Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“For Microsoft
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“For Microsoft
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Well I already have MS and Apple stock so it's a win win for me then.
Nokia to announce Lumia 920 with wireless charging today.
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Originally Posted by daclick:
“No removable battery, no memory card if not then I would have seriously considered getting one”
“No removable battery, no memory card if not then I would have seriously considered getting one”
The 820 has both.
Looks like the end of Nokia at least in the citys eyes share price slump poor o/s only a handfull of apps,
Nokia cant survive android rules.
Nokia cant survive android rules.
Originally Posted by microbar:
“Looks like the end of Nokia at least in the citys eyes share price slump poor o/s only a handfull of apps,
Nokia cant survive android rules.”
“Looks like the end of Nokia at least in the citys eyes share price slump poor o/s only a handfull of apps,
Nokia cant survive android rules.”
Do you think the share price decreased because it's using WP8? Really? We've known about that for many months and so would shareholders.
More likely it's because there were no details given on pricing/availability which means iPhone 5 will be unveiled/released/in millions of people's hands before a single WP8 Lumia is bought.
Originally Posted by mtj:
“Do you think the share price decreased because it's using WP8? Really? We've known about that for many months and so would shareholders.
More likely it's because there were no details given on pricing/availability which means iPhone 5 will be unveiled/released/in millions of people's hands before a single WP8 Lumia is bought.”
“Do you think the share price decreased because it's using WP8? Really? We've known about that for many months and so would shareholders.
More likely it's because there were no details given on pricing/availability which means iPhone 5 will be unveiled/released/in millions of people's hands before a single WP8 Lumia is bought.”
I think it is because there is little prospect of these phones challenging the market leaders simply nothing about them that will persuade people to change from android or iphone to w8.
Nokia really had to set a new high and unfortunately they have failed. There are some nice features to these phones but nothing that will produce the quantity of sales to inspire market confidence.
I think this phone looks very nice. I personally hope it's a success for Nokia and WP8.
Out of interest, will apps made for the Surface easily cross-compile to WP8?
Out of interest, will apps made for the Surface easily cross-compile to WP8?
It's got me very tempted to get one I had a Omnia 7 when it first came out and loved it even with a severe lack of software in the marketplace.
Like others have said the share prices fell due to lack of a firm release date and pricing so the sooner Nokia can announce this the better.
Did anyone else also see the LTE bands? This should mean when EE go LTE we can use it on their 'new' network.
Like others have said the share prices fell due to lack of a firm release date and pricing so the sooner Nokia can announce this the better.
Did anyone else also see the LTE bands? This should mean when EE go LTE we can use it on their 'new' network.
Originally Posted by psionic:
“I think this phone looks very nice. I personally hope it's a success for Nokia and WP8.
Out of interest, will apps made for the Surface easily cross-compile to WP8?”
“I think this phone looks very nice. I personally hope it's a success for Nokia and WP8.
Out of interest, will apps made for the Surface easily cross-compile to WP8?”
You can't just re-compile with the same code. Some of the APIs on one platform don't exist on the other and vice versa. Also an app designed for a widescreen tablet will need redesigning to use on a portrait and smaller screened phone.
That said, you can re-use a significant portion of the code between the two platforms but they are not identical.
Certain apps have been demo'ed where only a couple of lines of code was needed between the two but that's not going to be true in the majority of cases.
Originally Posted by microbar:
“Looks like the end of Nokia at least in the citys eyes share price slump poor o/s only a handfull of apps,
Nokia cant survive android rules.”
“Looks like the end of Nokia at least in the citys eyes share price slump poor o/s only a handfull of apps,
Nokia cant survive android rules.”
'android rules' - what are you?
do you think the city only just found out that nokia had hooked up with microsoft?
if there was anything that upset the city it's the like of a release date and pricing.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“I think it is because there is little prospect of these phones challenging the market leaders simply nothing about them that will persuade people to change from android or iphone to w8.
Nokia really had to set a new high and unfortunately they have failed. There are some nice features to these phones but nothing that will produce the quantity of sales to inspire market confidence.”
“I think it is because there is little prospect of these phones challenging the market leaders simply nothing about them that will persuade people to change from android or iphone to w8.
Nokia really had to set a new high and unfortunately they have failed. There are some nice features to these phones but nothing that will produce the quantity of sales to inspire market confidence.”
i find this analysis very odd. it's like in the other thread 'I Phone 5 Disappointment' these things can only be developed with early 21st century technology. there is little chance of a light sabre or tractor beam.
the phone has specs as good as any and a better camera. i don't see what more they could do.
i picked you up on this yesterday and you've said it again. is there any spec or anything that they could have done within the confines of earthly technology that would not have left you disappointed?
Originally Posted by swordman:
“I think it is because there is little prospect of these phones challenging the market leaders simply nothing about them that will persuade people to change from android or iphone to w8.
Nokia really had to set a new high and unfortunately they have failed. There are some nice features to these phones but nothing that will produce the quantity of sales to inspire market confidence.”
“I think it is because there is little prospect of these phones challenging the market leaders simply nothing about them that will persuade people to change from android or iphone to w8.
Nokia really had to set a new high and unfortunately they have failed. There are some nice features to these phones but nothing that will produce the quantity of sales to inspire market confidence.”
I think the way any VOIP app can integrate into the phone in various places is a quite compelling feature.
Let's not forget the main reveal of WP8 is still to come. Let's also remember the effects of Windows 8 on the marketplace are highly uncertain until it has been out about a year.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“simply nothing about them that will persuade people to change from android or iphone to w8.”
“simply nothing about them that will persuade people to change from android or iphone to w8.”
Other then the massive plus point that it is *not* an Android or iPhone which many of use will not touch with a barge pole for obvious, well-rehearsed arguments. If we want an up to date hardware phone then W8 at last will offer us a reasonable alternative to the niche, business orientated RIM range.
Originally Posted by TheBigM:
“You can't just re-compile with the same code. Some of the APIs on one platform don't exist on the other and vice versa. Also an app designed for a widescreen tablet will need redesigning to use on a portrait and smaller screened phone.
That said, you can re-use a significant portion of the code between the two platforms but they are not identical.
Certain apps have been demo'ed where only a couple of lines of code was needed between the two but that's not going to be true in the majority of cases.”
“You can't just re-compile with the same code. Some of the APIs on one platform don't exist on the other and vice versa. Also an app designed for a widescreen tablet will need redesigning to use on a portrait and smaller screened phone.
That said, you can re-use a significant portion of the code between the two platforms but they are not identical.
Certain apps have been demo'ed where only a couple of lines of code was needed between the two but that's not going to be true in the majority of cases.”
thanks for the info. I was just thinking along the lines that that reusability of code between WP8 and W8(RT) would be a significant boost to app availability. At least for the tiles.
Originally Posted by Faust:
“Sheep, peer pressure, can't think for themselves, the list goes on.
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“Sheep, peer pressure, can't think for themselves, the list goes on.
”
Sadly next weeks New iPhone thread will be much longer than this thread. No doubt Android fans will be slagging it and iPhone fans will be masturbating themselfs to oblivion that its the "first phone" invented with a big screen plus they will have to trott off to the Apple shop to buy new cables for it too.
I think it looks really nice but that's not surprising, Nokia make some great hardware.
If I could get all my apps and games for Windows Phone 8 I would consider this but that's not the case.
If I could get all my apps and games for Windows Phone 8 I would consider this but that's not the case.
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Sadly next weeks New iPhone thread will be much longer than this thread. No doubt Android fans will be slagging it and iPhone fans will be masturbating themselfs to oblivion that its the "first phone" invented with a big screen plus they will have to trott off to the Apple shop to buy new cables for it too.”
“Sadly next weeks New iPhone thread will be much longer than this thread. No doubt Android fans will be slagging it and iPhone fans will be masturbating themselfs to oblivion that its the "first phone" invented with a big screen plus they will have to trott off to the Apple shop to buy new cables for it too.”
Will a cable not be provided in the box?
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“'android rules' - what are you?
do you think the city only just found out that nokia had hooked up with microsoft?
if there was anything that upset the city it's the like of a release date and pricing.
i find this analysis very odd. it's like in the other thread 'I Phone 5 Disappointment' these things can only be developed with early 21st century technology. there is little chance of a light sabre or tractor beam.
the phone has specs as good as any and a better camera. i don't see what more they could do.
i picked you up on this yesterday and you've said it again. is there any spec or anything that they could have done within the confines of earthly technology that would not have left you disappointed?”
“'android rules' - what are you?
do you think the city only just found out that nokia had hooked up with microsoft?
if there was anything that upset the city it's the like of a release date and pricing.
i find this analysis very odd. it's like in the other thread 'I Phone 5 Disappointment' these things can only be developed with early 21st century technology. there is little chance of a light sabre or tractor beam.
the phone has specs as good as any and a better camera. i don't see what more they could do.
i picked you up on this yesterday and you've said it again. is there any spec or anything that they could have done within the confines of earthly technology that would not have left you disappointed?”
Well you can find it odd if you so wish but that is not going to change my opinion, the markets opinion or enable Nokia to sell any more handsets is it. If you think the phone specs are as good as any phone out there then I am afraid you are deluded and fooling yourself. As I have said repeatedly to you why as a punter am i going to choose this phone over a GS3 or iphone tell me?
Share prices fell 17% on the unveiling of these phones don't you get that! As I said it looks an ok phone but for a company in Nokia's position ok is not going to cut it. Asking me what they could do is not going to change what they have done and you obviously consider this a market leading phone, however in my opinion the majority of consumers will not.
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Other then the massive plus point that it is *not* an Android or iPhone which many of use will not touch with a barge pole for obvious, well-rehearsed arguments. If we want an up to date hardware phone then W8 at last will offer us a reasonable alternative to the niche, business orientated RIM range.”
“Other then the massive plus point that it is *not* an Android or iPhone which many of use will not touch with a barge pole for obvious, well-rehearsed arguments. If we want an up to date hardware phone then W8 at last will offer us a reasonable alternative to the niche, business orientated RIM range.”
Sounds about right
Originally Posted by swordman:
“Well you can find it odd if you so wish but that is not going to change my opinion, the markets opinion or enable Nokia to sell any more handsets is it. If you think the phone specs are as good as any phone out there then I am afraid you are deluded and fooling yourself. As I have said repeatedly to you why as a punter am i going to choose this phone over a GS3 or iphone tell me?
Share prices fell 17% on the unveiling of these phones don't you get that! As I said it looks an ok phone but for a company in Nokia's position ok is not going to cut it. Asking me what they could do is not going to change what they have done and you obviously consider this a market leading phone, however in my opinion the majority of consumers will not.”
“Well you can find it odd if you so wish but that is not going to change my opinion, the markets opinion or enable Nokia to sell any more handsets is it. If you think the phone specs are as good as any phone out there then I am afraid you are deluded and fooling yourself. As I have said repeatedly to you why as a punter am i going to choose this phone over a GS3 or iphone tell me?
Share prices fell 17% on the unveiling of these phones don't you get that! As I said it looks an ok phone but for a company in Nokia's position ok is not going to cut it. Asking me what they could do is not going to change what they have done and you obviously consider this a market leading phone, however in my opinion the majority of consumers will not.”
you think the share price fell because of the specs of the phone even though they were leaked days before hand? seriously?
the share price rose 67% from mid July as news of the phones began to leak. that was already priced in. the drop is caused by the lack of pricing information, dates, and carrier partners.
i am simply saying that your analysis is that you are disappointed with the reviled specs. i'm saying that i don't see that there is anything that they could have done that would have caused you to reach a different conclusion.
Originally Posted by Gormond:
“Will a cable not be provided in the box?”
“Will a cable not be provided in the box?”
Of course it will. But its handy to have a spare. Plus they will have to buy new docking stations too im so excited for them!!!!
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Of course it will. But its handy to have a spare. Plus they will have to buy new docking stations too im so excited for them!!!!
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“Of course it will. But its handy to have a spare. Plus they will have to buy new docking stations too im so excited for them!!!!
”
the new docs thing is interesting. it's not just a matter of the cable. the old connector had analogue outputs. the new one doesn't.
i'm sure someone will come out with a digital to analogue converter that fits. But it will involve apple licensing things to them. so it wont be cheap.
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“the new docs thing is interesting. it's not just a matter of the cable. the old connector had analogue outputs. the new one doesn't.
i'm sure someone will come out with a digital to analogue converter that fits. But it will involve apple licensing things to them. so it wont be cheap.”
“the new docs thing is interesting. it's not just a matter of the cable. the old connector had analogue outputs. the new one doesn't.
i'm sure someone will come out with a digital to analogue converter that fits. But it will involve apple licensing things to them. so it wont be cheap.”
The docking station will simply use the 3.5 jack plug at the bottom for analogue output
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“you think the share price fell because of the specs of the phone even though they were leaked days before hand? seriously?
the share price rose 67% from mid July as news of the phones began to leak. that was already priced in. the drop is caused by the lack of pricing information, dates, and carrier partners.
i am simply saying that your analysis is that you are disappointed with the reviled specs. i'm saying that i don't see that there is anything that they could have done that would have caused you to reach a different conclusion.”
“you think the share price fell because of the specs of the phone even though they were leaked days before hand? seriously?
the share price rose 67% from mid July as news of the phones began to leak. that was already priced in. the drop is caused by the lack of pricing information, dates, and carrier partners.
i am simply saying that your analysis is that you are disappointed with the reviled specs. i'm saying that i don't see that there is anything that they could have done that would have caused you to reach a different conclusion.”
U Tell me why the share price fell then?
Some of the features leaked not all and the reality is other than the leaked elements there wanting else, no pureview to speak of really, no large screen for top end phone, no sd card support, no removable battery, wireless charging not sure about have to see, no massive internal headline speed.
What was revealed such as pureview lite, wireless charging, use screen with gloves etc was average.
So you tell me as I said why the share price fell then?
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“The docking station will simply use the 3.5 jack plug at the bottom for analogue output”
“The docking station will simply use the 3.5 jack plug at the bottom for analogue output
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interestingly i've just read that apple will be the only ones selling the adapters.
fo shizzle a lot of people will use the analogue output, for as long as the iPhone still has it. but you will lose the functionality that a lot of docks have to navigate the music.
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