone cases and screens and other devices.

As for missing features, freesat said that two of the on-demand channels were to follow.The only other absent feature that has been mentioned as to come by Humax is the media server - (a description which could cover anything that serves some media)

The lack of functionality in freesat's design is intential I think.”

iphone, galaxy S2, HTC oneX, most of these have rounded corners which I don't mind at all. But they also have basically a rectangular shape, like a matchbox.I am sure that others here have expressed the distaste for this shape.
REPASSAC
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by mihaid:
“iphone, galaxy S2, HTC oneX, most of these have rounded corners which I don't mind at all. But they also have basically a rectangular shape, like a matchbox.I am sure that others here have expressed the distaste for this shape.”

Just had another look - it is basically a rectangular shape with nice rounded corners.

I am not a fan of the case design of the Echostar HDS-600RS however, but I am sure some are.
-GONZO-
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by mihaid:
“I am sure that others here have expressed the distaste for this shape.”

I don't know about anyone else, but I tend to watch what's on the TV screen rather than looking at the set top box.
I really don't understand this fascination of what the casing should look like.
Edward Drexel
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by -GONZO-:
“I don't know about anyone else, but I tend to watch what's on the TV screen rather than looking at the set top box.
I really don't understand this fascination of what the casing should look like.”

Well looks aren't that important - if they were I wouldn't have bought it!

But this is something that will usually be displayed with some prominence in one's living room for several years, where one normally tries to avoid anything that's too plasticky and cheap in appearance.

Personally I just wish they'd gone for a boring box shape with a metal case. In fact it doesn't look quite as bad 'in the flesh' as in pictures, although that's probably because it seems a bit smaller than I expected.

In my case I've tucked it away in a rack so it's not too visible. But of all my various bits of hifi and video kit, appearance-wise this is by far the naffest-looking.... I wonder if the casual browser in John Lewis will be thinking "£300 for that... they must be joking!"
mihaid
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“Just had another look - it is basically a rectangular shape with nice rounded corners.

I am not a fan of the case design of the Echostar HDS-600RS however, but I am sure some are.”

Yeah, just like Michelangelo's David started life as a rectangular block of marble.
The funny thing is that I do have that design you mentioned but it's not by choice. It's because it was the only option, slingbox. Like others have said I live with it because of its functions. I know that sometimes we try sthing different, progress right? But there's plenty of options in the rectangular format. Remember the brick mobile phones? Well, we tried clam shells, etc, but we still arrived at the iphone.

Originally Posted by -GONZO-:
“I don't know about anyone else, but I tend to watch what's on the TV screen rather than looking at the set top box.
I really don't understand this fascination of what the casing should look like.”

In that case why not leave it as a normal box, why shape it weirdly?
Originally Posted by Edward Drexel:
“Well looks aren't that important - if they were I wouldn't have bought it!

that... they must be joking!"”

And probably I will buy it also, because of what it does, just not now, in a year's time it may be as it should be now.
Based on previous experience with Humax, it may end up the best product there is, just not now.
I think I hoped for a similar shaped entry as the Fox T2. Sleekness by the truck load and the big round button? genius.
Gareth_Phillips
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Tuning non-freesat does delete your recording”

That explains a lot! How rubbish.

Just noticed sky news is FTA, why on earth is it not on freesat ?
grahamlthompson
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by Gareth_Phillips:
“That explains a lot! How rubbish.

Just noticed sky news is FTA, why on earth is it not on freesat ?”

Simple, Sky won't pay the Freesat epg costs.
Gareth_Phillips
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Simple, Sky won't pay the Freesat epg costs. ”

Would it be more then they pay for freeview EPG ?
Eston Bleu
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“The deletes are queued. No more messages ”

W00t!
Edward Drexel
29-10-2012
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Your epg problem isn't a bug. The i button toggles the epg between displaying the time info and the programme synopses.”

Having played around a bit more, I think you are quite right, my mistake!

A couple of other things - it's annoying how, when using the numeric keypad in 'text mode', the "1" button is used for spaces - every other 'phone or remote control I've used has always allocated the "0" button for spaces.....

It would be nice if it remembered recently used DLNA servers - that way, it could, as with my Sony DLNA clients, send a 'wake up' signal to ones that are offline.

As others have said, the scrolly text on the front panel does tend to distract if the box is anywhere near one's eyeline - particularly when the text flashes back on after scrolling off the panel. Ideally there'd be some user configuration setting - scroll/no scroll/dim/display off, or similar.....

I've finally worked out what the design is based on - type "roasting tray" into Google images
grahamlthompson
30-10-2012
Originally Posted by Gareth_Phillips:
“Would it be more then they pay for freeview EPG ?”

No but Sky aren't exactly likely to support a satellite service they may see as a competitor. Look at the spat between Virgin and Sky over subsciption content. You need to complain to Sky, Freesat have no power over independent broadcasters and what platforms they put their content on.
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