I was under the impression that it did not actually say no signal as some posters here said so.

That is definitely misleading no more ifs or buts.

What does it say on the bottom line ? It didn't confuse me in anyway. It's perfectly obvious the box has two cables, all you have to do is try and record two channels from different bands. If you do so and then bring up diagnostics you get the actual readings from the transponder the tuners are currently using.

For me it's a total non issue

There's plenty of genuine problems without worrying about the trivia.

OK , I am a more than average instructed person, sic, and if I saw that I would think, yes I have two cables connected, I am expecting that. But it seems that one LNB is not working no signal, I better be investigating.
I think it was poor form from some in this forum to suggest that it did not actually say 'no signal'.
I would not chance that in a million years to set two recordings and see what happens, oh it seems that it works anyway. If I set something to record it is because I want it not that I hope it will record.
Anyway I think that's all I'm going to say about this, it's been too long already.

By the way no one answered my question: have you got 4od and 5od yet?

No, but freesat said work was well advanced.
When the HDR-1000S launched it was (and still is) slated as "Catch up with BBC iPlayer and ITV Player, plus look forward to 4OD and Demand5, expected in late 2012."

Hi, does anybody know how the HDR would work at night on standby and in record mode ?

( I am thinking about putting one in the bedroom to replace my cable box... but concerned whether it is dark when in standby and whether it lights up when recording).

Thanks..

Deag

I see. Thanks.

I do a lot of user interfaces (not on STBs) and that is very confusing, I don't have the HRD 1000S but have read most of this thread.

I read that as Tuner 1 is working as it clearly has a signal, and tuner 2 is not working as it has no signal.

Yes it does say "Freesat box connected with 2 cables" but so what if two cables are "connected", the info above shows one with no signal!
I would think something is not working right somewhere and start to investigate.

If you mean the HDR-1000s it's very quiet and has a tiny very dim rec icon on the display and a dim red light on the power button if you use power saving sby . It's hard to even notice it unless you get very close. Using normal sby adds a clock on the front display.

... and until 4OD is available Humax won't be getting any of my money. I doubt if this will surface before 2013 now -- vendors generally don't release firmware updates or add-ins (in my experience) just before a holiday period like Christmas and the New Year. I'm more than happy to be proved wrong though!


Clem

freesat also says they and Humax are planning to have an update available before Christmas - No details as yet as to what they hope to include..

Thanks for the reply. That aspect is important to me because I struggle to go back to sleep if woken.

Hi all, just got my Humax box ...delighted , However need to as Im in N Ireland and tuned into NI network ,I need to know if I can add additional channel freq such as ITV+1, RTE etc.

Also is it a simple system to add to like the Sky + system in having the transponder, freq etc and manually enter and save....

+1 IQ1

Graham this is not a point worthy of debate (yes "two cables connected" but are we just measuring resistance here on the voltage sent up or an actual incoming correct polarity signal from LNB2???).

If you don't agree that this is a black and white issue then post me £40 and I'll agree with you that it was me being a bit of a thick punter and taking things at menu value!!!!

Two cables found indicates that during setup each tuner was able to independently control a seperate lnb. One cable indicates tuner 2 has no control of the lnb, it can only access channels sharing the same frequency and polarisation as tuner 1 is using.

This should work (if it does not there is something wrong)

Tune to BBC-HD and press record, Tune to BBC1-HD and start a second recording. Try tuning to a selection of 3rd channels (try ITV1-HD and CH4-HD) and pressing pause. This means that you are now recording 3 channels at the same time. This is the capability you paid £40.00 to get.

If it doesn't work then need to find out why. It's not related in any way to the issue under discussion.

You can add channels to non-freesat mode. Note though that doing so at least currently deletes your Freesat recording schedules and you can't record in non-freesat either.

You could reset and use an English postcode and use customise channels to move your local BBC regions to the lower channel numbers.

I had that before I spent £40 There was nothing wrong with the cable/second tuner input despite it saying 'no signal'. This is a wood/ trees moment my friend!!!

You spent £40.00 on fixing a non-existant problem without even trying the box to see if it worked

Unbelievable Had you asked on here or any of the other forums (My Humax, Hummy.TV or AV forums for instance you would have been told the answer.

What would yoy have thougth if it showed you 100% quality on Tuner 1 and 70% on Tuner 2? (It's about what I would see)

Your attitude to something so straightforward is absurd. There should be no need to research and consult a web forum before reading a simple signal input display! Other devices like SKY+ have been very straight forward on this b simple issue and report back accurately..

Yes I often found that on other boxes I had (that would simply display both input signal stats concurrently) that despite a similar path there would be differences in signal quality & strength. Being digital it never made much difference unless it got really low.

Cheers

No research required to actually try it out. When I installed it noted no signal from second tuner, also noted two cables found message. First thing I tried was a simple check to see if there was in fact two working tuners. I found there was and forgot about it. Repassac later suggested the notion that tuner 2 may not be powered for power saving reasons, sure enough starting a recording forces a signal indication giving credence to this theory. There must now be some hundreds of these now in use, only you seem to have a major problem.

I don't know if you have noticed this Graham but it uses the tuners differently from the Foxsat - I have seen only tuner 2 in use at times, rather than just tuner 1.

Surely this situation could happen on any 2 tuner recorder:

Scenario:

1) Both tuners in use recording programmes!
2) User is watching recorded programme or watching programme on Tuner 2!
3) Recording on Tuner 1 finishes!
4) Tuner 2 is now the only tuner in use!

Other Scenarios are available!


Graham.

Coming round to that idea, presumably it's in the logic that allocates tuners to the recording schedule.

Indeed but the HDR-1000s seems afaik to be the only one that apparently powers down unused tuners so the only one that can display what tuners are actually in use using diagnostics. On the others you wouldn't know other than logic of course.

Graham